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Didn't see any discussion about this but I've watched the movie again and it's still really well made (great pacing, great humor, great action, solid story, great acting) but the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Carrie Fishers acting - anyone else feel that way?
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oswald ownenstein posted:Didn't see any discussion about this but I've watched the movie again and it's still really well made (great pacing, great humor, great action, solid story, great acting) but the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Carrie Fishers acting - anyone else feel that way? She did not give two shits. I mean, if you're going to redo A New Hope, somebody's got to be the Alec Guinness.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:21
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oswald ownenstein posted:Didn't see any discussion about this but I've watched the movie again and it's still really well made (great pacing, great humor, great action, solid story, great acting) but the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Carrie Fishers acting - anyone else feel that way? Cigarettes, botox, and a long break from serious acting will do that to you.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:22
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oswald ownenstein posted:Didn't see any discussion about this but I've watched the movie again and it's still really well made (great pacing, great humor, great action, solid story, great acting) but the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Carrie Fishers acting - anyone else feel that way? I may be wrong, but I believe it's super hard to "act" when your face is basically a layer of skin floating on top of botox.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:22
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It's like that episode of 30 Rock when Jenna becomes chubby, and Alec Baldwin says "that woman needs to gain or lose 40 pounds immediately. A woman of that size has no place on television" Carrie Fisher is 59, which makes her old, but not Old Lady old, and it's not something we're used to seeing in movies.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:25
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oswald ownenstein posted:Didn't see any discussion about this but I've watched the movie again and it's still really well made (great pacing, great humor, great action, solid story, great acting) but the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Carrie Fishers acting - anyone else feel that way? Her acting is fine and seems consistent with the OT, it's probably the jarring change in her voice that makes it seem weird.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:25
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Carrie Fisher is 59, which makes her old, but not Old Lady old, and it's not something we're used to seeing in movies. Whenever I see someone on a cinema screen that could be confused with a normal human being, I throw my Pepsi at the screen, scream and smash the projector. I don't need reminders of what human beings look, act and sound like.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:30
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Only time I was bothered by her performance was when she said "It was Snoke". Carrie Fisher, should not say Snoke.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:34
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"Snoke" is a stupid name for the supreme leader of a group of space fascists.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:40
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CelticPredator posted:
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Dec 28, 2015 18:40
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Supreme Leader Snoke.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:43
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The original line was "It was coke."
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Dec 28, 2015 18:47
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CelticPredator posted:The original line was "It was coke." Snoke is a hell of leader.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:51
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It sure's a good thing the original movies didn't have any cheesy villain names like Dark Father.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:53
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Snoke is just two letters away from Snookie.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:54
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I just hope they've filmed all of Luke and Leia's scenes because man wouldn't it suck if they bought the farm before the series ends.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:56
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oswald ownenstein posted:Didn't see any discussion about this but I've watched the movie again and it's still really well made (great pacing, great humor, great action, solid story, great acting) but the one thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is Carrie Fishers acting - anyone else feel that way? On the contrary--I was worried about Fisher's performance going in, given how much her voice has changed. But as soon as she started speaking, it's like she turned the Leia voice on like a switch. Then she 100% sold the "feeling Han's death" scene without delivering a line.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:57
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Calaveron posted:I just hope they've filmed all of Luke and Leia's scenes because man wouldn't it suck if they bought the farm before the series ends. They both look like they're in better shape than they've been in years.
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Dec 28, 2015 18:59
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Calaveron posted:I just hope they've filmed all of Luke and Leia's scenes because man wouldn't it suck if they bought the farm before the series ends. They're both millionaires working for Disney and neither is past their mid-60s. They won't be dying any time soon.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:02
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Calaveron posted:I just hope they've filmed all of Luke and Leia's scenes because man wouldn't it suck if they bought the farm before the series ends. She's 59 and he's 64, and they're both relatively healthy. It's not like Christopher Lee in The Hobbit, where it was amazing that he could even stand unaided on camera. Speaking of which this is so sad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv2ZFlBMHx4 Dude was so close to death and so invested in that shitshow.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:08
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CelticPredator posted:Only time I was bothered by her performance was when she said "It was Snoke".  " is the only thing I really dislike about it 
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Dec 28, 2015 19:09
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Madurai posted:Then she 100% sold the "feeling Han's death" scene without delivering a line. This was her bright spot in the movie by far. I got more emotional watching her response than when Han got skewered in the first place.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:15
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Effectronica posted:It sure's a good thing the original movies didn't have any cheesy villain names like Dark Father. Yeah, they didn't.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:21
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^^^ Vader is German for "father", though.Steve2911 posted:She's 59 and he's 64, and they're both relatively healthy. It's not like Christopher Lee in The Hobbit, where it was amazing that he could even stand unaided on camera. Lee's last work was for a children's computer game called Eggbird that he made with Mel Croucher just a couple of months before he passed, and he was just as invested in that. He did an awful lot of things for the money in his fallow period between the end of Hammer and being cast as Saruman, but he never gave less than his all.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:24
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Mark Hamill is a legitimately good actor if you've seen him in anything in the last couple of years where he's done character work. He's on The Flash TV series basically playing the Joker and he's pretty good.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:24
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Obstacle2 posted:Yeah, they didn't. Let us not forget the super dignified names of Jabba the Hutt, Salicious Crumb, and Bib Fortuna.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:24
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aBagorn posted:This was her bright spot in the movie by far. I got more emotional watching her response than when Han got skewered in the first place. I read in the behind the scenes filming of this scene just off camera JJ Abrams flushes an eight ball while Carrie looks on, and the response is 100% natural.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:26
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Ze Pollack posted:Let us not forget the super dignified names of Jabba the Hutt, Salicious Crumb, and Bib Fortuna. Snoke is a dumb name for the evil leader of the bad guys. It would have been fine for some dude sitting in a corner in Maz's place. Also Jabba's name is perfect.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:47
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Obstacle2 posted:Snoke is a dumb name for the evil leader of the bad guys. It would have been fine for some dude sitting in a corner in Maz's place. The other bad guys in TFA are Phantasm, Kyle, and Huckster. In the OT, we have Dark Father and Emperor Palpable.
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Dec 28, 2015 19:53
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Krowley posted:The Harrison Fordiest moment in the movie "Move, ball."
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Dec 28, 2015 19:56
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Han/Kylo bridge showdown. How did you interpret it? 1. Kylo is urging Han to kill him (Kylo) with his lightsaber. When Han hesitates, Kylo gets grumpy about the Weakness and kills Han 2. Kylo offered Han the lightsaber as part of a ~~~SIQ FAKEOUT~~~ and always planned to gut him 3. Other?
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Dec 28, 2015 20:03
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It's quite possible Kylo Ren himself didn't know what he is going to do. He sort of went with the flow. Edit: That, or he's a lying sack of poo poo.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:06
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Han/Kylo bridge showdown. How did you interpret it? Han is legitimately attempting to get through to Kylo. Kylo is legitimately tempted by Han and even considers handing his lightsaber over. You see Han gripping it tightly and trying to pull it away. Kylo 'overcomes' the temptation and kills his father. That is the reason for the lighting in that scene. There is still light (and thus still hope) until Kylo makes his decision, at which point the screen turns blood red and the sun goes out.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:06
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Han/Kylo bridge showdown. How did you interpret it? Kyle is being tempted by the ray of light to abandon the dark. When the sun dies, the light becomes red and hellish, and he decides to remain with the dark and cut away his connection to the light.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:06
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Mark Hamill killed it in Kingsman and I didn't even realise it was him the first time I watched it.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:08
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Kylo was struggling with the thought of killing his dad. He half wanted Han to take the lightsaber from him and half wanted to stab him with it. The stab won out.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:08
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Han and Kylo are noticably struggling for the lightsaber in that scene which I though was good.
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Dec 28, 2015 20:10
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Hollismason posted:Han and Kylo are noticably struggling for the lightsaber in that scene which I though was good. Yeah, I really liked that part. Two other thoughts of no relevance - I freaking loved TR-8R. Best stormtrooper ever. - There's pretty much no reason for BB8 to be in the next one, since he's completed his Get the Map mission. I'll miss him! (They'll probably force some reason for him to be prominent in Ep 8 though)
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Dec 28, 2015 20:13
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah, I really liked that part. BB-8 is Poe's Droid! There's no forcing him in. He'll be there with his buddy!
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Yeah, I really liked that part.
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