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Grandfather #1 designed ICBMs. Grandfather #2 was on the carrier that got blasted with radiation at Castle Bravo and died of cancer. It's a wash, really.
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Xae posted:I had to listen to a 6' 6" ~250-300 lbs boss at work talk about how he didn't feel safe walking around the streets of our upscale Minneapolis suburban (Edina) office with out a gun because of "immigrant gangs" in the area. Minneapolis is one of the least scary cities I've ever been in, up there with Denver as "I feel relatively safe walking around downtown-uptown at most hours" E: also I'm totally using those terms incorrectly, as I actually just mean the city core Aves Maria! fucked around with this message at 07:32 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Lotka Volterra posted:Minneapolis is one of the least scary cities I've ever been in, up there with Denver as "I feel relatively safe walking around downtown-uptown at most hours" You were probably in the nicer part. North Minneapolis and North Saint Paul are both really nasty areas. I delivered pizza in both places. It has to be the only time I've felt a sense of relief when a cop was following me.
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It's all subjective. I've met people who are scared to walk around downtown Seattle at night and I, an average lady, find that it's super chill. My very tall brother who looks like a line backer insisted on taking a cab back to his hotel instead of walking a few block. Big baby. I'm glad to be witnessing the apparent fall of Trump. It's no longer just a joke. People are mostly now repulsed.
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Tigntink posted:I'm glad to be witnessing the apparent fall of Trump. It's no longer just a joke. People are mostly now repulsed. The base isn't. They're pumped someone is finally "telling it like it is".
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On Terra Firma posted:The base isn't. They're pumped someone is finally "telling it like it is".
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JT Jag posted:And for the first time ever the people actually in charge of the party seem to be willing to draw a line they aren't willing to cross. Let's see if they hold it though. It's going to be tricky going back to dog whistles when someone's been using a bullhorn for the last few months.
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"outstone"? I've been fishing "outstate" for all my life, and boy, let me tell ya, the entire state of Minnesota is what we Chicagoans would call "downstate". Speaking of, Rahm's handling this whole BLM thing like an ice. So what if a convicted tax evader put forth a bill designed to get him some free tv airtime? Rahm's striking one helluva moderate stance, the thing which you'd do if you had your eyes on Washington. Too bad for the CPD, though; if any of you wanna know how CPD feels, I'd recommend the cop blog 'SecondCityCop': http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/?m=1 There you'll find the cop perspective on everything, such as: 5-O posted:We don't know how many way to say it, but you have been abandoned by the City. Rahm and the Machine will sacrifice you on the altar of political correctness and not lose a wink of sleep over it. Where does that leave you? Your family? Your kids? Back living with your in-laws while everything you worked for is destroyed for a political game? And when you get out from under, you're doing what? Something that doesn't have a stringent background check we suppose. Or 
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JT Jag posted:And for the first time ever the people actually in charge of the party seem to be willing to draw a line they aren't willing to cross. Let's see if they hold it though. I have the sense that a lot of it is based on the autopsy report from the 2012 election. One of the big points in the report was that demographics are changing; if the Republicans didn't want to keep getting stomped in Presidential elections, they had to start treating minorities better. Sure, the recommendations were tone-deaf, prejudiced, and condescending, but at least the party wanted to pretend to be more inclusive. Now Preibus has spent months watching the front-runner candidates poo poo all over the recommendations in that report, and it's becoming increasingly clear that large sections of the base are happy to roll around in that poo poo and eat it. Even worse, Trump's been pulling most of the other candidates deeper into the cesspit. The Republicans could easily weather a single nut-job candidate (see Ron Paul or Pat Robertson), but it's not clear they can handle having all the candidates agree with the need for national Muslim registration lists.
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Tobermory posted:I have the sense that a lot of it is based on the autopsy report from the 2012 election. One of the big points in the report was that demographics are changing; if the Republicans didn't want to keep getting stomped in Presidential elections, they had to start treating minorities better. Sure, the recommendations were tone-deaf, prejudiced, and condescending, but at least the party wanted to pretend to be more inclusive. Donald Trump had found a way to turn the 2016 election into a referendum on whether islam as practiced in the arab world is compatible with American values. Politically, it's sheer genius --- having a conversation on domestic policy causes Democrats to win, while having a referendum on foreign policy is an R victory. I wish the Democratic party were intelligent enough to run a campaign like that, then maybe we could sweep back Congress and pass some workable legislation.
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Tobermory posted:I have the sense that a lot of it is based on the autopsy report from the 2012 election. One of the big points in the report was that demographics are changing; if the Republicans didn't want to keep getting stomped in Presidential elections, they had to start treating minorities better. Sure, the recommendations were tone-deaf, prejudiced, and condescending, but at least the party wanted to pretend to be more inclusive. My Imaginary GF posted:Donald Trump had found a way to turn the 2016 election into a referendum on whether islam as practiced in the arab world is compatible with American values. Politically, it's sheer genius --- having a conversation on domestic policy causes Democrats to win, while having a referendum on foreign policy is an R victory. JT Jag fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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JT Jag posted:For the last three years I think everyone involved was completely happy to ignore that report. But, I dunno, maybe this caused them to finally dig it back up. Most of the party forgot about that report, but I don't think the Republican leadership did -- heck, they're the ones who wrote it. Except for the bits where they praised governors like Brownback and Walker for their bold financial reforms. Everyone's happy to pretend that never happened.
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On Terra Firma posted:The base isn't. They're pumped someone is finally "telling it like it is". Yea some of the base likes him for it, but most of America ain't the base. Hell, apparently most Republicans aren't the base either. Which bodes poorly for Republican presidential chances in 2016.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Moving out on your own was a stupid boomer ideal. At least not before you start spawning more parasites.
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The republicans have known for a lot longer than 4 years that demographics are against them. GWB ran as a kinder, minority-friendly Compassionate Conservative for a reason, and it wasn't because he was a nice guy. Though the one soft spot I have for GWB is that he clamped down on islamophobia after 9/11. I think even the GOP is surprised that the racism gig is still working in TYOOL 2015.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The republicans have known for a lot longer than 4 years that demographics are against them. GWB ran as a kinder, minority-friendly Compassionate Conservative for a reason, and it wasn't because he was a nice guy. Though the one soft spot I have for GWB is that he clamped down on islamophobia after 9/11. His administration's actions towards Muslims did not match his rhetoric
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I'm really digging all of the "it's stupid to move out of your parents's home" posts, making me feel like much less of a scrub baby this morning.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The republicans have known for a lot longer than 4 years that demographics are against them. GWB ran as a kinder, minority-friendly Compassionate Conservative for a reason, and it wasn't because he was a nice guy. Though the one soft spot I have for GWB is that he clamped down on islamophobia after 9/11. Kanye West would like to have a word with you.
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This is probably just kabuki theatre aimed at frightening the children, but the GOP Hivemind is now battening down the hatches for a Brokered Convention:: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
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Anderron Shi posted:I'm really digging all of the "it's stupid to move out of your parents's home" posts, making me feel like much less of a scrub baby this morning. In Asia it's the norm to stay with your parents until you get married and move out. Doing otherwise, while freeing, is a massive financial drain.
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"Give me a blank space bay bee; and I'll write your name."
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:This is probably just kabuki theatre aimed at frightening the children, but the GOP Hivemind is now battening down the hatches for a Brokered Convention:: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
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gradenko_2000 posted:Aren't most modern convention fights settled via the pre-balloting rules votes anyway? In theory yes, but they're also designed around the idea that a candidate will win early and have it locked up pretty quickly. The fear now is if Trump wins a plurality or at least enough to assure that no one candidate has a majority. It would be a hilarious disaster for the party.
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Paradoxish posted:Yeah, this is almost too insane to be real and the timing is just... what the gently caress? This isn't some lunatic fringe candidate like Ron Paul. This is a guy who's currently polling at 35% nationally and literally dominating the news cycle. What on Earth is the actual goal here? If they goad Trump into a third-party run now it's going to be the only thing anyone is going to talk about and the GOP is going to look like a party that's coming apart at the seams. There's no way something like that doesn't have serious downticket effects. The GOP has been riding the tiger too long and now it's going to turn around and eat them.
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Trivia posted:In Asia it's the norm to stay with your parents until you get married and move out. Doing otherwise, while freeing, is a massive financial drain. It's also the norm in Asia to not have sex until you're in your mid-20s. Which is more important in America, freedom and sexual liberation, or financial solvency?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:This is probably just kabuki theatre aimed at frightening the children, but the GOP Hivemind is now battening down the hatches for a Brokered Convention:: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-preparing-for-contested-convention/2015/12/10/d72574bc-9f73-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
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My Imaginary GF posted:"outstone"? I've been fishing "outstate" for all my life, and boy, let me tell ya, the entire state of Minnesota is what we Chicagoans would call "downstate". Cops are the purest distillation of aggrieved white privilege we have.
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If the Republicans really want to, I'm pretty sure they can just change the primary rules on a whim to make it harder for Donald to win
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JT Jag posted:If the Republicans really want to, I'm pretty sure they can just change the primary rules on a whim to make it harder for Donald to win Not entirely -- the rules are mostly devolved down to state level parties (though they could presumably pressure them.) I think they would be hesitant, should he keep trucking to OUTRIGHT deny him agency, for fear that would trigger him to run third party.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Not entirely -- the rules are mostly devolved down to state level parties (though they could presumably pressure them.) I think they would be hesitant, should he keep trucking to OUTRIGHT deny him agency, for fear that would trigger him to run third party.
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JT Jag posted:Maybe they want to force him to run third party, because they're done with this. With getting the Presidency in 2016?
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My Imaginary GF posted:It's also the norm in Asia to not have sex until you're in your mid-20s. Migf don't talk about things you're not experienced with.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Not entirely -- the rules are mostly devolved down to state level parties (though they could presumably pressure them.) I think they would be hesitant, should he keep trucking to OUTRIGHT deny him agency, for fear that would trigger him to run third party. I think the trick would be to force Trump to still fight for the nomination until the conventions instead of starting out as a third party in June and get a head of steam.
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JT Jag posted:Maybe they want to force him to run third party, because they're done with this. I think that would be their very last option because I think they view that as the last resort. Right now I think they assume they can scare the base (and the plethora of candidates running) into rallying around one candidate to defeat trump and emerge to fight Hillary -- even if that means settling for Ted Cruz. Bip Roberts posted:I think the trick would be to force Trump to still fight for the nomination until the conventions instead of starting out as a third party in June and get a head of steam. Right, I think the thought is that if he goes third party /after/ the convention, they can say he's sabotaging the party because the nominee was done so under a legitimate process.* * - Obviously this becomes a much more sticky thing to try and get around if you've had to all manner of backroom deals to get it done though. BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Bip Roberts posted:I think the trick would be to force Trump to still fight for the nomination until the conventions instead of starting out as a third party in June and get a head of steam. BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Right, I think the thought is that if he goes third party /after/ the convention, they can say he's sabotaging the party because the nominee was done so under a legitimate process.*
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JT Jag posted:The thought process behind forcing him to run third party now is that, even though he's Donald Trump, if he's not running for one of the major parties the media will, in all likelihood, get off his nutsack (at least to the extent they are now) and they would hope the base would eventually filter back. The convention would be more peaceful than one where Donald has a bunch of votes, too. What incentive would the media have to not cover Trump?
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Gravel Gravy posted:What incentive would the media have to not cover Trump? If he runs third party, this early, he becomes a true fringe candidate. He'll keep saying crazy poo poo, but he's no longer representative of a Major Party and Real Americans. He'll get headlines, but the media will have less reason to slavishly devote themselves to him.
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