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If everyone donated $5 to Hasbro today, our donation drive would be over. Please donate.
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please. think of the wizards
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Dec 22, 2015 20:57
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ThePeavstenator posted:maybe don't act like a giant pissbaby when the people you exploit don't do the exact thing you want. Especially since that exact thing - stopping a social media explosion and containing information - is really loving hard. If there had been an attempt to censor the tweet then we'd probably just have ran into the Streisand Effect and people would find out anyway. I'm guessing containment's what they wanted, since suspending someone for tweeting about it once it's already out there is either "idiot, you were supposed to conceal it not spread it more!" or a base temper tantrum that can't not look bad and I'd like to hope the company has a rudimentary comprehension of PR.
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Dec 22, 2015 20:57
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So what is the likelyhood/upshot of someone like SCG running an unsanctioned event if they can't find a judge for a region? Is that just a non-starter?
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Dec 22, 2015 20:59
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:the company has a rudimentary comprehension of PR. Snacksmaniac posted:Hasbro is an American multinational toy and board game company. It is one of the largest toy makers in the world. They're trying to stop people from loving with their marketing plans. Fine, then stop pretending like you care about the community.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:00
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odiv posted:So what is the likelyhood/upshot of someone like SCG running an unsanctioned event if they can't find a judge for a region? Gotta get those sweet, sweet planeswalker points to redeem for those...uh...
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Dec 22, 2015 21:01
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seems like a good time to remind everyone that you should play unreserved instead of wotc nonsense: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3756523
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Dec 22, 2015 21:02
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odiv posted:So what is the likelyhood/upshot of someone like SCG running an unsanctioned event if they can't find a judge for a region? scg actually pays judges for some of their events like, american dollars 
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Dec 22, 2015 21:03
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Magic is a game that is profitable in spite of itself. There's the reserve list, abolition of nearly every player reward program worth a drat, volunteer judges, increasingly watered-down supplemental product releases, and now this. Fine, do something about the people who broke an NDA or whatever, but this "disproportionate response" (thanks Sheldon) is just pants on head stupid. UberJew posted:scg actually pays judges for some of their events
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Dec 22, 2015 21:04
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Here's your daily reminder not to play magic.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:04
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The fact that WOTC greenlit an article by a man named Trick telling you why you should feel ashamed of yourself for leaks existing probably says everything that needs to be said.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:11
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Lunsku posted:The L3 maintaining magicjudges.org (a third party judge site I understand) has suspended it in protest: Wow, I didn't even know that site was unofficial. It was a replacement for the incredibly dated judge.wizards.com, and was the site where every judge in the world went to post tournament reports*, apply for events (I seriously can't imagine the mayhem that this is causing for TOs who are trying to organize PPTQs, 1Ks, 5Ks, and even GPs), organize judge conferences, and discuss judging. * Which by the way, every L2 needed to submit a tournament report on magicjudges.org to maintain their L2 status. Where are the RCs going to go to view that information now? quote:At this time I do not know when, or if, the magicjudges.org network of sites will return to normal operation. If you have complaints, I would suggest you direct them to a representative of Wizards of the Coast. In the meantime, given their noted prowess with technology, I have no doubt an alternative location for event staffing, communication and community discussion will be up and running quickly.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:13
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BJPaskoff posted:Wow, I didn't even know that site was unofficial. It was a replacement for the incredibly dated judge.wizards.com, and was the site where every judge in the world went to post tournament reports*, apply for events (I seriously can't imagine the mayhem that this is causing for TOs who are trying to organize PPTQs, 1Ks, 5Ks, and even GPs), organize judge conferences, and discuss judging. Beaten. This dumpster fire is getting huge.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:16
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With all of these bannings over spoilers, is it uncouth to ask when is the next official spoiler for OGW?
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Dec 22, 2015 21:17
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InterrupterJones posted:With all of these bannings over spoilers, is it uncouth to ask when is the next spoiler for OGW? B&
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Dec 22, 2015 21:18
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InterrupterJones posted:With all of these bannings over spoilers, is it uncouth to ask when is the next official spoiler for OGW? there will be something on Christmas, official spoilers on monday, i think
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Dec 22, 2015 21:19
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InterrupterJones posted:With all of these bannings over spoilers, is it uncouth to ask when is the next official spoiler for OGW? Let me just leak something really quick.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:19
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mandatory lesbian posted:there will be something on Christmas, official spoilers on monday, i think Santa Cosi's coming to town?!
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Dec 22, 2015 21:20
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Angry Grimace posted:The fact that WOTC greenlit an article by a man named Trick telling you why you should feel ashamed of yourself for leaks existing probably says everything that needs to be said. For real, every public facing wotc employee I've seen is just trash.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:20
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BJPaskoff posted:Wow, I didn't even know that site was unofficial. It was a replacement for the incredibly dated judge.wizards.com, and was the site where every judge in the world went to post tournament reports*, apply for events (I seriously can't imagine the mayhem that this is causing for TOs who are trying to organize PPTQs, 1Ks, 5Ks, and even GPs), organize judge conferences, and discuss judging. The judge facebook groups and subreddit have gotten interesting real quick.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:20
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Lunsku posted:The L3 maintaining magicjudges.org (a third party judge site I understand) has suspended it in protest: lmao for those of you not in the know, this is how everything related to judging actually happens. Pro-Tour Judges apply for selection using this website. lmao. WOTC let something this critical stay as a third party thing lmao if it stays down for any length of time, its going to get crazy
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Dec 22, 2015 21:22
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just when you think you see the bottom of wizards digital incompetence, you find out they let a third-party handle their tournament organizing
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Dec 22, 2015 21:24
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Just sue for breach of contract then, right?
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Dec 22, 2015 21:28
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odiv posted:Just sue for breach of contract then, right? quote:In light of which, I — the maintainer, largely out of my own pocket — of the magicjudges.org network of Web sites and resources
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Dec 22, 2015 21:29
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mandatory lesbian posted:just when you think you see the bottom of wizards digital incompetence, you find out they let a third-party handle their tournament organizing a volunteer third-party that does it for "love of the game" Seriously gently caress that, I don't care how much you love your work. If someone else is profiting off of it you start charging for that poo poo. Also: always be closing posted:For real, every public facing wotc employee I've seen is just trash.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:33
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Ciprian Maricon posted:lmao Yeah, this is a really big deal and I'm kind of surprised that a couple judges I'm talking to think it's not. If this gets much further than January things are going to get mighty hosed
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Dec 22, 2015 21:33
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Now is a great time to get into force of will which p much plays the same but is improved. Before all your cardboard is worthless. 
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Dec 22, 2015 21:34
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Chill la Chill posted:Now is a great time to get into force of will which p much plays the same but is improved. Before all your cardboard is worthless. isn't it anime tho?
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Dec 22, 2015 21:36
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Chill la Chill posted:Now is a great time to get into force of will which p much plays the same but is improved. Before all your cardboard is worthless. I don't even need to look at the username any more.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:37
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 Leaks are bad guys. It's like stealing. Don't leak cards. Don't talk about leak cards. Don't repost leaked cards. Volunteer at large advertising events for no pay or next to nothing. If everyone reading this bought only one intro deck, our drive would be over.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:37
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ThePeavstenator posted:isn't it anime tho? And the card layouts are hideous.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:37
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ThePeavstenator posted:isn't it anime tho? It isn't a eurogame and thus unworthy of our attention.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:37
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Lunsku posted:The L3 maintaining magicjudges.org (a third party judge site I understand) has suspended it in protest: Yeah, as has been said this is a huge deal. This is where judges apply to be staffed to events, up to and including GPs. This is, in fact, the only place where we can do that, aside from a personal conversation with the TO. Not to mention reviews, reports, etc. Also, L2 maintenance forms are due and a lot of judges have been dragging their feet on them, and this site collates them. I am lucky I got mine in on time. Without Judge Apps, there's no way to staff any event. If this isn't back up in a matter of days events are going to start getting cancelled.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:38
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Snacksmaniac posted:
I hope you're tweeting all of this to WotC
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Dec 22, 2015 21:38
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Someone is just gonna report me and I'm going to be banned.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:39
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Yeah, as has been said this is a huge deal. This is where judges apply to be staffed to events, up to and including GPs. This is, in fact, the only place where we can do that, aside from a personal conversation with the TO. Not to mention reviews, reports, etc. Also, L2 maintenance forms are due and a lot of judges have been dragging their feet on them, and this site collates them. I am lucky I got mine in on time.  This is ... beautiful.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:40
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jassi007 posted:Right. here is the issue. Say you and I are in judge chat, and we see a link to a card image. We click on it, think wow neat. Tweet (new card??) 3 weeks later we're banned for 3 months. Are we the source of the leak? Nope. Did we get banned, when 1000 other schmucks who saw the leaked photos plastered them all over social media did not? Yup.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:40
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I once saw those spoilers on SomethingAwful.com and have since spoken about them before official reveal. This begets a DCI suspension as detailed by WOTC.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:42
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Here's a better idea: punish no one except for the leaker by never giving them product early again, adjust your spoiler release schedule, and start talking about the cards. No one is talking about OGW now, they're talking about WotC being incredibly dumb and incompetent. 
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FWIW Helene Bergeot has posted in an ongoing Facebook thread on this, saying "I'm hearing you" (which is probably all she's allowed to say anyways).
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