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Raskolnikov38 posted:Well first I'll have to get some assets worth bequeathing. Take on a shitload of debt and bequeath everything to your nemesis
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Well first I'll have to get some assets worth bequeathing. Well sure, but before that happens living wills do things like "don't Terry Shiavo me" and "I want Clouds_ThemeMain_Theme_Final_Fantasy_VII(Orchestral_Version).mp3 played as I'm cremated "
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baw posted:This fact-check article with this lede "The Democratic candidates met for the third time, and stretched the facts again:" is infuriating once you read the article and compare it with the caliber of bullshit coming from the GOP side. The "truth is in the middle" media is pissing me off more than in previous election cycles because of just how big the bullshit gap between the parties is and how everyone is still desperately trying to avoid stating the obvious "Clinton said that the Republican presidential candidates “don’t want to raise the minimum wage.” But Rick Santorum has supported an increase." HAHAHAHA what a total crock of poo poo.
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Dec 20, 2015 23:34
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Unzip and Attack posted:"Clinton said that the Republican presidential candidates “don’t want to raise the minimum wage.” But Rick Santorum has supported an increase." That's the best kind of correct.
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Logikv9 posted:Carter doesn't deserve this Jobe had things turn out right in the end, right? 
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Dec 21, 2015 00:12
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Poor Carter, man just beat brain cancer and then this happens.
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fosborb posted:Well sure, but before that happens living wills do things like "don't Terry Shiavo me" and "I want Clouds_ThemeMain_Theme_Final_Fantasy_VII(Orchestral_Version).mp3 played as I'm cremated " Just hope they don't download it from Limewire or who knows what you'll get. But yeah I need to make a will. And get all my beneficiaries in order for retirement accounts and life insurance and whatnot. When does the fiduciary rule go into place for retirement advisors? The omnibus bill was the last stand to kill it and that rider didn't make it.
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Dec 21, 2015 00:39
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Epic High Five posted:There's any number of things that can have you feeling a bit unwell and kill you within 12 hours. The staph that is omnipresent on your body and in your life is stupidly lethal if it gets into your blood and spreads, for example. I... was better off not knowing this. 
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Dec 21, 2015 00:42
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I love Jay Pharoah's impression of Ben Carson on SNL
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Unzip and Attack posted:"Clinton said that the Republican presidential candidates “don’t want to raise the minimum wage.” But Rick Santorum has supported an increase." I'm looking forward to a GOPer saying something fundamentally untrue like "It rains ice cream and Mountain Dew in February" to have it fact-checked as somewhat true.
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Dec 21, 2015 00:49
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Paradoxish posted:I've never met a real life libertarian who actually gave a poo poo about efficiency, or honestly who was even willing to acknowledge that the purpose of the economy is to distribute resources. Inefficiencies are meaningless to someone who thinks economic policies are things you should get ideologically attached to. I agree that in practice libertarians value ideology over reality but they do still tend to cling to efficiency at least in their rhetoric. "Markets are more efficient, government waste" etc.
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Dec 21, 2015 00:57
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I'm looking forward to a GOPer saying something fundamentally untrue like "It rains ice cream and Mountain Dew in February" to have it fact-checked as somewhat true. We rate this statement Mostly True. "It rains ice ... in February"
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mandatory lesbian posted:so only 4% of whatever counts as "gun violence" doesn't end in someone dying? My guess would be that the 4% is a combination of deaths that can't be definitively ruled suicide or homicide due to lack of evidence, gun related accidents such as a loaded gun falling and misfiring, guns fired by animals and infants, etc. Still seems like too large a percent for that though.
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hangedman1984 posted:I love Jay Pharoah's impression of Ben Carson on SNL Still not sleep-inducing enough. I would buy recordings of Carson speaking as an insomnia cure any day of the week.
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shrike82 posted:poo poo, Jimmy Carter's grandson just passed away. He's had a tough year... My first reaction was "The one who got the Romney 47% video out to the media?  " but no this was another grandson.
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Dec 21, 2015 02:25
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You may remember a story in 2013 about a rich white kid in Texas who managed to get only probation after killing four and severely injuring three other people (one paralyzed) in a drunken car wreck. The story went viral because his attorney successfully argued to the judge that he was suffering from 'affluenza' (meaning because of his wealth he didn't understand the severity of his actions). Well, that kid has apparently violated his probation by drinking at a party and is now on the run, and the US Marshals believe he's attempting to flee the country. Presumably he's trying to get into Mexico if he isn't there already. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...campaign=buffer So the good news is that when the Marshals eventually find this kid he's going away for awhile.
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Dec 21, 2015 02:40
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FlamingLiberal posted:You may remember a story in 2013 about a rich white kid in Texas who managed to get only probation after killing four and severely injuring three other people (one paralyzed) in a drunken car wreck. The story went viral because his attorney successfully argued to the judge that he was suffering from 'affluenza' (meaning because of his wealth he didn't understand the severity of his actions). In what way is his affluenza defense no longer relevant? Hell, he committed a multiple homicide and faced very little consequences. If anything, that defense is even stronger this time around.
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Dec 21, 2015 02:50
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Salvor_Hardin posted:I agree that in practice libertarians value ideology over reality but they do still tend to cling to efficiency at least in their rhetoric. "Markets are more efficient, government waste" etc. I find that that's just the opening gambit. Time and again in the libertarian thread, we get confronted by "libertarian policy X, works better than the current system because markets area always more efficient," and when we reply with evidence that X, or things indistinguishable from it, have been tried before, don't work better than the current system, and also invariably lead to diminished standards of living and/or mass death, the next rejoinder is "well it doesn't matter which works better from a practical stand point, policy X is more moral because it eliminates taxation which is unprovoked state aggression PUT DOWN THE GUNS GUYS!!!" In other words, efficiency arguments ultimately become unimportant when they fail to work in favor of libertarian solutions, at which point they fall back on (arbitrary, leading) morality arguments.
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Dec 21, 2015 02:56
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The way I want to die is to be run over by a wealthy white kid and then have a judge look at my name and my status [deceased] and think,'hm, yes, I suppose boys will be boys after all'. Gonna go rewrite my will.
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Shifty Pony posted:When does the fiduciary rule go into place for retirement advisors? The omnibus bill was the last stand to kill it and that rider didn't make it. Really depends on the Department of Labor. First half of 2016, certainly.
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Dec 21, 2015 03:18
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FlamingLiberal posted:You may remember a story in 2013 about a rich white kid in Texas who managed to get only probation after killing four and severely injuring three other people (one paralyzed) in a drunken car wreck. The story went viral because his attorney successfully argued to the judge that he was suffering from 'affluenza' (meaning because of his wealth he didn't understand the severity of his actions). Between Shkreli getting arrested and this dipshit kid on the run, it's been a good week for cosmic justice
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Dec 21, 2015 03:56
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Cops have a guy on the ground One cop shoots the other cop Shot cop plants a gun Shot cop then kills the person who did not shoot him https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I-Xg-Ga1a8
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Rexicon1 posted:Between Shkreli getting arrested and this dipshit kid on the run, it's been a good week for cosmic justice  Kurt_Cobain posted:Cops have a guy on the ground  This thread is a drat roller coaster
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Kurt_Cobain posted:Cops have a guy on the ground it's ok though because he was a known gang member. cosmic justice still intact!
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Dec 21, 2015 04:21
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Kurt_Cobain posted:Cops have a guy on the ground FOR FUCKS SAKE I DIDNT MEAN TO JINX IT
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Epic High Five posted:Ican't watch that right now, is it as horrible as it sounds like it is It's even worse. After he's been shot a bunch they do their best to make sure he won't survive the shooting while threatening eyewitnesses of their murder.
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Epic High Five posted:Ican't watch that right now, is it as horrible as it sounds like it is 'What's the address?' Gets told 25 times 'What's the address!?'
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Dec 21, 2015 04:37
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Kurt_Cobain posted:Cops have a guy on the ground gently caress's sake.
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FlamingLiberal posted:You may remember a story in 2013 about a rich white kid in Texas who managed to get only probation after killing four and severely injuring three other people (one paralyzed) in a drunken car wreck. The story went viral because his attorney successfully argued to the judge that he was suffering from 'affluenza' (meaning because of his wealth he didn't understand the severity of his actions). The judge did not buy the "affluenza" defense. She gave him the same chance she gives all kids caught drunk driving the first time and did the right thing. It's a long, complicated story. The fact that this idiot learned nothing and violated his probation is not surprising in the least. Apparently his mom has been a huge enabler and is the one trying to flee the country with him. I hope she gets jail time too.
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Ender.uNF posted:The judge did not buy the "affluenza" defense. She gave him the same chance she gives all kids caught drunk driving the first time and did the right thing. It's a long, complicated story. The fact that this idiot learned nothing and violated his probation is not surprising in the least. She gave him a chance even though he committed quadruple homicide too? Sounds like a pretty short story of a lovely judge making a bad decision. Rick_Hunter fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Ender.uNF posted:The judge did not buy the "affluenza" defense. She gave him the same chance she gives all kids caught drunk driving the first time and did the right thing. It's a long, complicated story. The fact that this idiot learned nothing and violated his probation is not surprising in the least. Oh word? Did the murder of 4 people have no impact on her "boys will be boys ruling"?
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Oh word? Did the murder of 4 people have no impact on her "boys will be boys ruling"? Given that historically she's tried to go with mandatory rehabilitation plus probation (which is what the affluenza kid was sentenced to) for people who killed as juveniles, including killings that were straight up intentional murder as opposed to negligent homicide... loving judges, thinking kids deserve second chances.
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Kalman posted:Given that historically she's tried to go with mandatory rehabilitation plus probation (which is what the affluenza kid was sentenced to) for people who killed as juveniles, including killings that were straight up intentional murder as opposed to negligent homicide... And now he's fled the country after allegedly violating his parole. Does he deserve a third chance now?
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Dec 21, 2015 05:42
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:And now he's fled the country after allegedly violating his parole. Does he deserve a third chance now? Nope. Violating paroles a pretty great way to say "didn't want that second chance anyway." Yeah, she never gave anyone other than white kids a second chance. Eh wait no she pushed for rehabilitation for a black teen who punched a dude leading to his death. (He wound up in prison because rehab programs refused to accept him, but everyone - victim's parents included - was pretty clear on what she wanted to see happen.) A lot of juvenile court judges will do just about anything to keep kids out of the adult justice system. That's probably a good thing, even when they're rich white kids.
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