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fishmech posted:That doesn't work. Ask any of the dozens of black people killed in the past months just because the cops thought they might have had a gun. Don't forget all the ones killed by The Armed and Un-badged, like Zimmerman and the home depot parking lot killer. Although I suppose neither of those two claimed to believe their victims were even armed.
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Mulva posted:It's simple, if they start a rebellion and that rebellion eventually wins control of the country then they were divinely justified and a "heavn' born band", if not they they were a lone wolf mentally ill transgender liberal. Then why does the Confederacy garner such adulation? (rhetorical question, I already know why)
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radical meme posted:I didn't realize that BLM was taking direct credit for each of those changes. Especially since none of those articles name or even mention Black Lives Matter. But, even incremental change, regardless of who is responsible for it, is a good thing. I guess it's an extreme coincidence that all of these discussions and reforms are taking place now instead of the previous years.
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blue squares posted:Why would anyone care what libertarians think about anything? Because one of the Koch brothers' signatures is on their
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haveblue posted:
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Luigi Thirty posted:Another Sikh attacked today, this time in Louisiana. A man yelled racial slurs at a convenience store employee and smashed a beer bottle over his head when asked to leave. Holy poo poo. I know this was from a few pages ago but I live in Monroe. I know some of the Sikh temple here; they have temple/community meetings at a rent house down the street from me with amazing food every couple of weeks. My bud Ranjit had to wear an American flag to work every day to avoid accusations of terrorism. I feel like I have to go and ask if they want any volunteer help or something. This idiot islamophobia is out of control.
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If the only thing Black Lives Matter accomplished was to force reactionaries to angrily deface the printed statement "black lives matter" repeatedly, that would be enough. However they have accomplished a lot more than that.
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Dr. Red Ranger posted:My bud Ranjit had to wear an American flag to work every day to avoid accusations of terrorism. *phew* I was wondering if we could tell if a brown person was one of the good ones, but I never realized Muslims/terrorists couldn't wear flag pins! 
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It sounds stupid but that was his explanation. People would endlessly give him poo poo about his turban and beard, but if he wore the flag the idiots would at least leer at him and mumble instead of slurring him to his face. This is the town that gave us a Duck Dynasty after all.
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ohgodwhat posted:*phew* I was wondering if we could tell if a brown person was one of the good ones, but I never realized Muslims/terrorists couldn't wear flag pins! He took it off though. Ever. quote:On the October 5 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, former radio host Mark Williams claimed that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), "took his flag pin off after 9-11, and he felt, apparently, some sort of an affinity or some sort of a connection, because at that point he felt it OK to come out of the closet as the domestic insurgent he is." You're supposed to have another flag pin on your shirt when you take off your jacket, and another one on your BVDs. When you gently caress (only to populate the nation with warriors) you're supposed to stick the pin into your chest.
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fishmech posted:That doesn't work. Ask any of the dozens of black people killed in the past months just because the cops thought they might have had a gun. Then I guess they don't have anything to lose by actually carrying one 
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:Hi. I'm a Unitarian Universalist. My denomination has really gotten behind this whole Black Lives Matter thing, but gosh, maybe it's just a waste of time. Where did you find these images? I want to share this with some people.
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Also they keep saying "all lives matter" like they aren't trying to keep war refugees out of America.
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Stereotype posted:Also they keep saying "all lives matter" like they aren't trying to keep war refugees out of America. I wonder how many of the people chanting "all lives matter" are just standard racists, obfuscating their denial that "black lives matter", and how many are especially stupid and genuinely believe the statement is an attack on whites rather than an assertion that black lives matter exactly as much as white ones. e:\/\/\/ fair point Motto fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Dec 30, 2015 |
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Motto posted:I wonder how many of the people chanting "all lives matter" are just standard racists, obfuscating their denial that "black lives matter", and how many are especially stupid and genuinely believe the statement is an attack on whites rather than an assertion that black lives matter exactly as much as white ones. All of them.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:All of them. One of the few absolutes I think we can all agree on in this forum. it's a honeypot post to catch more racists
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Anyone saying "all lives matter" is using it as a fig leaf to try and hide their racism. That's how self-evident racism is in our society.
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Stereotype posted:Also they keep saying "all lives matter" like they aren't trying to keep war refugees out of America. It should be pretty obvious that the literal, physical deletion of "black" from "lives matter" from the aforementioned signs speaks volumes more than the dogwhistling cover phrase "all lives matter." It's as if they secretly support the literal, physical deletion of blacks in other ways too. Actions indeed speak louder than words.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Anyone saying "all lives matter" is using it as a fig leaf to try and hide their racism. I dunno. I think a lot of people are actually well meaning sheltered innocents/doofuses who have no active racist intent. They think they are saying something profound and all inclusive. Many call passive naïveté a form of racism, but I think that might overspend and dilute the meaning of the word. They aren't bigots, just ignorant. It's still bad, but it's not the same thing. For most, though, you are exactly correct.
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Trent posted:I dunno. I think a lot of people are actually well meaning sheltered innocents/doofuses who have no active racist intent. They think they are saying something profound and all inclusive. Many call passive naïveté a form of racism, but I think that might overspend and dilute the meaning of the word. They aren't bigots, just ignorant. It's still bad, but it's not the same thing. Those are people who will defend every bigotry and never, ever step up to help fight it, so the distinction is pretty meaningless.
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"All lives matter" is like protesting Breast Cancer Awareness Month with a sign that says "All Cancer Awareness Month".
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James Garfield posted:Also, "(science/engineering/computers/higher education) should be able to choose the best candidate for the job" What?
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Trent posted:I dunno. I think a lot of people are actually well meaning sheltered innocents/doofuses who have no active racist intent. They think they are saying something profound and all inclusive. Many call passive naïveté a form of racism, but I think that might overspend and dilute the meaning of the word. They aren't bigots, just ignorant. It's still bad, but it's not the same thing. My mom had no idea that it was a racist slogan until I told her. She thought it was one of those wacky profound Facebook things. Same thing with all the other right-wing pseudo-profound image macros on Facebook she gets being a 50-something medical worker in Florida, as soon as I told her what they really meant (racism) she stopped sharing them. Victory? She's also very concerned that her whole office supports Donald Trump.
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A lot of it falls into that unexamined sort of racism, the sort where they'd probably be fine with the guy down at the convenience store being black, but not their boss or their landlord. And heaven forbid if "those" people with their baggy pants and sideways baseball caps started walking down the street, lowering the property values and generally messing up the place. See, it's not because they're black, because, you know, they're fine with the convenience store guy. They're just uncomfortable with their daughter dating him because he comes from circumstances and she deserves better. Totally not because he's black. The author here is in the UK, but goes into the subject quite well here: https://samkriss.wordpress.com/2015/02/24/a-short-note-on-racism/ quote:That point was nicely identified by Ms Duncan, who delivered a long racist rant in front of a clearly horrified Ukip press officer (aghast, no doubt, that someone was actually saying what everyone’s thinking) and – unbelievably – an entire BBC camera team. She ticked just about every box: not just ominously referring to people with Negroid features but directly and openly voicing a specific, personal, visceral dislike for such people, and even recounting an instance in which she had discriminated against them (by pushing for Negro children to be excluded from sheltered housing). And she just kept on going, a bubbling sewer-sluice of the stuff, idiocy after idiocy. What’s strange is that she also insisted, and continues to insist, that she is not a racist. In an interview filmed after she had been fired from Ukip, she seemed to believe that her offence wasn’t a clearly voiced animus towards black people, but the anachronistic use of the word Negro. It’s a description, not an insult, she said. Like how Jews have bent noses. (Mine, I should add, is beaky and protruding but ramrod-straight.) But of course she didn’t think she was saying anything wrong – otherwise she wouldn’t have said it in front of a BBC camera crew, all of them surely trying to stifle their grins and hoping the word paydirt wasn’t visibly flashing across the whites of their eyes.
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Trent posted:I dunno. I think a lot of people are actually well meaning sheltered innocents/doofuses who have no active racist intent. They think they are saying something profound and all inclusive. Many call passive naïveté a form of racism, but I think that might overspend and dilute the meaning of the word. They aren't bigots, just ignorant. It's still bad, but it's not the same thing. I just don't understand how you can be taken aback at the statement "black lives matter." Either you have been conditioned to think it is a dogwhistle of some kind that means "ONLY black lives matter" (which would only make sense if you are used to hearing and enjoying dogwhistles) or you are a profound racist whose brain shorts out at the very idea.
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Doctor Butts posted:Protests broke off of e9 went down Ontario and are in front of the Q Hey is there a twitter channel or facebook page which organizes this stuff? I want to get on board tomorrow but don't feel like wandering around public square like a dumbass, tia
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I know the thread's moved on but I feel compelled to comment on the fact that when Affluenza Kid's mom whisked him off to Mexico, they ended up in loving Puerto Vallerta, literally a resort town.
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Luigi Thirty posted:She's also very concerned that her whole office supports Donald Trump. Oh tell her to lighten up. Donald Trump is a totally legitimate and not-unhinged GOP candidate with good ideas on how to make America great again. Just listen to his national spokesperson  who wore a necklace made of bullets on live television oh sweet Jesus we're totally hosed
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Toph Bei Fong posted:The author here is in the UK, but goes into the subject quite well here: https://samkriss.wordpress.com/2015/02/24/a-short-note-on-racism/ This is extremely proclick
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A man in Brooklyn was charged with a hate crime for chasing four Pakistanis down a street while yelling "I want to see the blood of Muslims on the street!"
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SedanChair posted:I just don't understand how you can be taken aback at the statement "black lives matter." Either you have been conditioned to think it is a dogwhistle of some kind that means "ONLY black lives matter" (which would only make sense if you are used to hearing and enjoying dogwhistles) or you are a profound racist whose brain shorts out at the very idea. For those correcting or directly responding to BLM with ALM I agree. Like the other poster above, my mother used ALM honestly thinking she was just being even more inclusive and progressive. It was a stupid but honest mistake. In her case, all it took was showing her the all houses matter comic for her to realize that the statement, while actually very positive in a vacuum, is incredibly tone-deaf and racist sounding in the current climate. And that was the bigot vs buffoon distinction I was making earlier. One is testing you to see if you'd be down with dropping some n-bombs together, while the other is well meaning but naïve. In other words one is worth engaging with about it.
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Luigi Thirty posted:A man in Brooklyn was charged with a hate crime for chasing four Pakistanis down a street while yelling "I want to see the blood of Muslims on the street!" God drat America.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:It should be pretty obvious that the literal, physical deletion of "black" from "lives matter" from the aforementioned signs speaks volumes more than the dogwhistling cover phrase "all lives matter." You are trying way too hard. They're vandals wrecking poo poo. Of course they disagree with BLM but trying to read into how a hellraiser fucks up someone's banner reminds me of those parody HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED shops that pretend to draw all sorts of conclusions from random numbers on the Steam frontpage. Most people (regardless of race or party, except for blacks, they get it obviously) I've run into across several states just think that someone saying BLM means they believe it's not a big deal when the cops unjustifiably shoot a white person. I'm not sure there's any way to communicate around that mental gap in any way that will fit in a hashtag, unfortunately.
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DeusExMachinima posted:You are trying way too hard. They're vandals wrecking poo poo. Of course they disagree with BLM but trying to read into how a hellraiser fucks up someone's banner reminds me of those parody HALF-LIFE 3 CONFIRMED shops that pretend to draw all sorts of conclusions from random numbers on the Steam frontpage. One of the biggest cons the hate movement has tried to pull over the decades is that racially-directed violence is just formless, disconnected violence that happens to be narrowly directed along racial lines. Maybe we'll never know the motives of these
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