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I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what couldThe Wilderness posted:Some even began to devise the crude outline of a strategy to jump-start a “draft Mitt” movement from the floor, which would involve flipping the delegates in Mormon-heavy states like Utah, Wyoming, and Idaho. http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins/the-secret-plan-to-nominate-mitt-romney-from-the-convention#.aoRZYvpr5v 
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rkajdi posted:In a realistic sense, isn't that the only point of a church or any religious organization anyway? I mean the religious organization not the religion itself, since they are obviously two different things. We talk about communities like Mormons or the (actual) Amish being "close knit" but really what that means is that they have a good internal network to support each other based on their religion. That's the whole point of joining a religious organization in the first place-- they have as much monopoly on religious practice as Weight Watchers has on dieting. Yes, but Christianity was specifically not supposed to be that way. In the gospels Jesus goes out of his way to piss off the Jewish religious establishment and say that organized religion isn't the way to salvation.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:22
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Eschers Basement posted:I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what could Is America ready for this level of spectacle?
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Dec 11, 2015 21:23
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Mulva posted:Yes, but Christianity was specifically not supposed to be that way. In the gospels Jesus goes out of his way to piss off the Jewish religious establishment and say that organized religion isn't the way to salvation. Uh, 3/4ths of the new testament is Paul telling us how to setup the Church.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:24
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Uh, 3/4ths of the new testament is Paul telling us how to setup the Church. Yes Paul, not Jesus. That's was my point.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:25
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Eschers Basement posted:I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what could Romney as the GOP candidate + Trump on a third party ticket would be incredible to behold.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:25
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TheDisreputableDog posted:If Obama gets his way this brave serviceman will be denied gun ownership too. Good since veterans are more at risk for suicide than the general population. Or do you only support the troops when it comes to ending their life? A Winner is Jew fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Uh, 3/4ths of the new testament is Paul telling us how to setup the Church. Also on how Paul is so great and Paul should be the leader, totally what Jesus wants guys, for real. - Paul and this, Mulva posted:Yes Paul, not Jesus. That's was my point.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:26
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The New Testament: The earliest recorded example of self-insert fan-fiction?
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Mulva posted:Yes, but Christianity was specifically not supposed to be that way. In the gospels Jesus goes out of his way to piss off the Jewish religious establishment and say that organized religion isn't the way to salvation. The religion can have any practice it wants, but relgious organizations are all going to be structured as large extended social clubs because that's all they've ever been anywhere. Why is seperating the religion from the organzation so hard for some people to do? Regardless of whatever truth a religion does or doesn't have, the organization is always built by people, and if you look at it dispassionately, fulfills the same role as every other similar organization. Nobody complains that people join the Lions Club, Boy Scouts, or whatever for networking, so why should we complain when they do it with a religious organization? I get that it doesn't live up to the ideals of the faith, but that ony puts it in the same category as every other religious group ever, so why single them out for it?
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Dec 11, 2015 21:30
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Eschers Basement posted:I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what could Honestly, Romney would be a pretty decent option for the GOP at this point. He has the advantage of not being tainted by the insanity of the current GOP primary.
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Mulva posted:Yes Paul, not Jesus. That's was my point. Yeah, a counter-rev scumbag got ahold of a cult and turned it back into another bog standard, top down oppression system. Why is this surprising since it happens so often with every kind of movement? Want to change it? Stop following Great Men.
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Eschers Basement posted:I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what could why the gently caress would they pick romney and not rubio?
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Dec 11, 2015 21:33
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Eschers Basement posted:I really don't understand why people here are salivating over no one winning the nomination on the first ballot, I mean what could I literally said this yesterday and everyone started making GBS threads on me for trolling.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:42
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Romney finished within spitting distance of an incumbent Obama. I think you can give him a few extra points against ultra-managed robo Hill.
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Ah yes, noted two-time loser Mitt Romney is surely the one who would eek out a victory against HRC. 
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Dec 11, 2015 21:45
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I literally said this yesterday and everyone started making GBS threads on me for trolling. The they included me in this case
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Dec 11, 2015 21:47
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I literally said this yesterday and everyone started making GBS threads on me for trolling. BI NOW GAY LATER posted:wow, you can be funny JT Jag posted:45% Hillary, 27% Trump, 15% Mitt Those are the only 2 responses to your "Mitt" post, the trolling was you going on about Hillary's indictment.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:47
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Romney finished within spitting distance of an incumbent Obama. 332 to 206 EV, and 51% to 47% (  ) PV isn't "spitting distance". especially when that 4% difference was 5m votes.
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A Winner is Jew posted:332 to 206 EV, and 51% to 47% ( He still believes in the unskewed polls.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Romney finished within spitting distance of an incumbent Obama. If you define "Spitting distance" as anything better than a Reagan-Mondale or Nixon-McGovern level electoral blowout then yes,  did come awfully close.
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Dec 11, 2015 21:52
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If you define "Spitting distance" as anything better than a Reagan-Mondale or Nixon-McGovern level electoral blowout then yes, the GOP could nominate a bag of cement and get 180 EVs, a blowout like that just isn't possible in 2016's electoral environment
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Dec 11, 2015 21:59
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Sorry if I missed it but I don't think anyone posted about Carson threatening to exit the GOP if they ratfuck Trump.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I literally said this yesterday and everyone started making GBS threads on me for trolling. no we laughed at it because you said you think mitt could beat hillary. we said you were trolling for other reasons.
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Fix posted:Sorry if I missed it but I don't think anyone posted about Carson threatening to exit the GOP if they ratfuck Trump.
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Dec 11, 2015 22:05
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JT Jag posted:The entire purpose of the formation of the Jewish religion and the writing of the Torah was to make societal rules so people wouldn't act like literal animals not just torah
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Dec 11, 2015 22:06
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JT Jag posted:That just sounds like more incentive for the GOP Establishment if they wanna clear out the crazies, to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq_aBJ9G6Q
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Dec 11, 2015 22:08
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rkajdi posted:The religion can have any practice it wants, but relgious organizations are all going to be structured as large extended social clubs because that's all they've ever been anywhere. Why is seperating the religion from the organzation so hard for some people to do? Regardless of whatever truth a religion does or doesn't have, the organization is always built by people, and if you look at it dispassionately, fulfills the same role as every other similar organization. Nobody complains that people join the Lions Club, Boy Scouts, or whatever for networking, so why should we complain when they do it with a religious organization? No one complains about the networking at the Lions Club or Boy Scouts because because A.) Those groups don't claim a moral/divine highground to justify their actions and B.) the Lions Club property isn't tax exempt and no one ever shot up a building for a Boy Scouts merit badge.
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Greatbacon posted:No one complains about the networking at the Lions Club or Boy Scouts because because
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Romney finished within spitting distance of an incumbent Obama. The forums can't withstand unskewing of this magnitude!
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Romney finished within spitting distance of an incumbent Obama. Romney lost in an electoral landslide with all kinds of tailwinds at his back. Nope
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At first I was skeptical of President Romney but he really has done a great job. Romneycare is a excellent program and the elimination of Minimum wage did in fact cause wages to rise. Him not attending the Paris conference and instead advocating opening up 200 additional coal plants caused me to be upset ,but really with unemployment in the negative percentage at this point it's obvious this country needed to elect a strong business man. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Mulva posted:Yes Paul, not Jesus. That's was my point. Yeah, I've always viewed Paul as the original televangelist.
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rkajdi posted:Except for helping oppress all those black people as the Baltimore Chief of Police and Mayor. no, that just makes him more like LF posters
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Mulva posted:I hear this all the time from my super-religious family on Facebook. Their argument is that Jesus was perfect and we aren't so we don't have to forgive others, God will do that. So BioShock Infinite?
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I overall have been pretty satisfied with President Romney , don't know about you people.
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JT Jag posted:Oh MOM Just watch The Wire again to disabuse yourself of such notions.
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Fix posted:Sorry if I missed it but I don't think anyone posted about Carson threatening to exit the GOP if they ratfuck Trump. It's amazing to me how Carson flamed out so quickly after just a minimum amount of scrutiny. Absolutely nobody gives a poo poo what Carson says at this point. It's just a question of who will benefit most from his ultimate complete collapse.
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Radbot posted:Doesn't it seem ludicrous that Microsoft was nearly split up over something that wouldn't even make the DOJ bat an eye today? Microsoft was never at serious risk of being split up, and never got more than a slap on the wrist, nor would it ever.
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Mulva posted:Because they aren't Christians they are non-religious Paulists. To them religion is not something that inspires you to help your fellow man or lead a more fulfilled life, it's something that provides divine cover for your pre-existing prejudices. Worshiping in a congregation is not a gathering of spiritual people coming together to become something larger than their individual selves, it's a social club where membership confers "goodness" or "righteousness". Just like their Saint they get so bogged down in the weeds of whether or not women can teach, how much is ok to drink, is it ok to have "x" kind of sex, that they never actually bother to look at the words of their Messiah. I mentioned this in the Islamophobia thread, but it's interesting how conservative Christians get branded as "not really religious!" but conservative Muslims get branded as "the totally true representation of Islam, or at least a perfectly valid form of it".
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