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Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
Mostly traps are worthless although they can be used pretty safely once you realize you can wire a terminal temporarily up to the triggers and set them to only go off on enemies, thus there's no reason not to set up a mad-max style pair of flamethrower traps either side of your gate



Also maybe your settles repair stuff over time I think?? So you don't have to spend any active resources fixing up your teslas after their wad is blown. although I dunno if they reset the tripwire.


My main use for traps and tripwires and all those sensor-shits is setting up a sensor so that when enemies actually get into the main part of my base it sets off a siren, sirens attract your settles around themselves even during combat. If there was some kind of security camera I'd use them to keep my settlers INSIDE the walls while my turrets sort them out but alas they're mostly just useful for making sure your invincible pipegun army is doing their loving job of defending their own houses.

Motherfucker fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Dec 13, 2015

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khy
Aug 15, 2005

WTB modding kit sooner rather than later. I'm in dire need of a way to organizer my settlers. NEED TO NAME SETTLERS!

Toadsmash
Jun 10, 2009

Dave Tate's downsy face approves.
Also, deathclaw raids are totally a thing. I don't even know.

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


Toadsmash posted:

Also, deathclaw raids are totally a thing. I don't even know.

sadly, neither did the brotherhood of steel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26qqCwxzi0E

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Why isn't this in the game?!?

Is there any concept art of the ghoul whale settlers will mention?

EDIT: Also if you haven't take a close look at some seagulls when you get a chance. Ravens made it through the apocalypse without much of a change. Seagulls not so much.

Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Dec 13, 2015

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Entropic posted:

The "traps" section of the defense buildables in the workshop is utterly not worth bothering with, right?

I placed exactly two traps before, and both times they were tesla coils and both times they discharged the second I hooked them up to a power source and shocked me. I have no idea how they're "supposed" to work but I doubt that's it.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Jonesy posted:

sadly, neither did the brotherhood of steel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26qqCwxzi0E

The commentary on this is nearly as bad as some of the V/O work in FO4 itself. Yeesh.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Zeron posted:

It's never something that actually existed, it's a rumor that won't die due to a UI bug. You get the full materials of anything you put in a workshop, however sometimes the individual components that aren't used won't appear to be there. If you go to make something you will still have them, and after awhile they will show up. There's no difference between storing something in your workshop and scrapping it.
On the other hand, I've been getting the opposite -- having all the materials but being unable to build random things with them:



I get it all the time with beds.

Seashell Salesman
Aug 4, 2005

Holy wow! That "Literally A Person" sure is a cool and good poster. He's smart and witty and he smells like a pure mountain stream. I posted in his thread and I got a FANCY NEW AVATAR!!!!
The housing mods for this game, once the CK comes out, are going to be mental. Check out what this guy has accomplished without it: http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/5080/

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Entropic posted:

The "traps" section of the defense buildables in the workshop is utterly not worth bothering with, right?

Correct. They burn out after one use.

King Vidiot posted:

I placed exactly two traps before, and both times they were tesla coils and both times they discharged the second I hooked them up to a power source and shocked me. I have no idea how they're "supposed" to work but I doubt that's it.

They activate as soon as they have power. So you need to use manually switches pylons or laser tripwires or whatever to power them at the right time. Whereupon they will do pitiful damage then break.

BambooEarpick
Sep 3, 2008
For all the people complaining about this game and poo poo I feel like it's totally worth what I paid for it. I've put in over 100 hours and I'm on my third run right now. I'm having fun with it; it doesn't have to be 72 virgins in heaven or whatever so stop blowing up over this poo poo.

(I paid 0 dollars for it, so, ymmv on whether it was worth the price of admission)

Jay Rust posted:

How the hell are you meant to kill the Concord Deathclaw on Survival?

I found the easiest way for me to do it is snipe out most of the Raiders from the roof with the Musket then hop down to finish off the stragglers with whatever. When the Deathclaw starts to make his entrance casually walk into a building. He will stand at the door being really mad at you while you shoot him. He might run away at some point but you can probably just fight him legit after that. Or aggro him and walk back into a building.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.
mod idea: Eyebots that can hang around your base and play holotapes, random eyebots in the wilderness with holotapes that play music or advertising or whatever, to use them you have terminals plugged into a 'eyebot charger' put the holotape in the terminal and set the conditions of play, like when combat breaks out or whatever.


That way when the seinfeld theme starts to play you know your eyebots have spotted the enemy!


I dunno I just like the idea of setting up eyebots and loudspeakers with holo-tapes playing christmas music or w/e

khy
Aug 15, 2005

So I'm wandering around, on my way to Jamaica Plain to set up a settlement for Preston. Came across a suit of X-01 armor! Except it has no left arm or left leg.

Is there any way to get power armor components anywhere or do I need to keep looking until I find another suit with the components I'm missing?

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.

khy posted:

So I'm wandering around, on my way to Jamaica Plain to set up a settlement for Preston. Came across a suit of X-01 armor! Except it has no left arm or left leg.

Is there any way to get power armor components anywhere or do I need to keep looking until I find another suit with the components I'm missing?

The atom-cats sell individual pieces including x-type very occasionally.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I just console in parts I need if I'm past the point where they spawn. I need one more t51 set and I doubt I'll find one since I'm getting x01 now. Other than that, just atom cats for anything besides t60. The brotherhood dumps a ton of t60 on you.

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.
What do extra playthroughs bring that simply levelling can't do? There's zero roleplaying, you can game the factions to the very end ... I have zero impulse to play through some of the quests again because they end in much the same way. I don't get it.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


EricFate posted:

I think almost everyone has at least once. His whole drat crew is really touchy about collateral damage. I had to do some serious console trickery to try to get that quest set back up after the unintended carnage.

Yeah, gotta at least snipe the ones away from ol' Lookout.

What's worse is you'd think siding with the scavvies would get you a better amount of caps than the ship wages. As it is, they vote to kill you after you murder Ironsides. Who'd have thought the best rewards would come from just playing along?


Motherfucker posted:

The atom-cats sell individual pieces including x-type very occasionally.

But if you desire, Court 35. It's unmarked, though. Plus you have to kill an Assaultron and a Sentry Bot at the same time.

Motherfucker
Jul 16, 2011

I certainly dont have deep-seated issues involving birthdays.

TG-Chrono posted:

What do extra playthroughs bring that simply levelling can't do? There's zero roleplaying, you can game the factions to the very end ... I have zero impulse to play through some of the quests again because they end in much the same way. I don't get it.

Nothing much, its just that later on levels come real slow and it can be a pain in the rear end to get the stuff you want

Gonkish
May 19, 2004

So if you hit up Goodneighbor before Diamond City (or probably just before learning about Nick's agency) you can go to the Memory Den and Irma will talk to you about the loungers and offer a trial run. You relive the whole abduction/spousal murder scene. Apparently you can only do this if you hit up Goodneighbor BEFORE Diamond City. So yeah. Not entirely sure it's worth it, but it's easy XP.

LastGoodBoy
Sep 7, 2014

Keep your mind be open window everyday
Trying this "water baron " thing mentioned here. Duping my alien blaster is still a much better money making method.

Toadsmash
Jun 10, 2009

Dave Tate's downsy face approves.

Motherfucker posted:

Nothing much, its just that later on levels come real slow and it can be a pain in the rear end to get the stuff you want

Some people just don't do as well with the Radiant/less directed gameplay that comes once you're through the majority of the one-off quests, either.

I enjoy the nuts and bolts of the gunplay and the exploration enough to keep going for a long time. It's not for everyone, though.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009


I love the juxtaposition between Fallout 3 and 4. The entire plot of FO3 was about getting clean water, while in FO4 you can just set up some wells and purifiers and have thousands of gallons of clean water across the Commonwealth super easily. Even some dopey kid in Diamond City was smart enough to just make a purifier in some little lake.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

JackBadass posted:

Trying this "water baron " thing mentioned here. Duping my alien blaster is still a much better money making method.
If you're cheating, why not just give yourself a zillion caps and not give a poo poo?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Did the Billy Ghoul quest. gently caress that little rear end in a top hat for wanting me to go through the deathtrap that is Quincy. Deathclaws on the waterfront, raiders and Gunners duking it out through the center, and quarry raiders plus supermutants if I try to go around southwest. Stupid little ghoul.

But to be positive, I've found myself really enjoying the companions in this game, far more than the main quest. Just chilling with Hancock or Danse is great because they actually have some depth to them, even if Danse can get a little space cadet at times.

Horrible Smutbeast
Sep 2, 2011

TG-Chrono posted:

What do extra playthroughs bring that simply levelling can't do? There's zero roleplaying, you can game the factions to the very end ... I have zero impulse to play through some of the quests again because they end in much the same way. I don't get it.

Some of the quests break and autocomplete after you do the main story quest, like Covenant. You can also only go through the quest with one companion and there's a lot of extras or alternative outcomes. Plus you can only really specialize in one or two weapons and play styles per playthrough. Not enough to go through a few more times though unless you're doing a good/evil one.

Toadsmash
Jun 10, 2009

Dave Tate's downsy face approves.
Nick Valentine is my favorite by far and I wish there were more of the agency quests. I know he's cliche as all hell, but I'm a sucker and I still love it.

The easter egg in the police department for his backstory was also a treat.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

I loving love Radstorms. The sound of lightning crackling through the air. The distant bolts chaining through the clouds. They look and sound just amazing. The sort of thing I'd wish for IRL to sit on my porch and watch if it wouldn't subject me to ridiculous doses of gamma radiation :v:

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

khy posted:

I loving love Radstorms. The sound of lightning crackling through the air. The distant bolts chaining through the clouds. They look and sound just amazing. The sort of thing I'd wish for IRL to sit on my porch and watch if it wouldn't subject me to ridiculous doses of gamma radiation :v:

You might like the STALKER games then. It was influenced by Fallout and later vice versa, though it's a comparatively more "hardcore" survival experience. I personally recommend the third, Call of Pripyat, as it's the most well-rounded of the series.

For a sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Z6CxmiCwY

It's pretty haunting.

LastGoodBoy
Sep 7, 2014

Keep your mind be open window everyday

Nitrox posted:

If you're cheating, why not just give yourself a zillion caps and not give a poo poo?

That's what I'm doing by duping the blaster.

Fereydun
May 9, 2008

T.G. Xarbala posted:

You might like the STALKER games then. It was influenced by Fallout and later vice versa, though it's a comparatively more "hardcore" survival experience. I personally recommend the third, Call of Pripyat, as it's the most well-rounded of the series.

For a sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Z6CxmiCwY

It's pretty haunting.
as an addendum:
probably don't play clear sky first even though it's my favorite- it loses a lot of the atmosphere and general strengths of the series in exchange for a really unique/neat faction war system and centers itself around squad firefights over wasteland exploration/survival

seriously when's the mod that lets me just take a small squad of random dudes from my settlement out on adventures to die horribly
also the mod to have a radio that just plays this permanently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9igd-xie_A
surprise it's not the bandit music YEAH WHAT

Fereydun fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Dec 13, 2015

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

double nine posted:

So what are some great personal base locations? I've been using red rocket gas station but I want something with a prettier and more interesting view. Any suggestions?

I used RR for my first two playthroughs, decided to set up at Sanctuary this time for the more town-like feel

Then I found Spectacle Island and, well, gently caress you Jun and Marcy I'm out

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
The rad storms in Fallout 4 seem like they were inspired by the emissions in in STALKER. Though here they are more just for atmosphere as opposed to something that will murder you if you try to wander around during it. I never actually got a good chance to look around during an emission because I was always huddling in a random shed watching a drunk Russian plunk away on his guitar.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Toadsmash posted:

Nick Valentine is my favorite by far and I wish there were more of the agency quests. I know he's cliche as all hell, but I'm a sucker and I still love it.

The easter egg in the police department for his backstory was also a treat.

it's not really an easter-egg (I'm assuming you're talking about the We are done holotape), because he goes ahead and tells you all about it. I was kind of disappointed with Nick's personal quest, seemed out-of-place for the character

Paracausal
Sep 5, 2011

Oh yeah, baby. Frame your suffering as a masterpiece. Only one problem - no one's watching. It's boring, buddy, boring as death.

Internet Kraken posted:

The rad storms in Fallout 4 seem like they were inspired by the emissions in in STALKER. Though here they are more just for atmosphere as opposed to something that will murder you if you try to wander around during it. I never actually got a good chance to look around during an emission because I was always huddling in a random shed watching a drunk Russian plunk away on his guitar.

Yeah I freaked out a bit when I encountered my first radstorm, thought I was going to be fried, but no, like everything else it was just frill, could've been cool, glowing enemies could've gotten more powerful, or your rads could've gone through the roof. Meh.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

TG-Chrono posted:

Yeah I freaked out a bit when I encountered my first radstorm, thought I was going to be fried, but no, like everything else it was just frill, could've been cool, glowing enemies could've gotten more powerful, or your rads could've gone through the roof. Meh.

yeah. fast traveled to the glowing sea once, forgetting to put on power armor or a hazard suit. Well, nbd, it's only like 6 rads at virgil's cave

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Is there any way to stop my settlers from sprinting outside the settlement borders and down the road the moment they see a bloatfly? I built all these turrets for a reason goddamnit.

MohShuvuu
Aug 26, 2010

I eat ass.

Gonkish posted:

So if you hit up Goodneighbor before Diamond City (or probably just before learning about Nick's agency) you can go to the Memory Den and Irma will talk to you about the loungers and offer a trial run. You relive the whole abduction/spousal murder scene. Apparently you can only do this if you hit up Goodneighbor BEFORE Diamond City. So yeah. Not entirely sure it's worth it, but it's easy XP.

I was able to see this event after going to Diamond City. I believe you are able to view it up until a certain someone gives you the quest to go there.

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


MohShuvuu posted:

I was able to see this event after going to Diamond City. I believe you are able to view it up until a certain someone gives you the quest to go there.

Now my question is, can you finish Curie's quest after that? Or is that just a "Sorry you're not supposed to know Doctor Amari's a brain specialist until the story tells you straight up that this place you got to first specializes in brain stuff, even though common sense will tell you immediately that The Memory Den has a lot of neural machinery"?

Depends
May 6, 2006
no.

Toadsmash posted:

Nick Valentine is my favorite by far and I wish there were more of the agency quests. I know he's cliche as all hell, but I'm a sucker and I still love it.


I dumped Valentine as soon as I could get his perk because he was the worst companion for wandering in front of me randomly for no reason. He loved running around me to get to a new room first so he could tell me that he hoped he wasn't expected to find anything there or whatever his flavor chatter was. That plus not being able to put armor on him.

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McKilligan
May 13, 2007

Acey Deezy
Does building multiple artillery cannons actually increase the numbers of shells on an artillery strike, or should you only build one?

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