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baw posted:Yeah if it wasn't for Hillary then the GOP wouldn't have been racist towards Obama Well yeah, she created the idea that he's black.
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Dec 22, 2015 14:56
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lol if you think the Birther bullshit started with Hillary.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I too remember how the GOP was a big fan of Obama and never once tried to sabotage literally everything he's tried to accomplish until about a year ago when suddenly they developed serious reservations about his foreign policy based solely on his perceived failures to respond to the ongoing Syrian Civil War (because heaven knows they'd not hulked the gently caress out over anything else he did or didn't do prior to that point). 
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Quote of the nobody cares, “I always want to help my country where I can, but you don’t want to embark on a suicide mission. I’m not ready for a third-party run until we have a complete collapse of the Republican Party that I can still believe in.” ~ Jon Huntsman.
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Dec 22, 2015 15:11
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Dec 22, 2015 15:12
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Anosmoman posted:How should he have handled Syria differently? Should have been handled the same way Clinton handled Iraq. 
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Anosmoman posted:How should he have handled Syria differently? been less black
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Anosmoman posted:How should he have handled Syria differently? This is the same party that heavily criticized Obama for not intervening in Libya and overnight changed their position when it turned out Obama was going to intervene.
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Dec 22, 2015 15:25
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Mitt Romney posted:This is the same party that heavily criticized Obama for not intervening in Libya and overnight changed their position when it turned out Obama was going to intervene. They did the same for Syria. A big part of why he didn't go any further when they "crossed the red line" was because the Republicans threatened to cut him off in congress. This is also the same party that has had ample opportunity to weigh in on the middle east situation by having a debate over an authorization of force, but have continually ran the hell away from it for political expediency. Is it true that the administration could have handled Syria and Iraq differently? Sure. But when the Republicans are couching their critique in the tired line that Obama pulled out of Iraq "too soon," it basically tells you they're not being honest and don't really want to have debate on the issue. There own Syria proposals aren't even that different from what we're already doing. Ted Cruz's plan to defeat ISIS: "We will."
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I too remember how the GOP was a big fan of Obama and never once tried to sabotage literally everything he's tried to accomplish until about a year ago when suddenly they developed serious reservations about his foreign policy based solely on his perceived failures to respond to the ongoing Syrian Civil War (because heaven knows they'd not hulked the gently caress out over anything else he did or didn't do prior to that point). Well, it's true that the party phillosophically opposed to much of that Obama wanted to accomplish tried to fight him on those things - surprised as the left seemed to be about that fact. Note that racism was not brought up in the preceding sentence.
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Mitt Romney posted:This is the same party that heavily criticized Obama for not intervening in Libya and overnight changed their position when it turned out Obama was going to intervene. If the last fourteen years have taught me anything it's that people's principles are highly malleable.
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Mr Hootington posted:I'd love to, but when they start talking about "the Mexicans", "those people from Chicago", and "the Muslims" I get real itchy. What...the Mob? Like, Al Capone? I'm not sure what they're after there.
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Radish posted:If the last fourteen years have taught me anything it's that people's principles are highly malleable. Oh no they are very consistent they just lie or aren't aware of what their actual principles are.  Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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greatn posted:Yeah he refuses to take ISIS seriously that's why they've lost 40% of their land in the last couple months and they're leaders have been killed multiple times. How much land has ISIL lost in Nigeria recently?
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Nevvy Z posted:Oh no they are very consistent they just lie or aren't aware of what their actual principles are. You have to put the direct link into the img tags.
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My Imaginary GF posted:How much land has ISIL lost in Nigeria recently? How much land has Daesh had in Nigeria?
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jackofarcades posted:lol if you think the Birther bullshit started with Hillary. http://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/its-official-obama-born-in-the-usa/ quote:This claim was first advanced by diehard Hillary Clinton supporters as her campaign for the party’s nomination faded I'm sure it was just some disaffected hillaryis44 types and had nothing at all to do with the campaign itself!
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Anosmoman posted:How should he have handled Syria differently? Restore the French mandate. The Larch posted:How much land has Daesh had in Nigeria? Boko Haram is an ISIL affiliate, so lots.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm sure it was just some disaffected hillaryis44 types and had nothing at all to do with the campaign itself! ...right
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Nevvy Z posted:Oh no they are very consistent they just lie or aren't aware of what their actual principles are. Bergdhal was pretty much where an semblance of respect I had for Republicans totally evaporated.
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Luigi Thirty posted:http://www.wowktv.com/story/30802377/food-program-adds-requirements-in-9-west-virginia-counties You can thank DWS for not prioritizing state legislators at all.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the nobody cares, “I always want to help my country where I can, but you don’t want to embark on a suicide mission. I’m not ready for a third-party run until we have a complete collapse of the Republican Party that I can still believe in.” ~ Jon Huntsman. *Arkane sighs and walks away*
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Nevvy Z posted:Oh no they are very consistent they just lie or aren't aware of what their actual principles are. Yeah it's almost like there was a missing piece of information that guy didn't have. Probably though his principles changed, sure.
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Crowsbeak posted:You can thank DWS for not prioritizing state legislators at all. What has she been prioritizing?
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TheDisreputableDog posted:http://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/its-official-obama-born-in-the-usa/ So you trust the fact checkers to say that it came from Clinton supporters but you don't trust them to say that it didn't come from the campaign itself?
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Radish posted:What has she been prioritizing?
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 What True Conservative™ will stop the Head Start menace?
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Radish posted:What has she been prioritizing? Failure.
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Radish posted:What has she been prioritizing? DWS.
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Crowsbeak posted:You can thank DWS for not prioritizing state legislators at all. I don't think, as much as I'd like, you can blame a Republican legislature for that. Dumb as those idiots are, this isn't coming from them. Here's a better article on it: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20151221/work-training-relinked-to-wv-food-stamps Work requirements for SNAP aren't new. They also picked the 9 counties where it won't be nearly as bad.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:They did the same for Syria. A big part of why he didn't go any further when they "crossed the red line" was because the Republicans threatened to cut him off in congress. First - no one forced Obama to make the red line pledge to begin with. "No dumb wars" himself decided to start saber rattling all on his own! Second - lol at the idea that Obama is like "well, I need congressional approval to do <anything>, looks like I'm sunk." He only hides behind congress when it comes to things that aren't politically expedient, like owning military action or closing gitmo.
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Probably someone already posted it, but this story reminds me of that bizaare story about him in the Times about him being deposed quote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/29/us/politics/depositions-show-donald-trump-as-quick-to-exaggerate-and-insult.html?_r=0
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yeah it's almost like there was a missing piece of information that guy didn't have. Did the missing piece of information involve a former squadmates that hated Berghdal, claimed that if he'd found him he would have murdered Berghdal, and personally blamed Berghdal for the deaths of every soldier who died afterwards?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Did the missing piece of information involve a former squadmates that hated Berghdal, claimed that if he'd found him he would have murdered Berghdal, and personally blamed Berghdal for the deaths of every soldier who died afterwards? Maybe - I can only assume the administration didn't have this information either when they did an end zone dance after the exchange.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Second - lol at the idea that Obama is like "well, I need congressional approval to do <anything>, looks like I'm sunk." He only hides behind congress when it comes to things that aren't politically expedient, like owning military action or closing gitmo. If going to war in Syria was the right thing to do why didn't your glorious Republicans in Congress give him an AUMF?
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Luigi Thirty posted:http://www.wowktv.com/story/30802377/food-program-adds-requirements-in-9-west-virginia-counties West Virginia is gonna burn into the ground. Doesn't some counties only have a median income of 10k? I remember reading some article about the insane scheme they have where they flip EBT for cash buying soda
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Kilroy posted:Nah, he wanted an AUMF so Republicans couldn't gently caress him over on Syria later on. Little did he know they were going to do that anyway. Obama was too afraid of Republicans to do the right thing in foreign policy. Perhaps he should have resigned, if he was unable to do his job effectively and in the best interest of America out of fear. Instead, he damaged America and our standing with the world by making everyone question our willingness to follow through on their red lines. A true leader knows when to step aside rather than hurt their nation. Unfortunately for America, Obama is not a true leader with executive experience.
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CortezFantastic posted:West Virginia is gonna burn into the ground. Doesn't some counties only have a median income of 10k? I remember reading some article about the insane scheme they have where they flip EBT for cash buying soda None of the counties they're talking about are anywhere close to that. And /again/ work requirements for SNAP are literally nothing new and really only got "shelved" around 2011--ish at the height of the recession. They picked the 9 counties that have really low unemployment, low number of people on SNAP, and higher median income. Also: flipping EBT for cash is a pretty old scheme.
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Maybe - I can only assume the administration didn't have this information either when they did an end zone dance after the exchange. They certainly did, his squad was under a gag order to keep them from Jane Fondaing him by releasing information that would be used to exploit a POW.
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