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The Iron Rose posted:Fine by me. Yes because court orders are never overly broad or hilariously easy to get when they shouldn't be (no knock warrants).
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zoux posted:Greta Van Susteren tweeted that "WARRIOR FOR BABIES" stuff and said it proved he was motivated to attack PP specifically. Her followers disagree. A lot of them seem to think that his attorney is coaching him to yell "protect the babies" in court because that's obviously a great legal strategy.
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Didn't he also yell that during the terrors of attack.
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Naga Warlord posted:On second thought: First of his name
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A Winner is Jew posted:Trump will probably nominate like Vince McMahon, or just Vince himself. I'm gonna have to vote Trump if getting the New Day on the court is a possibility.
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euphronius posted:Didn't he also yell that during the terrors of attack. While being taken into police custody after surrendering, if I remember right.
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Joementum posted:A lot of them seem to think that his attorney is coaching him to yell "protect the babies" in court because that's obviously a great legal strategy. "Implicate yourself in premeditated terrorism."
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Joementum posted:A lot of them seem to think that his attorney is coaching him to yell "protect the babies" in court because that's obviously a great legal strategy. Considering the probable demographics of the jury, it might be.
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A Winner is Jew posted:An all pro-wrestler court would actually rule. 
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So it wouldn't help for an insanity defense at all? (Genuine question - non-US citizen here.)
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Shakugan posted:Clearly many of you don't really know what research is. You know that there are computer science professors, right? Well, surprise! They conduct computer science research! They are "research scientists" in every sense of the word. Yes, a STEM undergrad doesn't automatically make someone an expert or a research scientist. But there are research scientists in every field, including computer science. When you're trying to look down on people who misrepresent themselves as experts, it doesn't exactly help your argument when you're demonstrating you don't really know what a research scientist is either. Okay, i'll concede to you on broad terms. But my point is that the vast majority of Computer Scientists are in fact engineers, and IME that is what CS degrees focus on teaching.
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A Supreme Court we can all respect 
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pumpinglemma posted:So it wouldn't help for an insanity defense at all? (Genuine question - non-US citizen here.) There's this impression, I think due to TV/movies, that it's fairly easy to get yourself declared mentally unfit in order to get away with a crime.
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So are they admitting that the pro life movement is crazy.
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Changing my vote to this provided Peter Dinklage sits on the bench in character.
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Yeah, its incredibly hard for that to happen, even for people obviously insane. And the ones that do go to facilities that are pretty much prisons until they are ruled sane, which they then promptly get funneled into real prison if I recall correctly. EDIT: quoting zoux
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I always wonder what the end-game is for the the insanity plea defense. They realize it's not a get-out-of-jail free card right? It just means their eventual prison will have straps on the beds.
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zoux posted:"Implicate yourself in premeditated terrorism."
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euphronius posted:It avoids the DP. many men do whatever it takes to avoid the DP
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A Winner is Jew posted:Changing my vote to this provided Peter Dinklage sits on the bench in character.
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Joementum posted:A lot of them seem to think that his attorney is coaching him to yell "protect the babies" in court because that's obviously a great legal strategy. What are you guys talking about?
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Just popping in to tell everyone they should watch the new documentary on Netflix about the '68 Vidal/Buckley debates and the political landscape surrounding the GOP/Democratic conventions. It is fantastic (and depressing as hell considering this all happened 50 years ago).
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mcmagic posted:That is going to happen if any republican president gets to replace Ginsberg or Breyer. Dang it. I was enumerating the Supreme Court justices to some coworker's yesterday (one of them is applying for citizenship) and thought that Souter was the SCOTUS Associate Justice no one remembers, not Breyer Of course this just proves that Breyer really is one of the most unremarkable of SCOTUS Justices in the past few decades...
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AlternateNu posted:Just popping in to tell everyone they should watch the new documentary on Netflix about the '68 Vidal/Buckley debates and the political landscape surrounding the GOP/Democratic conventions. It is fantastic (and depressing as hell considering this all happened 50 years ago). Isn't that the one where classy conservative intellectual Buckley calls Vidal a queer and tells him to shut up or he'll bash his fag mouth in (or something similar)?
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Dang it. I was enumerating the Supreme Court justices to some coworker's yesterday (one of them is applying for citizenship) and thought that Souter was the SCOTUS Associate Justice no one remembers, not Breyer Breyer isn't bad, but he has to compete against badasses like the notorious RBG and Sotomayor. Kagan to I guess.
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DemeaninDemon posted:What are you guys talking about?
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Isn't that the one where classy conservative intellectual Buckley calls Vidal a queer and tells him to shut up or he'll bash his fag mouth in (or something similar)? quote:On a night of riots at the Democratic convention in Chicago, Buckley and Vidal had their own climactic on-air clash. Vidal called Buckley a “crypto-Nazi,” prompting a reaction that still stuns. You're close.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:The Planned Parenthood shooter whose motive we just don't know! Who what now?
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Shageletic posted:Yeah, its incredibly hard for that to happen, even for people obviously insane. And the ones that do go to facilities that are pretty much prisons until they are ruled sane, which they then promptly get funneled into real prison if I recall correctly. You will not get sent to prison for actions that a court has determined were committed while you were insane or otherwise incapable of understanding you actions in a way not primarily caused by drugs or alcohol. Also, pleading guilty by virtue of "insanity," falls under half a dozen different pleas, ranging from "insanity" to "mental defect." The case of a schizophrenic man who kills his neighbor because he was convinced the neighbor was trying to poison him is an entirely different situation than someone with a moderate cognitive disability assaulting someone over a dispute; neither is extremely likely to get jail time, but the process is very different for each person. Fox Ironic fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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AlternateNu posted:Just popping in to tell everyone they should watch the new documentary on Netflix about the '68 Vidal/Buckley debates and the political landscape surrounding the GOP/Democratic conventions. It is fantastic (and depressing as hell considering this all happened 50 years ago). For those too lazy to google as I just did, I believe it's called Best of Enemies.
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Man I wish we knew what motivated that chap to shoot up that planned parenthood clinic  Shame about these lone wolf mentally unstable individuals.
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I am very disappointed and upset with President Obama, Chuck Schumer, and other Dems who are trying to pull this whole "No-fly list = No guns for you." It completely undermines the gun control movement by trying to tie it to this list that, as far as I know, how no good oversight or probably even constitutionality.
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Mulva posted:No he basically said anyone who supports affirmative action is concurring with the majority in Plessy v Ferguson, and called Justic Sotomayor directly. Ah, yeah, like I said, it's been a while. Also, Jesus Christ.
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Party Plane Jones posted:You're close. Yup
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This guy is really something.quote:During the hearing, the judge issued a gag order for law enforcement and the parties involved. As the judge and attorneys were discussing who was included in the gag order, Dear interrupted. quote:The judge spoke to Dear and advised him of his right to a preliminary hearing within 35 days.
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I'm glad this happened so close to San Bernardino so that the hypocrisy of the right is even more blantant and the fact that most Americans see no contradiction that much more infuriating.
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blue squares posted:I am very disappointed and upset with President Obama, Chuck Schumer, and other Dems who are trying to pull this whole "No-fly list = No guns for you." It completely undermines the gun control movement by trying to tie it to this list that, as far as I know, how no good oversight or probably even constitutionality. Obama's proposal for it provides for an process to appeal the decision. 
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I've never seen pictures of those two men before, but the instant they showed Buckley's face it was completely obvious that was him. He just has a face that fits everything I know about him.
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