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thathonkey posted:Also who the gently caress is darth plagueis i cant honestly be expected to remember anything beyond the broad plot strokes of the prequel trilogy the insanely stupid reason anakin goes to the dark side is palpatine tells him a story about dark plagueis the wise who had the power to create life (implying anakin was created this way since he was a virgin birth) which would allow natalie portman to not die in childbirth like in anakin's nightmares.
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She always was better than everyone because of the force. Kylos dark side mind melt unlocked or awoke her conscious manipulation of it. Lots of things waking up in this movie.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:11
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Is plageius being a real person canon still. Or was he in the eu.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:13
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Groovelord Neato posted:the insanely stupid reason anakin goes to the dark side is palpatine tells him a story about dark plagueis the wise who had the power to create life (implying anakin was created this way since he was a virgin birth) which would allow natalie portman to not die in childbirth like in anakin's nightmares. It's also implied that Plagueis was Palpatine's master.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:13
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euphronius posted:Is plageius being a real person canon still. Or was he in the eu. He's mentioned in ROTS, but in sure there's a dumb book about it.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:14
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Yeah I mean besides Palps opera story.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:17
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BB-8 and R2D2 can both gently caress off, Chopper is the best Star Wars droid ever.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:22
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Aside from Gonk, right?
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Dec 19, 2015 11:24
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Groovelord Neato posted:the insanely stupid reason anakin goes to the dark side is palpatine tells him a story about dark plagueis the wise who had the power to create life (implying anakin was created this way since he was a virgin birth) which would allow natalie portman to not die in childbirth like in anakin's nightmares.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:37
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That's not how he fell to the dark side. That's how he switched political allegiance.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:38
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:My guess is that Rey is an XX clone of Palpatine which is why she's crazy powerful in The Force. Having her be Luke's daughter is way too obvious and you can't have a SW trilogy without Palpy playing a pivotal role. Best guess I've seen so far, especially with Ben Solo covering the "generational skywalker tale" stuff.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:38
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euphronius posted:Is plageius being a real person canon still. Or was he in the eu. There's an entire new EU book about him and Palpatine doing sith stuff together and it sounded retarded as hell. I heard they implied that their force experiments with life and death caused Anakins immaculate conception.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:40
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davecrazy posted:Rey just starts flying poo poo out of nowhere. Yeah that was weird but here's how I tried to rationalize it as a combo of: - She's a rebel pilot fangirl - teh force - She spent her whole life salvaging and studying the ships that it wasn't that hard
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Dec 19, 2015 11:43
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One of the interesting aspects of this film is watching people trying to discuss it and interpret what happened in it but having to rely on their memory and not being able to watch scenes on youtube or look up the script or wookieepedia pages to settle arguments. Lots of people struggling to make sense of things in the non-spoilered thread. 
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Dec 19, 2015 11:45
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I'm kind of happy there was no good explanation for why a certain stormtrooper felt the need to carry his anti lightsaber weapon into battle that particular day. Silly poo poo is OK in my sci fi.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:56
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Yeah that was weird but here's how I tried to rationalize it as a combo of: She had specific knowledge of all the ships in the junkyard and of the specific mods put into the millennium falcon. She might have never piloted one but she is no stranger to spacecraft. Also can't the same be said of Luke? Jedi are just natural pilots.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:56
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Luke could abuse animals from his t-16 which was good enough to let him fly an xwing, and also should have alerted CPS on Tatooine.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:58
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Anakin was a slave (with a cushy two-floor house and, oddly enough, time off work) and he could race pods that are usually handled by aliens or machines. Jedi are natural pilots. They're naturals everything except romance.
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Dec 19, 2015 12:01
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CelticPredator posted:He's mentioned in ROTS, but in sure there's a dumb book about it. Snowglobe of Doom posted:One of the interesting aspects of this film is watching people trying to discuss it and interpret what happened in it but having to rely on their memory and not being able to watch scenes on youtube or look up the script or wookieepedia pages to settle arguments. The prequels were out on dvd when the internet became what it is, so it was very easily stripped of its content and meme-ised into oblivion. People don't have to think about them because they can parrot what they heard someone funny say as an authority. Is that cynical of me? I dunno. If you run a forums search (or an archive search!) for given phrases from the RLM reviews, for example, 'steps in the pooopy', you get multiple verbatim results.
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Dec 19, 2015 12:03
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i'm on the edge of my seat waiting to find out why C3PO has a red arm. did i miss something or was that just random as gently caress? i know he mentions having it but of course doesn't explain why PS. i didnt think it was possible but BB-8 > R2D2. BB-8 owns. so cute :3
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Dec 19, 2015 12:03
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BB8 is basically Wall-E and I'm perfectly ok with it.
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Dec 19, 2015 12:05
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JJ should have stolen that one comics idea and made C3PO a bounty hunter droid
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Dec 19, 2015 12:06
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I'm kind of happy there was no good explanation for why a certain stormtrooper felt the need to carry his anti lightsaber weapon into battle that particular day. Silly poo poo is OK in my sci fi. Just because something can withstand a lightsaber, does not make it specifically an anti-lightsaber weapon. To me, it felt like some sort of advanced batton useable for various tasks. It just so happens that they made it strong enough to also withstand lightsabers. Kinda like how you could call any steel stick an anti-sword weapon.
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Hbomberguy posted:It works in the film's favour. People find themselves with the responsibility of forming an opinion! Yeah, as a guy who is old enough to remember watching movies before the internet became a thing I'm loving it. Batham posted:Just because something can withstand a lightsaber, does not make it specifically an anti-lightsaber weapon. The Stormtrooper was a First Order Riot Control officer and his weapon was a crowd suppression stun baton which just happened to also be effective against lightsabres. He also had a small riot control shield which he dropped right at the start of the fight. 
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Dec 19, 2015 12:18
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thathonkey posted:i'm on the edge of my seat waiting to find out why C3PO has a red arm. did i miss something or was that just random as gently caress? i know he mentions having it but of course doesn't explain why I may be wrong, but I swear that in one of the final scenes, where everyone's watching Rey/Chewie/R2-D2 lift off in the Millennium Falcon, I didn't think that either of C-3PO's arms were red. Thought it was weird at the time, and was wondering if I was just seeing wrong or what was going on.
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Dec 19, 2015 12:25
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C3PO is big boss and BB8 played him like a drat fiddle!
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Dec 19, 2015 12:32
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What if Snoke was some kind of dark side force ghost instead of a hologram?
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Dec 19, 2015 12:32
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Comstar posted:If destruction of the Republic planets was to be a Pearl Harbour attack, the 2nd movie would be Coral Sea, and the 3rd Midway? I hope it's more like code:
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Dec 19, 2015 12:33
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Tace Vim posted:What if Snoke was some kind of dark side force ghost instead of a hologram? He told the general to bring Kylo to him in a physical sense
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Tace Vim posted:What if Snoke was some kind of dark side force ghost instead of a hologram? Yeah it really felt like the reveal of the ultimate villain was way too 'easy' for a SW film so I wouldn't be surprised if Snoke was a fake out for something else. Auron posted:He told the general to bring Kylo to him in a physical sense That could be part of the fake out, there's several ways they could get around that. We won't know either way for sure until the next film. Edit: I hope Snoke is revealed to actually be Andy Serkis covered in mocap balls surrounded by cameras. They leaked his photo months and months ago, suckers!!! 
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Hbomberguy posted:The prequels were out on dvd when the internet became what it is, so it was very easily stripped of its content and meme-ised into oblivion. People don't have to think about them because they can parrot what they heard someone funny say as an authority. a lot of people did not like the prequels before they ever came out on dvd (even 14 year old me walked out of the phantom menace in denial because i'd just seen a terrible movie and didn't want to admit it). it's weird how rlm has become almost a reflexive defense of the prequels now.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:C3PO is big boss and BB8 played him like a drat fiddle! SUCH A LUST FOR TRANSLATION
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Dec 19, 2015 12:53
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If Rey was someone special, she wouldn't have been left alone on Jakku. Obi-Wan made sure to hand baby Luke to relatives, and he made a home for himself to keep a close eye on him.
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Groovelord Neato posted:a lot of people did not like the prequels before they ever came out on dvd (even 14 year old me walked out of the phantom menace in denial because i'd just seen a terrible movie and didn't want to admit it). it's weird how rlm has become almost a reflexive defense of the prequels now. I was 8-9 at the time the Phantom Menace was released and I distinctly remember how much I disliked the movie. I only really liked the light saber fights and especially recall how dumb I thought the space battle at the end was. Didn't stop me from absolutely loving that PS1 rpg/action game though.
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Kurzon posted:If Rey was someone special, she wouldn't have been left alone on Jakku. Obi-Wan made sure to hand baby Luke to relatives, and he made a home for himself to keep a close eye on him. The Very Important Character You Will Recognise played by Max von Sydow was nearby.
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In the intro scene we see a star destroyer silhouetted against a white planet. Troop pods are dropped, stormtroopers do their thing, Poe sends BB8 off and gets captured, etc., but that poo poo all happens on this new desert planet, Jakku. And if there's anything we know about the planets in Star Wars it's that the local geography of the few scenes we get to see close-up of any planet will be represented as covering the entire planet (Hoth, snow = all white; Tattooine, desert = all yellow; Coruscant, city = one big city; that one planet they go to that has Maz's bar = lake country planet; Bespin, cloud city = gas giant; Kamino, oceans n poo poo = water world, Dagobah, marshes = moldy green planet, etc.) There is so little diversity on all of these planets, but I digress. My point is, in that intro scene, was that star destroyer actually silhouetted against a perfectly aligned backside shot of the Starkiller base and we were all totally oblivious to that fact until the big exposition shot? Or am I just retarded for not realizing that in the first place? Or am I totally off and that's not at all what the first scene was let alone the same movie?
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Aaronicon posted:SUCH A LUST FOR TRANSLATION NABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The Very Important Character You Will Recognise played by Max von Sydow was nearby. This. Why else would he have a piece of the map to Luke?
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raditts posted:Gonna have another hearty lol at this part, because people gettin' mad about leading female characters who aren't weaklings never stops being funny. Luke Skywalker got jumped and owned by drunks, loving Jawas, and was hand held by Solo/Ben/Leia for the first two films. He was a great pilot and decent mechanic, which was established early on when the first thing we hear Luke talk about to his uncle is him being asked to join the Rebellion by former friends because he was such a natural talent. He was one member of a much larger group, whom they needed and he needed. Rey is never in peril or in distress, and the scenes that revolve around her seem to build no tension. Hell her purposefully vague backstory and introduction leave a lot to be desired. Which is weird because Finn is probaly the best Star Wars character outside of Vader and had a lot of interesting parallels with Ren (one is suffering the burden of a big legacy and family name to live up to, the other is suffering from having nothing like that and being considered a worthless tool), and seemed to resonate with the actual themes of the story. Also the romance was weirdly kiddy G rated in comparison to epic romances in serials. "Get on the ship, THEN KISS HER" would be a better moment than the weird "can we show a black man kissing a white woman?" vibe i got
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The Darth Plagueis novel is really the Emperor's origin story, and then basically Palpetine's behind the music of how he ended up leading the senate. I thought it was interesting enough for that reason, and it was written by James Luceno who in my opinion is one of the better EU writers There was so little to Plagueis that I was left wondering why they wouldn't let people write about him for so long, because if that's the story, while not bad, it doesn't seem like someone you can base something that's going to attract a lot of even Star Wars fans to it as a bigger media project (his portions are basically sci fi corporate intrigue). It does seem like a pretty natural thing to cover/redo at some point. E: it's also interesting in the sense that it is probably the last thing Lucas had some direct contribution to (as it was written as he was in the process of selling the company, and Luceno had "top level access" via Howard Roffman as opposed to the usual layers of editorship in the EU), so while he didn't write it if you to speculate ever "well how did Lucas see all the prequels coming together" it would probably be something at least slightly related to this. Rick fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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