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rkajdi posted:Yeah, saying we should lower ourselves to the level of listening to their racist drivel is the same as camping them. Can you give us some hot insights about the coming white genocide while you're at it? I'm not the person in this thread coming for the white genocide, mate. Anyways, Trump's up to 35% in polls which poll-takers stress were done before all of these Muslim comments. also Bernie's numbers haven't gotten any better in two months but once black people hear about him I'm sure he'll jump to the lead oh god oh god it's not happening ever is it http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-donald-trump-top-ted-cruz-second-hillary-clinton-over-bernie-sanders/
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Bernie "don't talk about ISIS" sanders? No I don't think that one is happening.
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Joementum posted:Wrap it up, Israelures. So, do you think Trump cancelled because Netanyahu hurt his feelings by publicly repudiating his position on Muslims? Or do you think Israeli security services told Netanyahu to deny Trump entry into Israel because his presence would be a serious public security risk, and they just allowed Trump to make the announcement as a courtesy?
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I would like to call for white genocide, thank you.
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I think most people ITT don't really care about the white rural vote because it's small and rapidly decreasing (seriously, check out the age demographics of rural inhabitants).
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:
Allow me to further comment: lol Jeb. Of course, Trump doesn't need to spend money with entire networks devoted to 24 hour coverage of his every word.
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An R^2 of .04, nice. The most shocking thing from the chart though is that Graham had 2.7 million to campaign with in the first place. Where in the hell did all that go?
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Gravel Gravy posted:The most shocking thing from the chart though is that Graham had 2.7 million to campaign with in the first place. Where in the hell did all that go? Alcohol isn't free.
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The Diane Rehm Show today is going to be about trump and the GOP party's internal divisions. Could be interesting. WAMU will have it at 10 eastern
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Quote of the morning, “Donald, it was a movie. It’s not like this in real life, but how would you know?” ~ Harrison Ford, on Donald Trump's praise for Air Force One.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, “Donald, it was a movie. It’s not like this in real life, but how would you know?” ~ Harrison Ford, on Donald Trump's praise for Air Force One. lol
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To go back to dear chat there is a difference between competence to stand trial and the insanity plea.
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zoux posted:CBS News poll has Trump at 35% nationally his highest yet. Meanwhile, The Onion accurately describes every single person in this thread.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:
Jeb looks like he's being hammered into the ground by a yooge ball of money and is pretending to be pleased with it. Sounds about accurate.
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Add Jonathan Chait to the list of journalists that are still pretending like Trump isn't leading the polls. There is a certain type of columnist that is just hanging on the to the presumption that this Trump thing is just a temporary fad despite of everything.
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DeusExMachinima posted:You cannot put a hold on someone without there being some kind of (very) rare confusion in the database if they are someone with a similar name who has actually received a court order of some kind that would bar them from buying a gun. It's not a discretionary thing. The hold is time limited (usually to 72 hrs) and can't be thrown down because some unnaccountable mistake of a sink of taxpayer dollars thought "lol they might do something bad someday." Like, I get that is what you keep insisting, and I have read the FBI website. But the FBI website does not encompass the totality of NICS checks and is not relevant to additional state law. For instance South Carolina allows delay/deny based on "membership of subversive group" but appears to leave interpretation and powers broad. It also allows a hold to be placed on someone "known to abuse alcohol" or who has failed a drug test in the past. Various states have different criteria, and much of it comes down to "judge or law enforcement issues a hold" without the need for criminal proceedings first. Another instance is that the VA could place a [url= http://www.cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=NewsReleases&ContentRecord_id=006952cf-d1ea-476d-8dcd-f4cca5cbdaba]mental hold without judicial review, prompting the need for legislation[/url]. These are very real laws that factually exist, and I am struggling to find a legal opinion that is substantive supporting the broad view of due process as a pre-requisite for placing the original hold rather than as part of the hold/denial appeals process. Personally I agree that if there is a legal view of the 2nd Amendment as an individual right under Heller, then there must be substantive due process in place in order to prevent an individual from exercising that right. Based on my lay person observation it seems that there are already violations in this regard and that the prevailing legal doctrine allows for this to occur, and that the no fly list does not necessarily deviate from this already existing understanding. When searching for legal opinions, I generally only find those that require pathway for appeal, and not court proceedings prior. Thus, I am asking for legal precedent for this particular interpretation of due process as it applies to NICS background checks.
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Someone in the news had come up with the idea that the establishment is basically waiting until it's too late for Trump to run third party, and once he's committed to the GOP primary then they can turn up the proverbial heat. I can't imagine they have the ability to shut him down at any point, though. He's scraping off all of their obscuring dicta and shouting the meat of their ideology at the top of his lungs. He's tapping directly into what the GOP has been flirting with for 40 years but was too afraid to embrace because it repulses normal people. They're hosed.
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zoux posted:Add Jonathan Chait to the list of journalists that are still pretending like Trump isn't leading the polls. There is a certain type of columnist that is just hanging on the to the presumption that this Trump thing is just a temporary fad despite of everything. Chait will do anything to pretend that his ilk of South Park Liberal isn't responsible for creating the environment of Trump Ascendant, including denying it exists. May his hot takes keep him warm in the winter of Trump Year 01, after the gregorian calendar is forgotten in nuclear fire.
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zoux posted:CBS News poll has Trump at 35% nationally his highest yet. Zoux why don't you wake up to the facts and stop eating what the media is feeding you if you unskew the data *farts*
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Bushiz posted:Chait will do anything to pretend that his ilk of South Park Liberal isn't responsible for creating the environment of Trump Ascendant, including denying it exists. May his hot takes keep him warm in the winter of Trump Year 01, after the gregorian calendar is forgotten in nuclear fire. Since we were talking about the Yale thing in the other thread - Chait went mental about that talking about how it was finally time to acknowledge that PC was well and truly running wild and was entering it's final mutation into full out fascism. Ever since, people on Twitter have been asking him why he hasn't written about various instances of actual censorship in academia, like GW suddenly remembering they have a policy against hanging flags out your dorm window when one kid put out a Palestinian flag, and his response is always some version of a smug "nice to see liberals engaging in what about-ism" deflection. My point is that Jon Chait is basically the Skip Bayless of political pundits.
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Bushiz posted:Chait will do anything to pretend that his ilk of South Park Liberal isn't responsible for creating the environment of Trump Ascendant, including denying it exists. May his hot takes keep him warm in the winter of Trump Year 01, after the gregorian calendar is forgotten in nuclear fire. Well, I also think that liberals didn't do this particular 9/11, I think that's all on the GOP.
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zoux posted:Add Jonathan Chait to the list of journalists that are still pretending like Trump isn't leading the polls. There is a certain type of columnist that is just hanging on the to the presumption that this Trump thing is just a temporary fad despite of everything. Chait is entirely correct in this article. Without Trump, Ted Cruz would have no chance at the nomination because his Republican politician peers have large incentives to ensure he fails. However, the energy that would be consumed tearing down Cruz now needs to be (or is at least thought to need to be) deployed on Trump.
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Joementum posted:Chait is entirely correct in this article. Without Trump, Ted Cruz would have no chance at the nomination because his Republican politician peers have large incentives to ensure he fails. However, the energy that would be consumed tearing down Cruz now needs to be (or is at least thought to need to be) deployed on Trump. I dunno why the temporary ascendance of Cruz is now a mortal lock for the nom, or are we always going to talk about how the second place guy is juuuust about to sweep in and end Trump?
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zoux posted:CBS News poll has Trump at 35% nationally his highest yet. Edit: even if the GOP knows that choosing him would be a possibly party-ending disaster for them, they may do it anyway because they are rudderless and willing to grab onto even the shortest term possibility of success. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Dec 10, 2015 |
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zoux posted:I dunno why the temporary ascendance of Cruz is now a mortal lock for the nom, or are we always going to talk about how the second place guy is juuuust about to sweep in and end Trump? If you read the article beyond the byline you'll see that there's no assertion that Cruz will win, just that he could.
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The odds I've seen from bookies on Trump getting the republican nomination have moved from 4:1 to 9:4 in just 2 weeks.
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SavageBastard posted:Jeffrey Lord is on Diane Rehm right now likening pro-Trumpers with civil rights activists and I'm getting itchy. Listening as well. Holy poo poo this guy.
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Joementum posted:If you read the article beyond the byline you'll see that there's no assertion that Cruz will win, just that he could. Well then why isn't the headline "Trump makes Cruz look less crazy". Also the difference in saying Cruz will win and Cruz can win is academic at this point, and means basically the same thing and also stop defending Jonathan Chait!
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Electric Bugaloo posted:You're kidding, right? Some guy with an Arabic name got assaulted in a store down the street where I live in NYC, with the assaulter yelling about Muslims. Its only going to get worse from here. I've said it before, but Trump, and by proxy the entire Republican party, are responsible for creating a more and more toxic environment for minorities for all stripes.
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Shifty Pony posted:Listening as well. Holy poo poo this guy. Now he's trying to pull the "Democrats are the real racists because Lincoln" crap.
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rkajdi posted:Yeah, saying we should lower ourselves to the level of listening to their racist drivel is the same as camping them. Can you give us some hot insights about the coming white genocide while you're at it? You're a terrible poster.
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zoux posted:Well then why isn't the headline "Trump makes Cruz look less crazy". Because that's not what the article is arguing. quote:Also the difference in saying Cruz will win and Cruz can win is academic at this point, and means basically the same thing Not really, and it's important if Cruz is able to use this to his advantage and win further concessions from the party or build his operation in ways that will make him more difficult to unseat in the next Senate primary. quote:and also stop defending Jonathan Chait