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If Trump did run 3rd party what are the odds we'd get a 3 way debate similar to what happened in the 90s with Perot. What a poo poo show those were. I'm sure Hillary would want it.
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Greatbacon posted:No one complains about the networking at the Lions Club or Boy Scouts because because A.) Sure they do. All those social clubs are regressive good old boys clubs. And boy scouts are moral high ground as gently caress. B.) They are tax exempt under a slightly different section of the tax code. My point isn't that it's wrong, it's that the cancer is way deeper than this no true scotsmen garbage that gets wheeled out.
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computer parts posted:I mentioned this in the Islamophobia thread, but it's interesting how conservative Christians get branded as "not really religious!" but conservative Muslims get branded as "the totally true representation of Islam, or at least a perfectly valid form of it". Well, some fat, bearded twat did recently declare himself Pope of all Muslims. And Salafists/Wahhabists would disagree with you that thier strict, hyper-conservative interperatation is incorrect. Part of that problem includes Saudi Arabia being ruled as a theocracy, giving further legitimization to the sort of radicalism they actively and violently push across the region (with U.S. complicity, even if we wish it would go away, but you know, oil). If tomorrow Westboro's Fred Phelps decided to declare himself the Anti-Pope, and had a few thousand really violent and insane followers brutally enforcing his will across a swathe of the mid-west, while Canada paid him and other violent Christian nutjobs across the nation to wage war on America and try to oust Obama to create "Jesusland", after China just finished installing a dictator that everyone hates while Obama brutally murders his people; *deep breath* it might then be a valid comparison for Indonesian Muslims to worry about Christian terrorists spreading across the globe to terrorize innocent people and consider them a representation of the possible Christian Immigrants who really just want to live on their far less insane shores. None of that makes Islamophobia OK however, and we need to find a solution that doesn't involve false equivalancy.
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Talmonis posted:Well, some fat, bearded twat did recently declare himself Pope of all Muslims. And Salafists/Wahhabists would disagree with you that thier strict, hyper-conservative interperatation is incorrect. Part of that problem includes Saudi Arabia being ruled as a theocracy, giving further legitimization to the sort of radicalism they actively and violently push across the region (with U.S. complicity, even if we wish it would go away, but you know, oil). I didn't say anything about false equivalency. What I said was that we are much more forgiving of Christianity than Islam, to the point that a bunch of supposed atheists are willing to call their enemies "not real Christians" despite said enemies explicitly identifying as Christians (and not doing this with Muslims).
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Clinton ally David Brock (who is on the board of her SuperPAC Priorities USA) is preparing for a Ted Cruz nomination, and thinks him, not Rubio or Trump, will get the nomination. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/hillary-clinton-david-brock-attack-ted-cruz-216694 quote:....“He’s where the Id of the conservative base is, I believe strongly. He’s got a lot of money, he’s a big super PAC, he’s also got low dollar donors. He’s playing a very long game organizationally on the ground,” Brock said. “He’s going to win Iowa, I believe, maybe not New Hampshire, but then South Carolina,” Brock said, adding that the party rules that allow for winner-take-all primaries come March will ensure a Cruz victory. Personally I still think it's Rubio, though I've become less confident recently edit: looks like James Carville and maybe even Bill are also thinking Cruz http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/hillary-clinton-trump-rubio-cruz-216516#ixzz3u3KpJVNr quote:...Longtime Clinton ally James Carville — who remains a close confidant of Bill Clinton’s — said he’s actually put his money where his mouth is, placing a bet on Cruz on the website PredictIt.com. theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 23:03
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theblackw0lf posted:Clinton ally David Brock (who is on the board of her SuperPAC Priorities USA) is preparing for a Ted Cruz nomination, and thinks him, not Rubio or Trump, will get the nomination. Wait. Carville is married to Mary Matalin?  The gently caress...?
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Hollismason posted:If Trump did run 3rd party what are the odds we'd get a 3 way debate similar to what happened in the 90s with Perot. What a poo poo show those were. I'm sure Hillary would want it. It'll be interesting. Even if Trump's support dropped, his money and stature would allow him to demand a spot, or threaten to buy programming time counter to it. That would be just like Perot with his infomercial shows. Though, with broadcast TV falling in importance, that likely wouldn't draw as much, and since most of the broadcast channels are affiliates of a 24-hour channel, they may not sell. (I'm assuming that the 24-hour channels just completely tune him out.) I don't know media has changed a lot. He could just stream something on the Internet for cheap and get coverage too.
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Fire reported at California mosque, witnesses say it was caused by "Molotov cocktail"
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DaveWoo posted:Fire reported at California mosque, witnesses say it was caused by "Molotov cocktail" In Texas a constable called on people to arm themselves against Muslim refugees in a shelter. This country is slipping back...
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CommieGIR posted:In Texas a constable called on people to arm themselves against Muslim refugees in a shelter. This country is slipping back... We never went forward 
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We went a few namometers forward, and a few planck lengths back.
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AlternateNu posted:Wait. Carville is married to Mary Matalin? You're kidding, right?
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Dec 11, 2015 23:40
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DaveWoo posted:Fire reported at California mosque, witnesses say it was caused by "Molotov cocktail" A Molotov on Hanukkah? Has anyone seen Scott Walker today?
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Dec 11, 2015 23:41
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SavageBastard posted:You're kidding, right? No. They have very, very angry sex. And now everyone that reads this will think about James Carville naked.
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Dec 11, 2015 23:42
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AlternateNu posted:Wait. Carville is married to Mary Matalin? This was much more common when polarization was much less. Same way that Schwarzenegger married Maria Shriver, nephew of the Kennedys. Basically, in the 90s, you really could say "ho hum, the two parties are just the same" and only be a minor idiot, not a major idiot. (Before you complain, I was such an idiot, rocking out to Rage Against the Machine as I pushed the metaphorical lever for Nader.)
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Because the Tortilla Coast crew is withholding votes on the omnibus, Pelosi might get a lift of the gun research ban in the final deal.
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My understanding is that Carville and Matalin, despite being tastemakers in their respective parties for decades, both genially treat their ideology as if they were fans of rival in-state college football teams. They're both absolutely ghoulish people, but it's almost admirable.
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after reading that stuff on tomato farm slavery, it's deeply despairing that people are being driven by their leaders to firebomb refugees, instead of firebombing literal slave owners.
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Dec 11, 2015 23:52
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Being a resident of New Orleans I can assure that James Carville is a weird weird weird man. Also, I yelled Skeletor at him one time and he got really upset.
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A Winner is Jew posted:No. I meant was he kidding about not knowing. And Carville has openly discussed his mastarbation on national television so you're way too late. JT Jag posted:My understanding is that Carville and Matalin, despite being tastemakers in their respective parties for decades, both genially treat their ideology as if they were fans of rival in-state college football teams. They're both from an era where this was the more typical way to treat politics.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:after reading that stuff on tomato farm slavery, it's deeply despairing that people are being driven by their leaders to firebomb refugees, instead of firebombing literal slave owners.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:after reading that stuff on tomato farm slavery, it's deeply despairing that people are being driven by their leaders to firebomb refugees, instead of firebombing literal slave owners. i have slave holders in my ancestors, are you saying that's a bad thing???? 
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So, if you have a lawmaker on retainer, does that count as quid pro quo corruption or do they need to bill for services?quote:Rep. Steve Brunk has been hired as executive director of the Kansas Family Policy Council, an advocacy group that strongly opposes abortion and same-sex marriage, according to a letter from the council. http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article49234310.html
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JT Jag posted:The New Testament: The earliest recorded example of self-insert fan-fiction? I still say Socrates, he was just too perfect. 
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JT Jag posted:My understanding is that Carville and Matalin, despite being tastemakers in their respective parties for decades, both genially treat their ideology as if they were fans of rival in-state college football teams. On the other hand, the constant sports-team analogy helped support a host of terrible issues that the mostly leaders of the two parties agreed on like welfare reform, law and order polices, financial deregulation, aggressive foreign policy, and the war on drugs.
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Istvun posted:So, if you have a lawmaker on retainer, does that count as quid pro quo corruption or do they need to bill for services?
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foobardog posted:On the other hand, the constant sports-team analogy helped support a host of terrible issues that the mostly leaders of the two parties agreed on like welfare reform, law and order polices, financial deregulation, aggressive foreign policy, and the war on drugs. So is the ability for both to speak English, if you think about it.
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MariusLecter posted:
This is horrible to watch. How do these sort of people exist in numbers high enough to give them political influence and airtime? I'm from the UK and wouldn't expect to find many people gibbering such angry frothing bile outside of an insane asylum. Make everyone in the population carry guns? Doctor! DOCTOR!!!
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SavageBastard posted:They're both from an era where this was the more typical way to treat politics. They're both from a snake's bowels.
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computer parts posted:So is the ability for both to speak English, if you think about it. We'd have full communism now if we had just adopted the metric system and Esperanto!
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foobardog posted:On the other hand, the constant sports-team analogy helped support a host of terrible issues that the mostly leaders of the two parties agreed on like welfare reform, law and order polices, financial deregulation, aggressive foreign policy, and the war on drugs. And Bernie says legalize weed, Fiorina told a lie/bullshit horror story about how marijuana killed her daughter. quote:"Like so many high-achieving young women, Lori also struggled with bulimia for years," Fiorina wrote. "Despite her repeated stays in rehab, the combination of bulimia, alcoholism, and drug abuse took its toll. She was divorced and living in New Jersey when she died." fade5 fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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radical meme posted:It's amazing to me how Carson flamed out so quickly after just a minimum amount of scrutiny. Absolutely nobody gives a poo poo what Carson says at this point. It's just a question of who will benefit most from his ultimate complete collapse. Compare and contrast with Trump. Then pour yourself another drink.
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fade5 posted:Ah yes, Obama and the Republicans famously agree on how to handle ISIL, and there haven't been any disputes at all. Did you miss the fact that the referenced period of time was the 90s through 2008? You know, the times when the Democrats were pretty well in support of bombing whatever country in the middle east, were pretty well against marijuana legalization and were pretty well against gay marriage? EDIT: The self-righteousness of liberals and how correct they and their politicians are on current topics is a pretty recent phenomenon, going hand-in-hand with the widening of the political schism and the hardening of political opinions in this country. On the one hand, your politicians are probably using rhetoric on topics the go in line with how non-moderate you are (and Goons oh so love bashing moderates). On the other hand, as shown in the responses on this very page to Carville's marriage, we're now to the point where politics is "such serious business" that the lot of you couldn't imagine being with a person with different viewpoints. You could, I don't know... not talk about politics with them? Maybe spend your time doing other, more immediately important things? Amergin fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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computer parts posted:I mentioned this in the Islamophobia thread, but it's interesting how conservative Christians get branded as "not really religious!" but conservative Muslims get branded as "the totally true representation of Islam, or at least a perfectly valid form of it". Oh absolutely, it's because once you are comfortable and have your needs taken care of you tend to stop needing God in a truly personal way. Look at the Keeper of the Two Holy Places and his family, that's conservative Islam.
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:This is horrible to watch. How do these sort of people exist in numbers high enough to give them political influence and airtime? I'm from the UK and wouldn't expect to find many people gibbering such angry frothing bile outside of an insane asylum. Make everyone in the population carry guns? Doctor! DOCTOR!!! you elected a tory
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Amergin posted:Did you miss the fact that the referenced period of time was the 90s through 2008?
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DolphinCop posted:you elected a tory A Tory who fucks dead pigs. Lest we forget, David Cameron hosed a dead pig.
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DolphinCop posted:you elected a tory And? Tories are a lot closer to "Democrat" than "Republican". The people in the video are more like less reasonable versions of Nick Griffin.
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Cabbit posted:A Tory who fucks dead pigs. DCFADP!
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