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signalnoise posted:Can someone put together a list of rules that people often get wrong or overlook? I keep seeing stuff like people barrel rolling at the beginning of their movement and I'm all like WHOA you can do that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq_xpkL72U0
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Jumping into this, buying the old starter soon. Wanna get my TIE swarm on. Or at least a bunch of TIE fighters. Maybe not quite a swarm. Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 14:36
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Dec 19, 2015 17:23
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The Gate posted:5) you can only measure ranges in the shooting phase, and only from the ship that's firing next, OR you can measure ranges for an ability when it is relevant to check. No measuring shooting range or arcs in the movement phase. You can fudge this by trying to target lock ships that are out of range in the movement phase. Lets you check range to that ship and if another ship happens to be in line between you and the out of range ship, then well you know, poo poo happens.
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Dec 19, 2015 17:43
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Pyronic posted:This hurts me. You think that hurts? Try this. https://boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/49015/starting-2016-asmodee-will-operate-asmodee-north-a (Summary, FFG may have restricted online sales in the near future which may mean lower availability and no discount prices. We don't know for sure, but it sure doesn't look like good news.)
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Dec 19, 2015 18:07
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A while back someone posted an article that gave a breakdown of the competitive archetypes (I think after Worlds) and the price of the lists. I've been looking through the thread and can't seem to find it. Granted I may have missed it because I'm on my phone. Could someone post a link to that article? Thanks!
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Dec 19, 2015 18:35
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Indolent Bastard posted:You think that hurts? Try this. fortunately I get good prices from my LGS as long as its something they can get, (like Most Wanted being so fuckin hard to get)
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Dec 19, 2015 18:39
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The Gate posted:Common mistakes: What do you do when someone resolutely refuses to even bother learning the rules? There's one guy at my club who's been playing about as long as I have, but so far every single game I've seen him play he's just sort of... picked pilots and thrown upgrade cards at them until he hits 100 points - not given a gently caress about slots or legality - and then had not a loving scooby what they do. This afternoon I and our most experienced player must have explained PTL Jake Farrell to him at least twice every turn and it just didn't stick. On another note, I saw the film today. Definitely good, definitely Star Wars, but not the best film I've seen this year. It didn't quite hit the dizzy heights of excitement I've felt in some films, but that might just have been the low initial expectations influencing me. I'd see it again.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:45
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Pyronic posted:fortunately I get good prices from my LGS as long as its something they can get, (like Most Wanted being so fuckin hard to get) There's a game store in the town where I go to college that sells things at miniature market prices (1/3 off MSRP). I don't normally go down there to get games because it's a bit out of my way even on days I have classes (and I only have classes 3 days a week because it's almost an hour to get there), but if this change goes live and they cut off the online retailers, then I'll be their favorite new customer. The only reason I've been able to afford this expensive hobby is because the price point has been so attractive with discount retailers. It's going to hurt me if they take that away.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:58
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Indolent Bastard posted:You think that hurts? Try this. That would fit with a lot of the clearing house sales I've seen on armada this week.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:59
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thespaceinvader posted:What do you do when someone resolutely refuses to even bother learning the rules? Play other people. There's one guy who's terrible but insists that he's a great player and so good. I've pretty much stopped playing him cause it's like talking to a wall trying to give any advice.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:13
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Indolent Bastard posted:You think that hurts? Try this. Wow. GW tried this stunt for years. Let's see if it pays off!
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Dec 19, 2015 19:33
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From the film last night, I'd really love to see the two-seat Tie Fighter variant with a rear facing turret and Poe's Black X-Wing as the next set of expansions but that might be too many X-Wing/Tie fighters.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:56
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The Gate posted:Play other people. There's one guy who's terrible but insists that he's a great player and so good. I've pretty much stopped playing him cause it's like talking to a wall trying to give any advice. I try to avoid him, but he comes to EVERYTHING, and we do a decent amount of random matches. He's always insisting he's JUST HERE TO HAVE FUN OK and he JUST NEEDS TO LEARN THE RULES A BIT BETTER but... you've had just as long as I have, you've spent several times as much money, but... you just don't seem to have taken on board that this game is fun BECAUSE of the rules. Like, this time round, he brought a bunch of 3d terrain - which is great, it makes the game look better - but he got a little sulky when I brought out the rock templates anyway, because... how are you supposed to check for obstruction or land on a rock when it's a painted bit of pumice stone on a flight stand? I still used the things, but I balanced them on the normal rock templates. He's coming to all the tournaments in spring, and I just hope I'm not going to get matched against him D: Fortunately though he's moving away soon. Sushi in Yiddish posted:two-seat Tie Fighter variant with a rear facing turret
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Dec 19, 2015 20:01
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Spoiler tagging because TFA:AndyElusive posted:
I loving knew it.  Sushi in Yiddish posted:From the film last night, I'd really love to see the two-seat Tie Fighter variant with a rear facing turret and Poe's Black X-Wing as the next set of expansions but that might be too many X-Wing/Tie fighters. In a game called X-Wing you cannot have too many X-Wings. Since the TIE Fighter is the Yin to the X-Yang you cannot have too many TIE Fighters.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:14
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I could see A Force Awakens upgrade sets centered around Han's freighter for resistance/scum that has Rey and Finn pilots/crew and storm trooper transport for FO that has non-unique titles for TIE/FO that give it crew and turret upgrade slots. Both can be centered around making boarding actions against large ships they're in base to base contact with. You know, transfer an equipped crew card to an enemy ship that adds a Damage every turn effect.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:26
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yeah, the big giant freighter that eats the Falcon could be that huge Scum ship everyone's been wanting. On a vaguely related note, I'm hoping to apply to be a playtester soon. I could see that being hugely fun, albeit suuuuuper-difficult to keep from spoiling stuff...
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Dec 19, 2015 20:29
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thespaceinvader posted:I try to avoid him, but he comes to EVERYTHING, and we do a decent amount of random matches. If he doesn't know the rules and somehow insists on playing you then insist on using the rules correctly. Don't get huffy or lovely about it, just patiently explain each and every time he messes something up and keep doing it no matter how sulky he gets. No Bob, we're using the asteroid templates because that's how you check to see if a ship lands on one or goes through it or something, doesn't matter how nice you think those 3D rocks are, this isn't 40K. Bring a rulebook and the FAQ if you need to. As I see it either A). it'll finally start to sink in or B). he'll start avoiding you.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:39
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Indolent Bastard posted:You think that hurts? Try this. quote:Q: I want to sell products from Asmodee North America online, how do I do this? Sky isn't falling, etc. I'll continue to buy from my FLGS that sells at 10% off MSRP and has a rewards program.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:48
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I really don't understand that. "We won't sell our products to you if you're going to sell them online, unless you buy a ton of products from us." Why do they care what people who don't buy enough product to matter do with them?
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Dec 19, 2015 20:52
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Kai Tave posted:If he doesn't know the rules and somehow insists on playing you then insist on using the rules correctly. Don't get huffy or lovely about it, just patiently explain each and every time he messes something up and keep doing it no matter how sulky he gets. No Bob, we're using the asteroid templates because that's how you check to see if a ship lands on one or goes through it or something, doesn't matter how nice you think those 3D rocks are, this isn't 40K. Bring a rulebook and the FAQ if you need to. As I see it either A). it'll finally start to sink in or B). he'll start avoiding you. This is basically my strategy already.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:57
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Poopy Palpy posted:I really don't understand that. "We won't sell our products to you if you're going to sell them online, unless you buy a ton of products from us." Why do they care what people who don't buy enough product to matter do with them? Yeah it's odd. This only screws with small stores that also have online presence. However, I do know of people who have licenses and sell these things in small quantities online so they want to get rid of those too? IDGI. Could keep people or clubs with this sort of arrangement out but they'll buy from the next cheapest option anyway.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:11
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Poopy Palpy posted:I really don't understand that. "We won't sell our products to you if you're going to sell them online, unless you buy a ton of products from us." Why do they care what people who don't buy enough product to matter do with them? Up until now, they have been selling their products to everyone at the same price and under the same contract terms. This has allowed online stores with massive sales volumes to offer huge discounts of 30%+. What they're doing with this move is creating a special category for those retailers in their sales contract. Most likely those stores will get hit with higher prices and/or a maximum discount policy and/or other lovely clauses like that. They claim it's meant to help FLGS's be more competitive with online retailers. The cynic in me can't help but notice a fortuitous side effect of this benevolent policy: Asmodee ends up squeezing a bit more money out of the clients that buy the most from them and can probably afford it while mostly keeping their smaller clients happy. In the end, wangs will still be readily available in the internet, just more expensive. How much more expensive remains to be seen.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:44
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thespaceinvader posted:I'd be surprised if this doesn't come out eventually, though I'm not sure it actually looks different from the basic one. Poe's x-wing from the opening sequence with the hot-shot blaster would also have been cool. There were definitely two TIE Fighter variants. Normal TIE Fighters identical to the ones in the original trilogy, and the "special forces" ones. The SF ones look very different from the rear  , have beefy cog-things around the struts connecting the pod to the panels, and apparently have two crew.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:58
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I've had some $200 store credit at an LGS so I'll probably start using it next year. I imagine it's enough to keep playing for a couple years cuz I'll probably only need the Falcon with Rey pilot on it anyway.
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Dec 19, 2015 22:01
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Geisladisk posted:Normal TIE Fighters identical to the ones in the original trilogy The TIE/fo is not quite identical to the normal TIE. Well, the mini isn't, anyway.
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Dec 19, 2015 22:04
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thespaceinvader posted:The TIE/fo is not quite identical to the normal TIE. Well, the mini isn't, anyway. I'm holding the OG TIE and the FO TIE right now and I don't see any difference except the paintjob. e: the cockpit hatch on the FO TIE is slightly bigger, and the round engine-thing on the rear is very slightly wider. 
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Dec 19, 2015 22:06
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IIRC the struts are a slightly different shape as well. My point though, is that they're not exactly the same mini though, so... They're more similar than any other two minis in the game thus far, but they're not the same.
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Anyone else really hoping to see a miniature for Kylo Ren's Command Shuttle? Each scene it was in made me want to fly a little one around to blast Duct Tape fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 22:24
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thespaceinvader posted:The list I'm planning on running for tournaments next year is Oicunn with Predator, Mara, Vader, Isard, Dauntless, and Whisper with Rebel Captive, VI, ACD, FCS, for 99 points.
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Dec 19, 2015 22:25
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Duct Tape posted:Anyone else really hoping to see a miniature for Kylo Ren's Assault Shuttle? Each scene it was in made me want to fly a little one around to blast Yes it's flat and has a ton of surface area. You could fit a couple sweet murals on it.
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hoiyes posted:I'm running something similar with pretty good results. My advice though is rethink Dauntless, because the stress with prevent isards free evade action. If you drop it then the 3 point initiative bid will all but ensure whisper shoots before soontir et al. I'm rethinking the Decimator all over the place at the moment, I need some practice with the list. I'm currently sitting at this: "Whisper" (32) Veteran Instincts (1) Fire-Control System (2) Intelligence Agent (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) Rear Admiral Chiraneau (46) Veteran Instincts (1) Darth Vader (3) Gunner (5) Ysanne Isard (4) Total: 99 View in Yet Another Squad Builder I could drop to Kenkirk and put the Rebel Captive back in, which I think leverages Gunner better as the extra survivability will be strong, but I think Int Agent is very strong. As is Chiraneau, especially shooting at PS10. I also have half a mind to keeping things reasonably cheap, with this involving buying 3 large ships which is a bit painful but not awful. E: on another note, can anyone think of a trick to mask off areas of the Decimator? The greeblies are getting thoroughly in the way to masking for my dazzle camo scheme, and there's no freaking chance that I'll be able to freehand it well enough to look good.
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If you swap Isane for engine upgrade, it's what I'm using. I figure dodging arcs is a better defence than one evade token. Downfall is being too risky with whisper and her dying first. Chiraneau plowing in and doing as much as damage as possible is really fun, and against any soontir list you can just laugh in their face.
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I like the Engine Upgrade but I feel like it really needs PTL to be good, at which point you REALLY want Isard in there so you can PTL at the start of combat. I dunno, I'm going to have to pick something, I'll try to get a few games in against strong opponents on Wednesday and work out what I'm doing with it. E: and Kenkirk and Isard together actually makes the Decimator have a respectable amount of agility for a big ship when it's lost its shields, which you can make happen PDQ with Vader and Gunner.
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I find between chiraneaus ability and gunner he doesn't even need actions to be effective. Flipping an eyeball to a crit shooting at PS10 is so good.
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Dec 19, 2015 23:20
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Having seen TFA I think it's now entirely necessary FFG provides us a Rey pilot card for the Millenium Falcon, and her ability should be letting it do a tallon roll.
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I'm weak. I was Christmas shopping today and they were doing X-wing demos and now I have the starter kit, a TIE Bomber and two TIE elites because goddammit I love TIE Fighters so much they're so cool you guys. 
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So what's the main benefit in docking ships on the Gozanti?
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The Lord of Hats posted:I'm weak. I was Christmas shopping today and they were doing X-wing demos and now I have the starter kit, a TIE Bomber and two TIE elites because goddammit I love TIE Fighters so much they're so cool you guys. I just bought the Force Awakens core set today! Excited to start playing Wangs.
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CODChimera posted:So what's the main benefit in docking ships on the Gozanti? They can't be shot at until you deploy them (behind the enemy), I think.
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