Scaramouche posted:I can't speak to farms generally, but my uncle owns a sub-100 acre dairy farm who had his three kids work as unpaid labour. One of them does not have a hand any more. Because it got eaten by the thresher. When he was 12. My husband's thumb was crushed in a hydrolic press when he was a kid, working on his family's farm.
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Hal_2005 posted:Nope. Kindly check the act dumbass. I had to read it more then twice with legal counsel verifying each statement so dig deeper then a NDP press release which is totally unbiased, amirte? Did you read the amendment? http://www.assembly.ab.ca/ISYS/LADDAR_files/docs/bills/bill/legislature_29/session_1/20150611_am-006-A1.pdf
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If my family's garment making business required the labour of my school aged children to be economically viable, and I couldn't afford to ensure they didn't violate any of Alberta's workplace health and safety laws, would I also be exempt?
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Scaramouche posted:I can't speak to farms generally, but my uncle owns a sub-100 acre dairy farm who had his three kids work as unpaid labour. One of them does not have a hand any more. Because it got eaten by the thresher. When he was 12. My legal counsel says this is the price we pay for freedom.
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Ikantski posted:So far Trudeau was off by 60% on refugees they'd get in this year, 40% off on revenue from 1% tax hike, the mortgage changes today were a joke, he changed the $10b deficit promise to a goal and bizarrely asked a bunch of civil servants to voluntarily resign so he could appoint his own shills. The guy is good at symbolic gestures and photo ops. There's lots of money to spend now, give him a few years of Buttsing the debt and the austerity will come just like Ontario. I don't see the big deal of extending the deadline for refugees by two months. edit- I also don't see why farmers should get away with having their kids do dangerous work, all because people love to jack off to how great family farms supposedly are. Monaghan fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/suspension-notices-sent-to-thousands-of-ottawa-students-demanding-proof-of-vaccinationquote:Suspension notices sent to thousands of Ottawa students demanding proof of vaccination This is pretty cool. hal, what's your legal council say about the fairness of this policy?
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T8R posted:Did you read the amendment? http://www.assembly.ab.ca/ISYS/LADDAR_files/docs/bills/bill/legislature_29/session_1/20150611_am-006-A1.pdf C 2 ii applies to wages. Way to fail at reading but excel at google, you wouldn't even cut it as a lobbyist paralegal. Stick to talking about Justin's hair.
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# ? Dec 12, 2015 06:03 |
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but what about 3 ii (F) 屁眼?
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Hal_2005 posted:C 2 ii applies to wages. Way to fail at reading but excel at google, you wouldn't even cut it as a lobbyist paralegal. Stick to talking about Justin's hair. You really should read the amendment.
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bunnyofdoom posted:nice Maclean article asking prominent Canadians about what they see in 2016 with the hash tag #becauseits2016 I legit laughed out loud to Corb Lund's entry, mostly because slot screws are the bane of my existence as a plumber. But yeah, I found the shitlord. gently caress man, I never thought I'd miss Michael Coren as "Canada's rightwing nutjob" but there you are.
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# ? Dec 12, 2015 06:07 |
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infernal machines posted:The protest was over the city's refusal to place an injunction against UberX* to prevent them from operating until the law can changed to allow them to operate legally in this city. Because right now, they're operating illegally, which amazingly, some of the people who've spent time and money to be properly licensed and insured to operate a cab for hire have a problem with. Let me stop you right there, by-laws are not laws. The city can pass whatever they want, but enforcing those by-laws will always fall onto by-law enforcement officers who are not police. The chances of proper enforcement in a city like Toronto are slim to none, so they can continue to whine about their city established monopoly being ruined.
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last night I got to sit through a good 15 minutes of listening to upset...voters before a club meeting (yes it was a gun club meeting, but that's beside the point) and it was quite interesting to hear all the vitriol being focused on JT and Notley. Citing how closing our coal fired plants won't do anything when China keeps making 10 worse ones each day. I kind of knew that these people exist, especially since I am about one or two "lieberals" articles away from blocking my brother on Facebook, but it was almost cathartic to listen these guys babble on for 15 minutes about how Alberta is doomed and the rest of Canada will follow shortly. Incidentally, I did the smart thing and did not engage since I was one NDP supporter versus 10...not NDP supporters (I could not tell you if they were Wild Rose, PC, or maybe just upset people that felt lied to when they voted NDP) and I kinda like trap shooting with these old guys, so I didn't want my relationship tarnished over politics. Also they weren't against bringing Syrians in but they were referencing the same debunked information that we aren't screening these people correctly, and as near as I can tell only one person outed themselves as a bigot since he thought our Minister of National Defence is "the same thing" as a Muslim, despite my friend correcting him that Sikhs are definitely not Muslims. Well, that was my anecdotal tale of "Alberta politics in the boonies", hope y'all enjoyed it
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I seriously doubt Hal has legal counsel.
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jm20 posted:Let me stop you right there, by-laws are not laws. The city can pass whatever they want, but enforcing those by-laws will always fall onto by-law enforcement officers who are not police. The chances of proper enforcement in a city like Toronto are slim to none, so they can continue to whine about their city established monopoly being ruined. Good point, this semantic quibble totally invalidates the rest of the point regarding the city's unwillingness to file an injunction against Uber for UberX violating it's own by-laws. Woe is me for I am undone. Oddly, TPS (the police) have/had been ticketing drivers operating for UberX. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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That entire Hal post was insane, but I just wanted to point out that the average farm size in Alberta is about 1200 acres. I don't think it would be possible to make a living with a <100 acre farm in Alberta. Dairy or weed maybe.
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I would like to say that I have no idea what the "alberta farm bill" entails but I do know that it has pissed off a bunch of farmers and having done work for farmers in the past I can say they are collectively the cruelest, meanest most swindling cunts on the planet and anything that might somehow attempt to force them to live in the modern world and join society as a whole in giving a single sloppy poo poo about their fellow human beings can only be a good thing.
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I just spent a week in the midwest working with conservative gun nuts. While their politics are generally terrible, not a single one of these guys had anything nice to say about Trump. The great thing is, they were loving hilarious guys to drink with and I sure as gently caress would buy them all a drink any day. I definitely would not do the same for the liberal progressive shitfuckers that are Vancouverites (or any of you idiots).
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infernal machines posted:Good point, this semantic quibble totally invalidates the rest of the point regarding the city's unwillingness to file an injunction against Uber for UberX violating it's own by-laws. Woe is me for I am undone. Laws should be passed provincially with regard to insurance for ridesharing not in cities. Even if they file an injunction they will just continue to operate and pay the fines so not sure why you think an injunction will do anything.
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ductonius posted:I would like to say that I have no idea what the "alberta farm bill" entails but I do know that it has pissed off a bunch of farmers and having done work for farmers in the past I can say they are collectively the cruelest, meanest most swindling cunts on the planet and anything that might somehow attempt to force them to live in the modern world and join society as a whole in giving a single sloppy poo poo about their fellow human beings can only be a good thing. this is the correct view. almost all farmers are just nepotist fucks these days, who have way more political influence in the provinces then they should.
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Cultural Imperial posted:I just spent a week in the midwest working with conservative gun nuts. While their politics are generally terrible, not a single one of these guys had anything nice to say about Trump. The great thing is, they were loving hilarious guys to drink with and I sure as gently caress would buy them all a drink any day. I definitely would not do the same for the liberal progressive shitfuckers that are Vancouverites (or any of you idiots). drat man, you are like super negative.
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jm20 posted:Laws should be passed provincially with regard to insurance for ridesharing not in cities. Even if they file an injunction they will just continue to operate and pay the fines so not sure why you think an injunction will do anything. An injunction would at least be a token measure showing they value their own by-laws, and more importantly would signal that the city has an actual interest in bringing Uber under regulation rather than ignoring the issue altogether. Also, Uber has caved to local pressure in the states, generally around the time the state's Attorney General's office gets involved (see New York). Beyond that, insurance isn't the only issue with unlicensed ride-hire services. There are safety regulations affecting both drivers and passengers that are simply ignored with UberX. The vehicles aren't accurately metered, and there are no accessibility standards either. tl;dr: They aren't only violating Toronto by-laws infernal machines fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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I don't think you understand how awful vancouverites (and canadians in general) actually are. For instance, today my partner witnessed a woman pushing a pram across a 4-way intersection where a woman driver kindly stopped (!) so she could cross. Car behind this stopped car leans on the horn. First driver gets out and starts screaming at the driver behind her. Second driver reciprocates. Just vancouverites being vancouverites i guess nbd right
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OSI bean dip posted:I seriously doubt Hal has legal counsel. "As your Attorney, I advise you to be a honking dickhole!" "Yes sir, Mr. Attorney sir!"
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OSI bean dip posted:I seriously doubt Hal has legal counsel. Having legal counsel would definitely have helped him with regards to not being completely wrong about this.
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Hal_2005 posted:Edit: Jesus you wasted 3 posts on 1 explanation? When did you go off your meds? Farm margins are so well documented as a cash intensive operation I'm not sure how I could even argue against trying to explain farming is not exactly a earnings rich field of work. So why is the government obligated to give unprofitable, over-leveraged businesses an exemption to otherwise universal health and safety regulations? Why does this only apply to "family farms"? What quantifiable value do these farms produce that offsets the costs of the people killed and maimed by failure to adhere to minimal safety standards?
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# ? Dec 12, 2015 06:48 |
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they give the tragically hip something to sing about
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THC posted:Yep im happy to keep him around as long as the alternative is NPA shitheads. Suburban motorist rage is the sweetest syrup. Jesus christ what? I guess I'm joining the BC Liberals then? COPE were pretty much total nutso cranks last municipal election. BCNDP need to become a lot more Vision than COPE if they're ever going to win an election...
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OK when I say "a lot" I mean a couple at most. The Liberals are still much worse of course, you have to be a flaming idiot or pure evil not to see that at this point.
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Cultural Imperial posted:I just spent a week in the midwest working with conservative gun nuts. While their politics are generally terrible, not a single one of these guys had anything nice to say about Trump. The great thing is, they were loving hilarious guys to drink with and I sure as gently caress would buy them all a drink any day. I definitely would not do the same for the liberal progressive shitfuckers that are Vancouverites (or any of you idiots).
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How on earth does anyone from COPE get any traction at the BC NDP? Their policies were a garbage fire and they got completely and utterly smoked in the municipal election. They are huge, unredeemable failures.What justification is someone at the BC NDP using to give these folks any position of relevance?
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Femtosecond posted:How on earth does anyone from COPE get any traction at the BC NDP? Their policies were a garbage fire and they got completely and utterly smoked in the municipal election. They are huge, unredeemable failures.What justification is someone at the BC NDP using to give these folks any position of relevance? -Garbage fire polices -Unredeemable failures -Smoked in elections Sounds like perfect BCNDP material.
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Everyone shut the gently caress up about your stupid Liberal bullshit that no one actually cares about. The Honorable Michael Dennis Duffy totally knew James Bond, and it triggered a sobbing fit. Is he seriously just loving with the courts at this point? We know he was a Tory stooge who marched in lockstep with Harper. It was the reason this stupid fat gently caress was even hired. He was likable and could shill votes like a pro. He's done and he knows it. Why isn't this giant stupid rear end in a top hat just not selling his Tory slavemasters down the river at a vague hope of freedom? Here's some JJ for you guys to keep you idiots fighting:
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I don't know, for once I kind of love this JJ e: I told my dad about how cbc banned comments on Native issues today and it was kind of heartbreaking to tell a near-70 year old academic died-in-the-wool Liberal man just how appallingly racist news-site comments tended to be. He legitimately had no idea. ManlyGrunting fucked around with this message at 09:00 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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He's very good at cartoons, it's too bad he turned out to be such a right wing shithead. I think nearly everyone can appreciate that one though
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Ikantski posted:So far Trudeau ... bizarrely asked a bunch of civil servants to voluntarily resign so he could appoint his own shills. RBC posted:Deepak can suck a dick. He was chosen to bust the union and get the postal service ready to be privatized. Anyone pretending otherwise is lying. He's always been Harper's puppet. Cultural Imperial posted:Did you guys see Albertans are calling for Notley to be murdered for passing some farm labor safety bill? loving lol. If Albertans aren't the worst loving scum on earth I don't know what is I wonder how it feels to be the leader of a party where you have to publicly plead with your voting base to please stop threatening political assassinations over safety regulations. Hal_2005 posted:Nope. Kindly check the act dumbass. I had to read it more then twice with legal counsel verifying each statement so dig deeper then a NDP press release which is totally unbiased, amirte? You are the only person irl, in the news, or on the internet that I've heard saying that Family Farms will be affected. How does it feel to be the Canadian Reverse Cassandra? Cultural Imperial posted:I don't think you understand how awful vancouverites (and canadians in general) actually are. Last year I was driving in Cape Breton and I stopped to let a teenager walk across a marked cross walk. The car behind me pulled around me without slowing and was literally inches from slamming into her and most likely killing her. I'm sure other places are bad, but Cape Breton is the most dangerous place I've ever driven. They kill each other with their cars there.
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Hal is busy waking up his aide de camp to find out who or what Cassandra is right now
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Professor Shark posted:
Maybe you've never driven in Quebec. In my time in Cape Breton, the biggest problem was people blocking the road because they were having a conversation with a car going the other way.
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Professor Shark posted:I wonder how it feels to be the leader of a party where you have to publicly plead with your voting base to please stop threatening political assassinations over safety regulations. I wondered this myself, when I saw his post yesterday. What a political climate to work in, where you actually have to make a statement like this. Brian Jean seems like a pretty genuine fella. I don't know him that well, though, so it may just be a political persona, but I do want to give people the benefit of the doubt, and I'll admit I don't follow Alberta politics that closely. Some of his Facebook followers went on to say Notley the NDP "deserve it" for putting the bill out there in the first place, and everyone's favourite blowhard... we'll call him Ezra L.? No, that's too obvious... E. Levant, is now accusing the NDP legislators who got death threats, of lying about it in the house.
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# ? Dec 12, 2015 15:23 |
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i like to think of hal as the canadian equivalent of martin shkreli except without the money.
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brucio posted:Maybe you've never driven in Quebec. I have not had that pleasure brucio posted:In my time in Cape Breton, the biggest problem was people blocking the road because they were having a conversation with a car going the other way. People do that where I live too- a few weeks ago I was driving down a road and two people were doing that and I got the most hateful stare down for not passing them on the right onto the shoulder of the road. Rural people are strange and I'm still not fully accustomed to living here after growing up in the city
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