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I want Hillary to get elected and, in lieu of a victory speech, proceed to do the Sideshow Bob cackle laugh for five minutes on national television.
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Talmonis posted:I want Hillary to get elected and, in lieu of a victory speech, proceed to do the Sideshow Bob cackle laugh for five minutes on national television. More along the lines of the Simpsons Russia -> USSR sign flip.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:31
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Talmonis posted:I want Hillary to get elected and, in lieu of a victory speech, proceed to do the Sideshow Bob cackle laugh for five minutes on national television. If we still have a Republican congress it'll be more like Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes for 5 minutes.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:32
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haveblue posted:If we still have a Republican congress it'll be more like Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes for 4 years.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:33
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haveblue posted:If we still have a Republican congress it'll be more like Sideshow Bob stepping on rakes for 5 minutes. Well that's the projected administration, yes. But the victory cackle could be glorious. Might even cause a few aneurisms.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:34
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Where does Obama get off thinking he has power and authority huh? Good thing the next republican president will issue an executive order saying Obama smells and no more homework!
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Dec 22, 2015 19:34
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CommieGIR posted:Its more difficult to criticize when: The Executive Order is largely being used to help a humanitarian crises instead of massive war powers Oh so Obama meant to drop much needed supplies on his own citizens instead of drone missiles. Okay that makes more sense.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:34
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Oh so Obama meant to drop much needed supplies on his own citizens instead of drone missiles. Man, if Obama killing one American citizen actively engaged in war against the United States makes you this angry, wait until you learn about this guy named Abraham Lincoln.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:36
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The search for Obama's Katrina continues....
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Oh so Obama meant to drop much needed supplies on his own citizens instead of drone missiles. I mean really if you're supposed to be on the Fiscally Repsonsible side here, you should be all about drone striking the traitors who joined with terror groups rather than pay for another ground invasion. Much less expensive...unless of course, your aim is to enrich your friends through no-bid contracts after all. For parity, "Obama" should use his dedicated propaganda arm to infer that all Republicans who don't toe the line on Syria and Iraq are traitors and "Want the Terrorists to Win". Then things might start to smell like 2003.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:40
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Oh so Obama meant to drop much needed supplies on his own citizens instead of drone missiles. Exactly. Money saved. What are you bitching about, you Fiscally Responsible Republican?
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Dec 22, 2015 19:44
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Obama is the new GW Bush, what an rear end in a top hat.
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CommieGIR posted:Its more difficult to criticize when: The Executive Order is largely being used to help a humanitarian crises instead of massive war powers, and in the face of a Congress that constantly is throwing tantrums and saying 'No' to even the most reasonable compromises. Iraq war prevented the genocide of the Yazidis and the rise of ISIL. Obama withdrew too soon, and didn't save enough religious minority lives.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:45
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Aurubin posted:Ignoring the fact that this was written by David Frum, I liked this article about modern Republicanism, if you've got a moment. That's a good long article. Lots of quotable stuff. My takeaway was that Frum danced all around the issue and never came right out and said it: the GOP party elite are losing their grip on their base, they can't continue to lie and abuse their base and expect them to fall in line and vote for a Wall Street stooge. The problem is, they can do it and Frum's ulitimate solution is that the GOP is just going to change the rules of the game at the state level to allow them to do it. it's depressing but true.
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Talmonis posted:For parity, "Obama" should use his dedicated propaganda arm to infer that all Republicans who don't toe the line on Syria and Iraq are traitors and "Want the Terrorists to Win". Then things might start to smell like 2003. You mean like after Sandy Hook where he was like "if we can save even one child's life, we have to pass gun control"
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Dec 22, 2015 19:50
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TheDisreputableDog posted:You mean like after Sandy Hook where he was like "if we can save even one child's life, we have to pass gun control" And nothing happened you fuckwit, somehow we stomached toddlers getting gunned down and the GOP just smiled, nodded, said they'd pray and did gently caress all.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:51
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TheDisreputableDog posted:You mean like after Sandy Hook where he was like "if we can save even one child's life, we have to pass gun control" Just 
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CommieGIR posted:And nothing happened you fuckwit, somehow we stomached toddlers getting gunned down and the GOP just smiled, nodded, said they'd pray and did gently caress all. Hey man, don't pray-shame. Haven't you ever watched a televangical show? It's powerful stuff.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:52
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Hey man, don't pray-shame. Haven't you ever watched a televangical show? It's powerful stuff. It certainly makes wallets grow. Praise Jesus.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:54
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CommieGIR posted:And nothing happened you fuckwit, somehow we stomached toddlers getting gunned down and the GOP just smiled, nodded, said they'd pray and did gently caress all. Yes, the right doesn't let inflammatory demagoguery and fearmongering strip our constituents of the basic rights they hold dear
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Dec 22, 2015 19:56
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yes, the right doesn't let inflammatory demagoguery and fearmongering strip our constituents of the basic rights they hold dear Why? It worked wonders for Bush. And you guys didn't bitch then. Hell, a lot of times you praised it in the name of security and defending freedom. And it looks like its going to do wonders for Trump too. But, oh wait, as long as the 2nd is safe, it doesn't matter. Gotcha. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Dec 22, 2015 19:57
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yes, the right doesn't let inflammatory demagoguery and fearmongering strip our constituents of the basic rights they hold dear ...starting now.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:58
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yes, the right doesn't let inflammatory demagoguery and fearmongering strip our constituents of the basic rights they hold dear Blacks, Muslims, Hispanics, etc. are not constituents of the Right. Good and accurate post.
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Dec 22, 2015 19:58
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yes, the right doesn't let inflammatory demagoguery and fearmongering strip our constituents of the basic rights they hold dear Let me know when Republicans are cool with letting me marry a man of my choosing and not actively campaigning pledging to undo that SCOTUS decision.  Or are currently led by a dude who wants to intern all Muslims and seconded by a dude who goes "Well maybe not the best idea, but you know, it ain't wrong."
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Dec 22, 2015 20:04
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:Oh please, Obama was a decent president on domestic issues but his foreign policy has been completely horseshit. The red line nonsense is indefensible if you aren't a complete sycophant, and it's been a series of minor blunders since then. I think GW's administration was the wake up call, that US efficacy abroad through military means is, and has for a long time, been a mirage. I think you're somewhat idealistic about the ability of American power to reshape the world in any sort of positive direction. Getting together something like a climate change compact is about the extent of American influence, and barely that. The idea that the US had the ability to reshape the ME and change the underlying dynamics and fissures, without just smashing whatever was there until even more instability welled up, is extremely foolish.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:06
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CommieGIR posted:Why? It worked wonders for Bush. And you guys didn't bitch then. I'm just pointing out that both sides engage in rhetoric like this despite your claim to the contrary.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:06
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Yeah abuse of a more centralized Executive used to send the left into convulsions. Actually there WAS widespread hope that the executives powers would be scaled back and then initial, widespread disappointment that, that did not happen. You're right though, something DID happen in that Obama's presidency has been mired by a historically dysfunctional legislative body. This is personal opinion but one which I think is fairly realistic; when one branch of government is refusing to govern, the others must do so by any measure within their power. The division of government isn't just for limitation purposes, but balance. Unfortunately, by law, the Congress is by far the most powerful. Boon fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Dec 22, 2015 20:08
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm just pointing out that both sides engage in rhetoric like this despite your claim to the contrary. Remind me again how much Freedoms you are willing to give up in the name of defending freedom as long as its not the 2nd amendment, and how many minorities you are okay with exploiting as long as its not rural white Americans. Thanks in Advance.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:08
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm just pointing out that both sides engage in rhetoric like this despite your claim to the contrary. Gun laws don't "take away your rights." Nor was Obama calling for all guns to be made illgeal. He was asking for common sense gun control measures. Your constitutional rights are and can be abridged to various degrees and SCOTUS has continually said that's true. Weird how you only seem to care about this with the Second and Obama. Boon posted:Actually there WAS widespread hope that the executives powers would be scaled back and then initial, widespread disappointment that, that did not happen. Almost as if Republicans stopped playing by the established rules of how Washington works for political gain. But on that point: I also never really complained about Bush's executive actions. They're part of the modern presidency and a side-effect of a polarized legislature that has struggled to pass basic funding, let alone enact meaningful legislation despite majority support for it BI NOW GAY LATER fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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If he's a troll then he's probably the best I've seen in here for quite some time. If he's not then he's not even bothering to address any of the points you all are making and should just be ignored.
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On Terra Firma posted:If he's not then he's not even bothering to address any of the points you all are making and should just be ignored. No no, that fits the general conservative method to debating.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Weird how you only seem to care about this with the Second and Obama. It's because Obama is black and guns are fetishized. Like seriously. That's the only rational way to explain the rights actions.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:15
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I love the whole "We should have started bombing Syria early and removed Assad" tangent. So which horse should the US have backed? The Al Nusra Front (Al Quaeda butt-buddies)? One of the myriad little ethnic gangs under the Daesh umbrella? Just bomb Assad and let ISIL take over after giving the USAF a high five for the bitching air cover? Some transplant piddly 'democratic' front entity destined to crumble within a year if it ever got to the top, a la Ahmed Chalabi?
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Dec 22, 2015 20:15
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CommieGIR posted:Remind me again how much Freedoms you are willing to give up in the name of defending freedom as long as its not the 2nd amendment, and how many minorities you are okay with exploiting as long as its not rural white Americans. No. Stop. You do not get to claim the moral high ground when your president targeted and killed a Muslim American (also his teenage son - nbd) just because he was on a list somewhere. The Secretary of State when this decision was made (and has defended it) is now your front runner for President. Your whining and protestations are partisan and fake - clean your own house.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:22
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TheDisreputableDog posted:No. If you join a terrorist organization like al qaeda, you're not American and deserve to be treated as an enemy combatant.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:27
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All The GOP Except for Rand Paul posted:If you join a terrorist organization like al qaeda, you're not American and deserve to be treated as an enemy combatant.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:29
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My Imaginary GF posted:If you join a terrorist organization like al qaeda, you're not American and deserve to be treated as an enemy combatant. Oh man does this make me conservative because I genuinely agree with this.
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A Winner is Jew posted:It's because Obama is black and guns are fetishized. What if he were gunmetal black?
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