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JT Jag posted:This stinks of DNC fuckery to me, not that it's really necessary since Bernmentum tanked months ago Nah, this is legit NGP. Bernie & Hillary aren't the only ones who had their campaigns get tripped up on this, I was at a holiday party last night with some consultants and a few of them had to take calls from client campaigns dealing with this issue. It goes to the core issue of NGP. They (and databases as a whole) are about centralizing and organizing data so as to minimize redundancies. But the campaigns are in competition so they want the data individualized and split
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Not to rain on the Bernie haters parade but the version from a non lovely news org mentions nothing about an 'audit' (and neither does the buzzfeed article tbf) JT Jag posted:This stinks of DNC fuckery to me, not that it's really necessary since Bernmentum tanked months ago Actually it was Sanders national data director who wrongly accessed the data plus 3 others. Sanders campaign initially tried to play it off as "low level staffer". https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/677736055412510720 quote:Story coming shortly, but Sanders staffer who was fired over voter file breach was their data director. & 4 usernames from campaign ran searches while the Clinton data was exposed. WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f433_story.html
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It's good that instead of fading away quietly after dropping out, the insane Bernie people are going to construct a lost cause narrative that they are going to bring up at every opportunity for the next ten years.
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Cross posting from the primary thread: Donald Trump thinks it's OK to kill journalists and political opponents because, hey, that's what you've gotta do to be a great leader. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmDtodngtQI
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nachos posted:There's nothing wrong with posting buzzfeed FYI, their journalism is better than average now That's not so much a validation of buzzfeed as it is an indictment of journalism.
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Joementum posted:Cross posting from the primary thread: Donald Trump thinks it's OK to kill journalists and political opponents because, hey, that's what you've gotta do to be a great leader. Don't think that was the right link.
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Dec 18, 2015 15:19
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Joementum posted:Cross posting from the primary thread: Donald Trump thinks it's OK to kill journalists and political opponents because, hey, that's what you've gotta do to be a great leader. Looking forward to Assad's endorsement of Trump next after Putin's.
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Dec 18, 2015 15:20
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Is This The Beginning of the End For Donald Trump????
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Dec 18, 2015 15:22
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Donald Trump's CHAOS CANDIDACY is messing up my links! Here's the spot of him praising Putin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAT61aXRid8
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Dec 18, 2015 15:26
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Well, he's not wrong. Collateral Murder comes to mind!
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Dec 18, 2015 15:31
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Kafka Esq. posted:Well, he's not wrong. Collateral Murder comes to mind! From the guy who wants to actively target families, yes, he is wrong. Please provide a better solution to eliminating terrorist leadership than targeted drone strikes if you're going to call it collateral murder.
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Joementum posted:Donald Trump's CHAOS CANDIDACY is messing up my links! Here's the spot of him praising Putin.
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Joementum posted:Donald Trump's CHAOS CANDIDACY is messing up my links! Here's the spot of him praising Putin. two fascists liking each other. not a surprise.
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Dec 18, 2015 15:39
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The omnibus is passing easily in the House, despite Pelosi's many warnings that she couldn't guarantee the votes. Next up: the Senate around 10:30 and then it's the holidays.
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Dec 18, 2015 15:40
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Someone check on /r/sandersforpresident, for a libertarian hellscape Reddit sure loves Bernie (because he's not Hillary) 
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Someone check on /r/sandersforpresident, for a libertarian hellscape Reddit sure loves Bernie (because he's not Hillary) i have seen that too on twitter. Their are a decent amount of people on the left who think hillary is worse then any republican.(i am not exactly fond of her for various reasons) but they think sanders will somehow win the election in massive super landslide. i wish that were true. but i doubt it.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Someone check on /r/sandersforpresident, for a libertarian hellscape Reddit sure loves Bernie (because he's not Hillary) That was the first place I went. Apparently I'm not giving DWS the credit for being the Machiavellian mastermind that she is.
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zoux posted:That was the first place I went. Apparently I'm not giving DWS the credit for being the Machiavellian mastermind that she is. Compared to Dean she's still absolute poo poo though.
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It is probably a better question to ask "Was Sander's campaign also exposed? If so did Hillary's campaign do the same thing?" That is the only bit I could see being actually brushed under the rug.
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Lol, I've used both NGP VAN extensively and actually did work for the company. Does anyone have any more information on how Sanders was 'inadvertently' allowed access to Clinton's data? I am genuinely curious how that happened, it would almost certainly have had to come from NGP VAN themselves. It would also be pretty obvious to the Sanders campaign that the data they had was Clinton's though. 
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Devor posted:Obama's SOTU address is going to be the declaring of the war on vague unease from the piece below Completely off topic but that was amazing. Where the hell did that level of mindfuckery come from?
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zoux posted:That was the first place I went. Apparently I'm not giving DWS the credit for being the Machiavellian mastermind that she is. Sanders represents my political beliefs way better than Clinton and I plan on voting for him in the primaries, but obsessive Sanders supporters are doing more harm to his campaign than good. They spam the poo poo out of every online poll and comment section and they're more obsessed with attacking Clinton than highlighting what's good about Sanders. It goes against how Sanders himself is actually handling his campaign, I think he'd be disappointed if he saw the average /r/sandersforpresident post.
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SavageBastard posted:So after people realize Cruz is a creepy psycho, who is going to emerge as the actual Republican favorite? Well if the SA debate thread is any indication "Literally Hitler" is next up.
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Dec 18, 2015 16:08
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SavageBastard posted:So after people realize Cruz is a creepy psycho, who is going to emerge as the actual Republican favorite? I'm not sure why you think being a creepy psycho is going to keep him from winning. Cruz is gonna win this primary.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Augusta County, VA had to close all its schools tomorrow because of the volume of complaints and threats received after some right-wing rag posted that there was going to be a FORCED CONVERSION TO ISLAM (using the shahada as an example of Arabic calligraphy) at schools there. Speaking of Tennessee county up in arms about Islam indoctrination in middle school quote:“Williamson County parents and taxpayers have expressed concerns that some social-studies textbooks and supplemental materials in use in Tennessee classrooms contain a pro-Islamic/anti-Judeo- Christian bias,” one school-board member, Beth Burgos, wrote in a resolution. She questioned whether it’s right to test students on the tenets of Islam, along with the state and district’s learning standards related to religion. She also said the textbook should mention concepts like jihad and not portray Islam as a fundamentally peaceful religion. “How are our children to reconcile what they’re seeing happening in the Middle East when they’re not even exposed to the radical sects of Islam like ISIS?” she said at a working meeting in mid-October. (Burgos did not respond to multiple emails and phone calls requesting comment.)
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SavageBastard posted:So after people realize Cruz is a creepy psycho, who is going to emerge as the actual Republican favorite? I think you answered your own question
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Galactic North posted:Completely off topic but that was amazing. Where the hell did that level of mindfuckery come from? LF
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Mr Hootington posted:It is probably a better question to ask "Was Sander's campaign also exposed? If so did Hillary's campaign do the same thing?" An audit was performed and only one campaign was found to have wrongly accessed data. http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-12-18/sanders-campaign-fires-data-director-after-breach-of-clinton-files quote:The bug allowed users who already had access to voters’ files to search by and view—though not export, save, or act on—attributes added to those files by other campaigns. After the firm identified the bug, it began an audit and determined that "only one campaign took actions that could possibly have led to it retaining data to which it should not have had access," Trevelyan said in a statement.
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this_is_hard posted:Lol, I've used both NGP VAN extensively and actually did work for the company. Also, I just want to emphasize how monumentally hosed the Sanders campaign is without access to NGP VAN data. Any candidate, really, would be equally as hosed. When we used it during the 2012 cycle we outfitted all of our field staff and canvassers with iPods or iPads loaded with NGP VAN. Without that data being readily available, we literally had nothing on which to go by in order to canvass. No addresses, names, anything. We could have probably accessed the data we had already canvassed, but there's only so many times you can hit up the same people before it becoming redundant. Usually you try to do a 'second pass' shortly before election day. This includes phonebanking, demographic data, everything. You really have nothing without NGP VAN. It's actually kind of disconcerting how much the Democratic party relies solely on this one company.
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Mitt Romney posted:An audit was performed and only one campaign was found to have wrongly accessed data. Lol, they were probably viewing the data, copying it down and re-entering it as 'new' data on their end. 
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Mitt Romney posted:An audit was performed and only one campaign was found to have wrongly accessed data. That answers that then. I hope those idiots were diehard Berners and they realize they finished off the campaign. Well I'll still caucus for him unless it comes out he had a hand in it.
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this_is_hard posted:You really have nothing without NGP VAN. It's actually kind of disconcerting how much the Democratic party relies solely on this one company. Seriously, this_is_hard is spot on. The entirety of their voter data for the moment is whatever stacks of walk sheets were waiting to be entered into the VAN and thrown into the trash^W^W^W^Wsecurely destroyed at each campaign office. On the plus side, I bet there are some IT openings at NGPVAN for people who know QA! this_is_hard posted:Lol, they were probably viewing the data, copying it down and re-entering it as 'new' data on their end. You're wrong here though, at least according to the Bloomberg article. They didn't have any export permissions, and I doubt that the loving Data Director for a national campaign was sitting there like a punk hand-writing info and then re-uploading it for the whole ~day that this bug was in production for. I am not a book fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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I'm not seeing any primo crazy at /r/sandersforpresident, help a brother out
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Gail Wynand posted:I'm not seeing any primo crazy at /r/sandersforpresident, help a brother out There's a bunch of them posting (and upvoting) theories that the database "firewall" was deliberately lowered by DWS and Hillary to trap the Sanders campaign.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Someone check on /r/sandersforpresident, for a libertarian hellscape Reddit sure loves Bernie (because he's not Hillary) You're talking about the same kind of people who are/were Ron Paul fans and unironically wanted Paul to pick Dennis Kucinich as his VP because they get along and both stand by their principles, despite believing entirely different things. MC Nietzche posted:Well if the SA debate thread is any indication "Literally Hitler" is next up. Trump is already the front-runner.
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Shageletic posted:Speaking of To be fair, those textbooks are probably from 1987, so not mentioning ISIS really isn't their fault.
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Update on the Sanders data incident: https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2015/12/18/the-dnc-needs-to-restore-bernie-sanders-access-to-voter-data-fast/ quote:On the other hand, multiple accounts say that as many as four users associated with the Sanders campaign may have accessed the Clinton data. The Sanders campaign does not deny this; it says that those staffers did so at the behest of their boss, the staffer who has been fired. As you can see, our knowledge of what happened is pretty murky right now.
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Hey Joe, is Rubio in DC to "Use Every Procedural Aspect To Slow It Down & Force Changes"
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Mitt Romney posted:Update on the Sanders data incident:  For Hire Data Director Newly vacated
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