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Atomicated posted:Those spiders that run away from you and spawn more spiders are probably the deadliest enemy in greed mode for me. Yeah. Other than those ones though, spiders are pretty easy unless you got some tricky terrain. But if we're taking room layouts into account then I'm going to have to go with hosts/walking hosts as the biggest pains in the rear end.
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I love how complaining about something almost always instantly fixes the problem complained about. First mum kill! Got a super overpowered run with me finishing with a flight capable demon that had practically instafire dual laser attack that spawned flies on hit. Hopefully this'll start happening more often now 
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Dec 12, 2015 00:00
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Let's play "spot Isaac" today  
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Dec 12, 2015 00:01
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I might be a babby for having scummed my Lost wins before the Alt-F4 patch, but getting sniped by a laser eye hidden behind It Lives is some bullshit.
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Dec 12, 2015 00:10
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I played Greed mode until I got the holy mantle before even playing The Lost. I have yet to unlock anything with him despite some really solid unlocks due to Krampus in a narrow room and Curse of Darkness making me miss a shadow right before I got flattened by Monstro II on the boss rush.
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Dec 12, 2015 00:25
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Waffle! posted:I might be a babby for having scummed my Lost wins before the Alt-F4 patch, but getting sniped by a laser eye hidden behind It Lives is some bullshit. It Lives! Kills the enemies it spawns. Eyeballs that spawn behind it should die in a couple of seconds. Just gotta keep moving.
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Dec 12, 2015 00:27
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I've honestly never got much use out of 9 lives. Then again, I play Isaac by tanking every hit as I clumsily navigate the game keys on my keyboard
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Dec 12, 2015 03:20
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The only reason 9 lives exists is because of Judas and the Lost.
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Dec 12, 2015 03:51
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9 lives is great. You can use it to take lots of devil deals, steal from the boss rush, and not die when you got hit too much and deserved to die. It's the best guppy piece. It's nowhere near one of the strongest devil items though. By my count, the devil pool has 30 items worse than it and 19 better items better than it.
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Dec 12, 2015 04:04
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WZA2 JTS7 This is a good seed. It let me unlock Abaddon. 
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BillmasterCozb posted:The only reason 9 lives exists is because of Judas and the Lost. I got Dead Cat with Suicide King for the first time ever today. Good times!
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Dec 12, 2015 04:31
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Toxxupation posted:actually spiders are the worst enemies Agreed, but those walking skull turrets are a close second, not because they're hard, they're just really boring to fight. I hate enemies in games that just waste your time.
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Dec 12, 2015 04:34
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Hyphen-ated posted:9 lives is great. You can use it to take lots of devil deals, steal from the boss rush, and not die when you got hit too much and deserved to die. It's the best guppy piece. It's nowhere near one of the strongest devil items though. I really like the paw. Converting red heart containers to soul hearts has saved my rear end on three separate occasions.
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Dec 12, 2015 04:45
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voltcatfish posted:I really like the paw. Converting red heart containers to soul hearts has saved my rear end on three separate occasions. The paw is definitely one of the strongest items in the entire game.
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Dec 12, 2015 05:59
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Drowned hives are among the loving worst in that they spawn drowned chargers which have a million loving hp every time you so much as look at them
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Dec 12, 2015 06:02
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Tetracube posted:Drowned hives are among the loving worst in that they spawn drowned chargers which have a million loving hp every time you so much as look at them A room with two champions of those added over ten minutes to a run with poo poo damage.
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Tetracube posted:Drowned hives are among the loving worst in that they spawn drowned chargers which have a million loving hp every time you so much as look at them i wouldn't have a problem with them if not for the fact that they spawn them so quickly and frequently I also seem to only loving ever get flooded basement so i always expect basement to take twice as long as the other floors 
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Dec 12, 2015 06:58
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Tetracube posted:Drowned hives are among the loving worst in that they spawn drowned chargers which have a million loving hp every time you so much as look at them just fought one of these in a narrow room on the daily. hate those guys
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Dec 12, 2015 07:09
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the first afterbirth tournament is this weekend, starting at 6 am saturday and running basically all day saturday and sunday. xelnas is hosting it. the prize pool is Fifty Dollars. i'm hoping to win the dollars. http://www.twitch.tv/xelnas http://challonge.com/lostchild
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Dec 12, 2015 07:28
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Having the lost start with holy mantle is actually....fun? I managed to beat hush on my second try. God knows how long that would have taken without it. Weird to see a patch that actually makes the game better, but I'm digging it
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Dec 12, 2015 15:02
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I had a run yesterday with Mom's Key + Skeleton Key + Humbling Bundle + Key Beggar, unlimited chests pretty much Key beggar becomes amazing if you have sack head. Allowed me to become guppy, massively boost my damage and fill out my health in the room right before the Hush. Awesome breaking combo.
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Bug Bill Murray posted:Having the lost start with holy mantle is actually....fun? I managed to beat hush on my second try. God knows how long that would have taken without it. Weird to see a patch that actually makes the game better, but I'm digging it
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Well, things definitely sped up suddenly. Beat mum's heart for the first time. Got a bit confusing towards the end since locating small Cain amidst all the stuff around him wasn't too easy  Definitely helped that I got a 6 pip dice room almost off the bat that gave me 99 bombs and continuum. Then I eventually got shielded tears which helped immeasurably against the heart since I didn't have to dodge. The charge shot got a bit annoying since I couldn't just rapidfire though 
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   I sure do look forward to killing Mega Satan with these characters. 
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Almost immediately after the previous run I got another OP run, on which I was able to kill Satan and The Lamb due to getting Teleport 2 and skipping ALL the latter stage chests via devil room or I AM ERROR room trapdoors. Went through most of the levels using these weirdo huge coins as ammo and almost screwed it up right at the end by picking up tiny planet (not so bad, really) and then monstro's lung (MISTAKE). Got super lucky and picked up a laser thingymajig almost immediately afterwards so I only had to go through about four rooms with the useless tiny planet monstro's lung shot Killed all the remaining enemies in no time flat since it was crazy powerful. EDIT: also had a magnetic shot for most of the game, got a bit hectic at times with enemies flinging around with the huge coin shots.
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Hyphen-ated posted:the first afterbirth tournament is this weekend, starting at 6 am saturday and running basically all day saturday and sunday. xelnas is hosting it. the prize pool is Fifty Dollars. i'm hoping to win the dollars. Grats on the win so far. Probs' runs were pretty crazy, drat. 
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i've never really looked into racing until now. really nice performance there!
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Trying to get Mega the hard way and failing. I have 130-some Eden tokens...i guess my odds of coming up with it aren't too great with that either. Ugh.
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Kawalimus posted:Trying to get Mega the hard way and failing. I have 130-some Eden tokens...i guess my odds of coming up with it aren't too great with that either. Ugh. Is there an easy way to get to Mega Satan? Beating him with everyone is all I really have left to do
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Bug Bill Murray posted:Is there an easy way to get to Mega Satan? Beating him with everyone is all I really have left to do Well with sacrifice rooms reworked you can now get the angels to spawn there pretty easily and get those key pieces. So it's not too hard anymore. Just the Lost you still have to do it the old fashioned way. So now you can get the keypieces without sacrificing the damage you get from devil room items. http://platinumgod.co.uk/sacrifice-rooms Also it's lots easier to fight them in that room cause those spikes affect flying enemies too and the angels will run themselves across the spikes. Kawalimus fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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What does manual seed input change as far as unlocks are whatever? Just curious. I get a lot of overpowered seeds I wan tto retry but I think they probably are useless to do? Just beat my first boss rush. Woo!  Had guppy xform firemind and chemical peel by the end of floor 2. Edit- just got Spun. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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I know we all know this, but Rag Man is such a fucker. And always in such a predictable way: he'll fire some homing shots that accelerate towards me at extremely high speed despite me being over the other side of the map. And then I die.
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Dec 12, 2015 23:23
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What's the point of Isaac's heart? It seems entirely worthless and pointless for how easily it gets hit.
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Ryuga Death posted:What's the point of Isaac's heart? It seems entirely worthless and pointless for how easily it gets hit. Well you don't suffer any damage from Blood Banks or Devil Beggars so that's something I guess? It's not a terrible item if you get rid of every normal mode of thinking and keep on running towards the enemies rather than away, but that's quite a barrier to entry for something that's got so few upsides.
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It does have a few super powerful synergies when combined with certain items, but on its own it's not too great. Though it does allow free access to Curse Rooms.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:I know we all know this, but Rag Man is such a fucker. And always in such a predictable way: he'll fire some homing shots that accelerate towards me at extremely high speed despite me being over the other side of the map. And then I die. I kind of walk in circles around him early on, and always fire at his head when he rolls it and try to kill it before it becomes a spider. The damage you do to the rolling head does damage to the overall boss too so he just gets caught in a chain of throwing his head and the head getting beat. The homing shots are weirdly accurate but usually my orbiting him stops that. Only attack of his that is really really obnoxious to me is that heal/summon he can do.
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Toxxupation posted:Anyways, here's my Pro rear end Pro Tips For Newbies to Binding: Now, maybe I'm just a scrub, but a lot of these tips seem... not that good. Devil room items are usually GOOD, but on a vanilla save they certainly aren't "take all of them every time"; A lot of the really good stuff has to be unlocked through challenges. I was amazed at the difference in my Devil Rooms after unlocking some stuff, but it was often a huge bummer to go "what was this item again?" *grab* "Oh yeah, it's the thing that's useless to me." A lot of your comments about Devil Rooms are accurate, I just don't think this advice will make the game easier or more fun. You're telling a new player to get their max health as low as possible, which is good advice for a person who has practiced and knows about the game, but doesn't seem that great early on. "get nine lives every time it's really good" Again, this just seems like 'GIT GUD' to me. "You'll die in literally one hit, but do it anyway, lrn2play and you'll have a good time." I rarely take it, because there's a lot of bosses I can't beat without getting hit, and it's super frustrating to have seven or eight runs at a boss and just die like a bitch, starting over each time. You also neglected to point out the main reason WHY it's a good item, namely that it lets you take more devil room items. (Again, this is still quite good, but becomes more of a boon later on when there's more great items in the pool) You seem to be running on the assumption that having the lowest health is the best way to play, but when you're still learning enemy patterns, I don't think it is. For the same reason, a lot of veteran advice is that the blue soul hearts are flat-out better than red hearts in every way, which is true... but only if you're not getting hit much. Red hearts, which are easily refilled, are good if you're going to hit more than, say, once per floor. To go full soul hearts, you also need to know how to get them. Example: new guy, did you know you can bomb blue flames for a good chance at soul hearts? Seems to be about 50%, so it's usually a good trade, especially when there's a couple of the fires together. There's a lot of basic poo poo to learn, as well as tricks/obscure knowledge (learn to predict where secret rooms will spawn; you can get several items, like maps, X-Ray Glasses, the miner's hat, and I Can See Forever pills, that will show you where they are so you can start learning the rules) before you should stat getting into intense pro strats - or, at least, that's true for me. Sorry if I sounded like a dick at all; it honestly wasn't my intention. Some of the info wasn't as complete as it could be, though, and I wanted to be helpful.
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Kawalimus posted:I kind of walk in circles around him early on, and always fire at his head when he rolls it and try to kill it before it becomes a spider. The damage you do to the rolling head does damage to the overall boss too so he just gets caught in a chain of throwing his head and the head getting beat. The homing shots are weirdly accurate but usually my orbiting him stops that. Only attack of his that is really really obnoxious to me is that heal/summon he can do. Yeah that's what I do, but as I'm playing with the Lost it only takes 2 super homing bullets to kill me, which normally happen right at the start and when the tears are in the air to kill him after hugely long fight.
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omeg posted:Grats on the win so far. Probs' runs were pretty crazy, drat. I was on the edge of my seat for problems's races, he came so close to losing to the newcomer alwaysbored, it would have been incredible quote:i've never really looked into racing until now. really nice performance there!
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John Lee posted:There's a lot of basic poo poo to learn, as well as tricks/obscure knowledge (learn to predict where secret rooms will spawn; you can get several items, like maps, X-Ray Glasses, the miner's hat, and I Can See Forever pills, that will show you where they are so you can start learning the rules) before you should stat getting into intense pro strats - or, at least, that's true for me. As someone who has been learning from random poo poo you guys say in this thread and playing myself, with some platinum gods help, most of what you said is true. Sometimes if, especially if I'm tired but also because I'm just not good yet, I start getting hit a lot more but get through on good luck from healing. Also, Nevvy Z posted:What does manual seed input change as far as unlocks are whatever? Just curious. I get a lot of overpowered seeds I want to retry but I think they probably are useless to do? Because I just beat the Lamb for the first time and this whole run was an absolute cakewalk from begining to end. Massive damage output by the end of floor three or and I didn't even take the 5 Dice room bonus floor.
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