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What's a good, cheap, newbie track bike? Something easy to work on. Friends have suggested something carbed from early 2000.
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Dec 7, 2015 13:40
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Don't you already have an SV650? 
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Dec 7, 2015 14:03
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Yeah, but I'd prefer to keep it for the street.
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Dec 7, 2015 14:09
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M42 posted:What's a good, cheap, newbie track bike? Something easy to work on. Friends have suggested something carbed from early 2000. I bought a 2003 ZX6R-636 for my first (and current) track bike. You can grab these and similar year CBRs for around 3k, at least where I am (Washington state). Depends on what cheap means to you. It's been pretty good for me and I am nowhere near out riding it in its stock form, but now that I want to get into racing I wish I'd went and got a prepped bike to save me time and money. A good place to look is local race series forums. Up here it's WMRRA and OMRRA, tons of people selling well prepped race bikes.
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Dec 7, 2015 16:12
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Another SV is probably going to be a popular recommendation. It's a solid platform for a trackbike, yet it's not going to scare you away from using the throttle like a supersport might. From what I've read on here and elsewhere, becoming proficient on an SV and then moving on (if you even end up wanting to) tends to be a better route for growth than starting on a 600 inline 4.
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Dec 7, 2015 16:21
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Second gen Ninja 250s make excellent cheap track bikes.
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Dec 7, 2015 16:35
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I'd say it depends on what you like. Buy an ex-race SV or one with emulators + rear shock and learn to ride. If you want an i4 then you buy an 03-05 R6. If you want a 600 but know you're going to end up wanting to make more power later on down the line you buy an 06+ GSXR750. If you want a 600 but something different you buy an 09+ Daytona 675. If you want a modded out SV you buy a Ducati 749 or 999. Here's the annoying part about getting into track riding and buying a dedicated track bike - you're going to spend a lot of money. A lot. I think doing it cheaply I was spending at least $400 for one trackday. On the expensive end... when I rode T-Hill with z3n it ended up costing me over a grand. Or when I blew the motor on the 675 it was a $2000 day. Or when I tumbled the GSXR750... Oh, and the bug never leaves you. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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Dec 7, 2015 17:22
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Yeah I would think another SV would be good, and ideally you might find one that's already been set up as a track bike, cause it'll cost way less that what's put into it.
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Dec 7, 2015 17:34
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Plus SPARES wooooo e: Too bad you're on the wrong-coast http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488543 $3200 quote:Up for sale is the THREE time class winning Suzuki SV650. Bike was ridden by Jason Catching to lap records at all AFM tracks. Comes with TWF GSXR cartridges in front forks,Penske double clicker shock,M4 full ti exhaust, Ohlins steering damper & GSXR bodywork painted in classic Catching Competition red/black scheme. Bike needs a battery and your ability to twist the F-ing throttle. Extra rear rim included in price. Possible delivery depending on location. Bike can be viewed on Catching Competion Facebook page for pics, or pm for pics. Percentage to BARF upon sale, thanks for looking. 
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Dec 7, 2015 17:35
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Thanks for the suggestions guys! Especially that list, blackmk4. I don't really know what the hell I want, so having multiple options helps. It's kind of a pipe dream at the moment, but having the bug will probably spur me into getting a better paying job if nothing else...
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Dec 7, 2015 18:06
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Tactical Lesbian posted:I'm trying to give your post in the other thread a good response but I'm real busy trying to convince my drunk friend IRL that guns are not evil Gun and motorcycle cultures are equally terrible, and yet, here we are. This honestly seems reasonable given the constraints you list, however, real dirtbikes are ~80 or so pounds lighter, and much nicer to flog around singletrack stuff. The lighter weight makes them much more comfortable to slide, but if you're fully committed to buying new, the CRF250L isn't a bad choice. If it were me, I'd be looking for a CRF150R for play, a WR250F for doing trails and stuff, with a plate on it. Depending on where you are, a plate might be super easy to come by. The problem that you run into is that street optimized and dirt optimized are 2 very different things, and splitting that difference is forever living with the worst of both worlds. I had no idea how people jumped bikes when I was jumping my DRZ, because the thing flew like a Caddy. My first ride on the WR250F was an experience, that ~80 pounds, better suspension, better frame, etc, all adds up to a huge difference. BlackMK4 posted:I'd say it depends on what you like. All of these things pretty much true. Also bonus that the SV saves you on tires. And you need a truck.
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Dec 8, 2015 04:21
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Z3n posted:And you need a truck. Aw yeeaahh. M42 goan be up in here like, "CA recommend me a truck". The answer is a Tacoma to save you time. Or you can get a full size van and hang a hammock inside to sleep in between track sessions. Bonus is it doubles as a house for when you want to pursue your traveling hobo lifestyle.
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Dec 8, 2015 04:37
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I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9 Hemi with 40k miles on it. It's been at Dodge for the last three weeks - I took it there because I have a warranty on the loving thing that covers ERRAYTHING. Long story short, it's still there because it wasn't the headgasket that they replaced, or the head, or the cyl 1 injector, or the ECU, or the wiring harness, or... A+ would buy warranty again. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 04:41
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BlackMK4 posted:I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 5.9 Hemi with 40k miles on it. It's been at Dodge for the last three weeks - I took it there because I have a warranty on the loving thing that covers ERRAYTHING. loving hell, pin the tail on the diagnostic donkey much?  Z3n posted:And you need a truck. Or a bus. 
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Dec 8, 2015 04:50
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Beta cross trainer? http://www.betamotor.com/en/enduro/bikes/xtrainer-2016
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Dec 8, 2015 04:54
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Z3n posted:Gun and motorcycle cultures are equally terrible, and yet, here we are. I'm not sure if I'd be okay with doing jumps, that's just asking for compound fractures.  I think I'll be happy with the CRF250L. It's probably a decent bike to teach my bf how to ride, too. Interestingly enough, the CRF250L is just as heavy as the DRZ-400S, but according to reviews by Motorcycle magazine and /Drive, it carries the weight more nimbly.
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Dec 8, 2015 07:32
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Z3n posted:
No you don't. Unless you drive a Fiesta a single bike trailer can be towed by almost any car and everything else can be thrown in the back of the car. But then to do it right you need a Transit with a sleeping bag in the back
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Dec 8, 2015 13:50
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Tactical Lesbian posted:I'm not sure if I'd be okay with doing jumps, that's just asking for compound fractures. Stop ignoring my awesome suggestions and get a tw200.
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Dec 8, 2015 16:27
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Coredump posted:The answer is a Tacoma to save you time Everybody knows 2.5 long box Ranger, best Ranger.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:16
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Foxtrot_13 posted:No you don't. Unless you drive a Fiesta a single bike trailer can be towed by almost any car and everything else can be thrown in the back of the car. I don't generally recommend off-road riding without a buddy, personally. Maybe I'm more risk averse than most, but you have a nasty crash in the middle of nowhere with no cell reception and it'll be a long time before they find you.
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Dec 8, 2015 17:59
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builds character posted:Stop ignoring my awesome suggestions and get a tw200. Sorry I keep ignoring your ~awesome posts~. One of my good friends has one at his farm, I've ridden one around a little dirt course, for a couple hours once. The impression I got was that sure, it was fun, but I don't think it would go more than like.. 50mph on the street; everyone goes like 70-80 on the two lanes here, especially {bro,hick}trucks. I don't doubt the capability off-road for my current skills, but that lack of power was a already concern with the 250. (re: 250 vs 400) plus the Honda is wayyyyyy prettier
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Dec 8, 2015 18:05
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If I ever move back to a place with snow, I'm buying a TW200 and sticking studded tires on it and commuting by motorcycle 365 days a year.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:19
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Sagebrush posted:If I ever move back to a place with snow, I'm buying a TW200 and sticking studded tires on it and commuting by motorcycle 365 days a year. I wonder if the newer ones are FI, because that sounds fun. While I would be a bit miserable, my commute is like 1.5 miles.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:45
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clutchpuck posted:Everybody knows 2.5 long box Ranger, best Ranger.   She met her untimely demise a few years back. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 20:48
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in its natural habitat Best (and relatively inexpensive) motorcycle accessory.
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Dec 8, 2015 20:55
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Sagebrush posted:If I ever move back to a place with snow, I'm buying a TW200 and sticking studded tires on it and commuting by motorcycle 365 days a year. I could see those fatass tires being very useful in the snow.
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Dec 8, 2015 21:05
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 Got it a couple months ago  And as of last night I'm officially 2fast2furious E: in my defense, I found that PCM programmer under my seat, and those PJs are very comfortable/were free. Marxalot fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Dec 8, 2015 |
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Dec 8, 2015 21:21
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Marxalot posted:
Those things are actually incredibly useful, especially if you actually do any work to it.. Just be careful, you can only flash the ECU like 100 times or something before it shits the bed. clutchpuck posted:Best (and relatively inexpensive) motorcycle accessory. You're goddamn right it is. Any vehicle you can load a Goldwing into with a 6' board is okay in my book.
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Dec 8, 2015 21:25
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I'm thinking about getting back into riding after a four or five year hiatus. When I was a kid I used to ride flat track and a bit of motorcross on lil 2 strokes, eventually I did road bikes, starting on a ninja 250 and then got onto a DR650 for touring with my dad (the 250 was great for around town but couldn't handle the other stuff we were doing). I sold the DR and gave up riding for a while because I found I just didn't have the time to seek out the trails that were so much fun on the DR. I'm thinking about getting another road bike for riding around town and maybe cruising the mountain roads around here, and I'm looking at either a street triple, a 690 duke or maybe an FZ-8n. Do you guys think any of these are too much bike given my previous experience and the fact that I've been on break for a few years?
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Dec 9, 2015 00:26
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Were you an accident waiting to happen before, or did you have a head on your shoulders? If it's the latter just take it easy until you get your groove back but neither of those bikes are deathwishes. Could always re-take the rider course, or do the intermediate one.
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Dec 9, 2015 00:31
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clutchpuck posted:Were you an accident waiting to happen before, or did you have a head on your shoulders? If it's the latter just take it easy until you get your groove back but neither of those bikes are deathwishes. Could always re-take the rider course, or do the intermediate one. I'm generally a conservative guy, I can't recall any major "oh poo poo" moments except for the first time I took the 250 out in the pissing rain and locked it up doing an emergency stop (for a red light, but none the less). I didn't topple or anything but was pretty scary at the time.
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Dec 9, 2015 00:50
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Those things are actually incredibly useful, especially if you actually do any work to it.. Just be careful, you can only flash the ECU like 100 times or something before it shits the bed. It idles better and the stupid 92mph* governor is gone. I'll see if the shitpile automatic transmission works better tomorrow.
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Dec 9, 2015 03:53
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Tactical Lesbian posted:Sorry I keep ignoring your ~awesome posts~. One of my good friends has one at his farm, I've ridden one around a little dirt course, for a couple hours once. The impression I got was that sure, it was fun, but I don't think it would go more than like.. 50mph on the street; everyone goes like 70-80 on the two lanes here, especially {bro,hick}trucks. I don't doubt the capability off-road for my current skills, but that lack of power was a already concern with the 250. (re: 250 vs 400) I just want to live the dream of buying a tw200 vicariously through someone.  Tactical Lesbian posted:I could see those fatass tires being very useful in the snow. What about a used husky FE350S? I'm assuming financing is the issue with new vs. used, not something else and I'd think you could still get financing if you bought used through a dealership. Actually, looking at the local husqvarna dealership you should at least ask them about this. http://www.mungenast.com/used/KTM/2010-KTM-530+XC-W+Sixdays-fef0989d0a0e0ae827064cd4734473cf.htm See if they'll let you test ride it!
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Dec 9, 2015 04:34
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builds character posted:I'm assuming financing is the issue with new vs. used, not something else and I'd think you could still get financing if you bought used through a dealership. Holy poo poo. I love you! I'm definitely calling them. Went into test ride the CRF today but didn't buy it today sooo. Will check that out!! Thanks.
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Dec 9, 2015 05:11
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Lol that thing is a monster beyond compare, just FYI!
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Dec 9, 2015 05:35
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Z3n posted:Lol that thing is a monster beyond compare, just FYI! nooooo poo poo. Please becareful if you get that thing Tactical Lesbian.
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Dec 9, 2015 06:03
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cursedshitbox posted:nooooo poo poo. Please becareful if you get that thing Tactical Lesbian. 
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Dec 9, 2015 07:00
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Hey dudes - Background: I am doing some research on picking up a bike, because I can only park one car at my unit (boo-hoo) and my fiancé needs to use it as of January. I am looking at a bike like the Kawasaki Z300/Ninja 300/CBR300/CBR500 (you get the idea), to pick up new. I've ridden dirt bikes since I was about 13 (and have had my motorbike licence since I was around 19) so I am not unfamiliar with riding a bike and the basics of riding on the road (don't do it very often). Question: I basically want to know - (a) what would be an approximate fuel average (I guess I could google this, but IMO manufacturers claims mean little) (b) how often would one service a bike like any of the above (I'm only familiar with dirtbikes, which are a whole different ballgame) need to be serviced? (c) How long would they run for? TIA!
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Dec 9, 2015 12:32
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Tactical Lesbian posted:Holy poo poo. I love you! I'm definitely calling them. Went into test ride the CRF today but didn't buy it today sooo. Will check that out!! Thanks. Haha, seriously, this is a really bad idea.
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Guni posted:Hey dudes - a) Find your potential model on Fuelly and take an average of the results there. Note that driving style also affects this abit. My 600cc transalp has an average on that site at 47mpg, but as I drive it, it sits at 52mpg. b) just google "bike model" service interval. most road bikes are atleast 7500 miles for normal service, with valve adjustment or similar bigger items either at 7500/12000/20000. The more horses pr cc/#valves/#cylinders usually either shortens the service interval or makes it a lot more complicated to do yourself. If it's a new bike you'll probably want a shop to do the services anyway to keep the warranty hassle free. c) It really depends on the model, the maturity of the engine design and proper servicing. Usually the more high strung the engine is with hp pr cc it will last shorter before it has something mayor has to be done to keep it going. With older engines/models that has been on the market for some years the "fun" failures has already been found.
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