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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, Wait, they have a rebuttal!  
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Mitt Romney posted:If you look at the facts ISIS is in very bad shape and we should stay the course. Yeah this. Hop into the ME thread and ask Fade5 for the tweets about AQ mocking the gently caress out of ISIS commanders for wishing they never tweeted for the US to bring on the air strikes because they weren't scared of them. The Iron Rose posted:I'm not advocating we send in ground troops by any means. But let's be realistic: we're playing Whack A Mole here and not much more. Not really, we're running pretty much the same play we ran in Libya where we're the airforce for the local moderates, only the Kurds are actually way better than the anit-Qaddafi forces in Libya.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Wait, they have a rebuttal! Notable RINO Donald Trump.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:41
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Wait, they have a rebuttal! I love how desperately they're trying to disown the man who has plurality support among Republicans. Just call him a liberal enough times and nobody will notice the most far-right 30% of Republican voters adore him
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Dec 8, 2015 17:43
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foobardog posted:Sadly, my fear is that it'll be in the sense of "DEMOCRAT Reid uses Trump's beliefs to attack THE REPUBLICAN PARTY! (That's you!)".
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Dec 8, 2015 17:45
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FAUXTON posted:A lump of coal, as in she fired 30k people and couldn't handle the pressure required to really shine. 
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Dec 8, 2015 17:47
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Oh sure, people jump on Trump for saying 'insane' things, but praise Obama when he says truly insane things like 'climate change is real' . 
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Dec 8, 2015 17:52
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I'm really not looking forward to the possibility of Christmas politics chat when I visit my parents in SC.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Yeah this. Let me clarify. When I say we're playing Whack a Mole, I'm referring to the fact that we're doing nothing about Syria (and Vienna is a joke), and it's the enduring presence of the Assad regime that has spawned ISIL, Al-Nusra and her allies, the Saudi-funded Islamic Front, and so on and so forth. The fact that the regime in power gives jihadists almost as great of a recruitment pitch as OIF. Sure, JDAMs will pound ISIL into the ground eventually, the tide's been turning ever since Ayn al-Arab (Kobani) last year. Just like at Fade5 or another Kurdish subject matter expert to see the results of that. But the other unpleasant fact that we have to deal with is that we're not actually striking at the source of the problem - Syria. Now, don't get me wrong, if no one in Langley or Foggy Bottom has a even remotely workable option for Syria no one in the entire USG does. I certainly don't. But the fact of the matter is that despite all the legitimate good we're doing bombing the poo poo outta ISIL, we're striking at symptoms. Which is fine. But again, let's not pretend we're addressing the root of the problem when we're just treating the symptoms of an underlying disease.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Wait, they have a rebuttal! I guess the term "liberal" has finally finished its long transition to "descriptor for thing I don't like". Honey, this roast was excellent, but if I can be honest... the carrots were a little liberal.
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The Iron Rose posted:Which is fine. But again, let's not pretend we're addressing the root of the problem when we're just treating the symptoms of an underlying disease. Yup
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The root of the problem doesn't have a military solution.
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zoux posted:The root of the problem doesn't have a military solution. Time to build schools in Raqqa.
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THE BOMBINATRIX posted:Who? He's bald as a cue ball, oddly tattooed, big and tall and scraggly beard, mayor of a poo poo town with probably a 50% poverty rate, and he's attained something of a very small cult of personality because he says exactly what he thinks and acts like about the farthest thing possible from a politician, and he's actually remarkably not a complete idiot. Sort of a local Robin Hood figure. Google a picture of him and see if you think he looks like a guy with an MA from Harvard in public policy. Edit: holy poo poo, he's running for Toomey's Senate seat. loving spectacular. mdemone fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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THE BOMBINATRIX posted:Who? Senate candidate from Pennsylvania who I am unsure has been polled yet? 
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zoux posted:The root of the problem doesn't have a military solution. Yeah this. I agree that Assad needs to be gone before there can be a meaningful peace but doing that militarily is impossible because of all the player making Syria a dick waving proxy war, the US included. The ME won't be stabilized unless global warming gets fixed (it wont) and Israel stops being assholes (they won't) so treating the symptoms is pretty much the only option.
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The problem though is the inconsistency of saying "we're doing nothing!" "Obama doesn't have a clue!" then when pressed saying "Well what we're doing isn't working!" or "no one knows what to do!" Those aren't the same things.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:06
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Bip Roberts posted:Time to build schools in Raqqa. That you think it's a joke shows how far we are from a solution and how long this is going to go on.
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Bip Roberts posted:Time to build schools in Raqqa. Yes, this is legitimately what we should do. We should be subtly support moderate clerics while targeting extremists. We should be investing in infrastructure, healthcare, education while bombing as many members of extremist or terrorist groups as possible. zoux posted:The root of the problem doesn't have a military solution. Exactly. We're not going to be way to bomb radical Islam away. What we must do is provide a credible alternative that supports USG interests and secures a more stable future.
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Pig’s Head Found Outside Philadelphia Mosquequote:According to the report, the animal's head may have been thrown out the window of a vehicle, with surveillance footage showing a red pickup slowing down in front of the mosque Sunday night. The truck circled back around the block, and at that point an object could be seen being tossed out of the passenger window and rolling along the sidewalk. At least they didn't shoot the place up or burn it down.
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The Iron Rose posted:Yes, this is legitimately what we should do. I agree that a youtube video where a bunch of moderate clerics get beheaded is my kind of thing.
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A Winner is Jew posted:The ME won't be stabilized unless global warming gets fixed (it wont) and Israel stops being assholes (they won't) so treating the symptoms is pretty much the only option. Actually, it may be easier to stabilize the Middle East if we don't stop Global Climate Change http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/persian-gulf-temperatures-may-be-at-the-edge-of-human-tolerance-in-30-years/ 
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Trabisnikof posted:Actually, it may be easier to stabilize the Middle East if we don't stop Global Climate Change http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/11/persian-gulf-temperatures-may-be-at-the-edge-of-human-tolerance-in-30-years/ If Europe thinks the refugee crisis is bad now...
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MariusLecter posted:Pig’s Head Found Outside Philadelphia Mosque how far has this country fallen when muslims are beheading the police outside of their satan temples...
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zoux posted:The root of the problem doesn't have a military solution. Their power, money, and influence comes from the land they hold. Take their land.
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Nonsense posted:Senate candidate from Pennsylvania who I am unsure has been polled yet? I didn't realize he was challenging McGinty for the Democratic nomination. John Fetterman in the U.S. Senate! Guy looks like nothing so much as a bouncer at a biker bar and refuses to wear anything but a black T-shirt. It's like the entire geographic region of SW Pennsylvania somehow gained human form.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Their power, money, and influence comes from the land they hold. loving Kurds suck.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Their power, money, and influence comes from the land they hold. Well, people used to argue Sicily should join the USA so Syria isn't too far away....I do think we're overdue for a 51st star.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Their power, money, and influence comes from the land they hold. 
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Their power, money, and influence comes from the land they hold. I can only treat this as sarcastic, because any other way would be 
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/12/trump-getting-stronger-in-nc-islamophobia-helps-fuel-that-strength.html Fully half of polled Rep voters in NC support a Muslim database. 42% believe Muslims cheered in New Jersey on 9/11. 35% want to shut down all mosques. 32% believe Islam should be illegal.
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MariusLecter posted:Pig’s Head Found Outside Philadelphia Mosque *somewhere across the sea David Cameron's pulse has quickened*
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usbombshell posted:John Fetterman chimes in: lol
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CommieGIR posted:I can only treat this as sarcastic, because any other way would be Yea, he's a troll. Congratulations.
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Dec 8, 2015 18:22
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HootTheOwl posted:Yea, he's a troll. Congratulations. The troll rule: If they are trolling, its not to much of a jump to say they actually believe it.
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Remember how I said that what Hillary meant by "disrupting" terrorism was voluntary self-censorship of users? Well, that may yet happen, but Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) has revived another equally bad proposal that was killed earlier this year: compel social media outlets to report suspected terrorists to the Feds. In other news, the lecturer who said that Yale students should have room "to be a little bit obnoxious, a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive" in their choice of Halloween costume has resigned. And in Trump news, he cannot criticize Japanese internment "because [he] would have had to be there" to issue judgment.
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Hulk Krogan posted:People aren't worried about the ban actually happening so much as they are worried about the mobs of scared, angry white people being told that it's perfectly okay to bathe uninhibited in their bigotry and hatred against a minority group, and that their Muslim neighbors are an existential threat. Neighbors is a bit of a stretch considering the housing practices of the modern American city.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:And in Trump news, he cannot criticize Japanese internment "because [he] would have had to be there" to issue judgment. We can only hope he'll feel compelled to travel to Syria to judge whether ISIS's treatment of prisoners is inhumane.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:
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