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old dog child posted:Raiders/Chargers in LA while still being in the same division has potential to be a cool Lakers/Clippers thing Not if you're a fan of the team that will only have 7 home games for all eternity
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Jan 5, 2016 05:09
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San Diego doesn't deserve this. Just give LA the Rams and Raiders again if you have to.
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Ross Angeles posted:Not if you're a fan of the team that will only have 7 home games for all eternity This was already true for you tho.
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Volkerball posted:This was already true for you tho. only when they're bad. The mid 2000s Chargers had really really strong home crowds.
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Ross Angeles posted:only when they're bad. The mid 2000s Chargers had really really strong home crowds. If the Chargers got good while they were in LA, I think they could do that again. Sucks Phil is so old at this point. You're gonna get there and then be looking at a rebuild.
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Volkerball posted:If the Chargers got good while they were in LA, I think they could do that again. Sucks Phil is so old at this point. You're gonna get there and then be looking at a rebuild. Phil's got a good 3-5 years left I think. He's never relied on athleticism or arm strength, so he'll be able to play until he's 38-39 at a decent level
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Ross Angeles posted:Phil's got a good 3-5 years left I think. He's never relied on athleticism or arm strength, so he'll be able to play until he's 38-39 at a decent level It'd be cool if he does. I'd hate to see you guys struggle to get established if you move. Every teams statement.  quote:"In accordance with the relocation policies, the Oakland Raiders submitted a relocation package to the NFL. The matter is now in the hands of the NFL’s owners. An owners’ meeting is scheduled to take place in Houston, Texas on January 12 and 13, 2016." Spanos did a full interview. http://www.chargers.com/news/2016/01/04/dean-spanos-explains-chargers-filing-relocation No work from Kroenke or Davis.
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Did the chargers do any.teachung out to oher cities other than LA like Davis did with San Antonio? My swami prediction: Rams and chargers get the ok to.move to LA. Raiders get told no and they remain at the coliseum under 1 year deals until the A's move to jack London square.
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Jan 5, 2016 05:24
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I want the Los Angeles Raiders back, if only due to the Bo Jackson and gangsta rap connections.
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I feel like the league is going to approve the Raiders and Chargers moving, since St. Louis actually has a plan and funding secured. The stadium task force worked closely with the the relocation committee to get it right. Of course I'll be wrong and without a team by next week WOO
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Ron Jeremy posted:until the A's move to jack London square. As someone who lives in Jack London Square, what is this?! I don't know if you're joking but there's no room here for a stadium. Blowing my mind, if true.
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Jan 5, 2016 06:50
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LA Raiders/Rams would be cool like how NY Giants/Jets is cool.
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computer parts posted:LA Raiders/Rams would be cool like how NY Giants/Jets is cool. That's not really on the table tho
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Jan 5, 2016 06:58
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Realistic possibilities: Rams move to LA Rams and Chargers move to LA Chargers and Raiders move to LA Chargers move to LA
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Jan 5, 2016 07:01
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Realistic possibilities: One bad team goes to LA. More than one bad team goes to LA.
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Jan 5, 2016 07:06
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Maybe nobody goes to LA and everyone signs 1 year deals in their own cities
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Blitz7x posted:Maybe nobody goes to LA and everyone signs 1 year deals in their own cities And do all this next January?
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Ross Angeles posted:And do all this next January? We are getting that Mexico City MNF game right? Just keep playing this dance out till they move one of the 3 there.
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Blitz7x posted:Maybe nobody goes to LA and everyone signs 1 year deals in their own cities loving lol if you actually want to go through with this poo poo every year I'm not even a fan of one of the teams considering moving, and watching this ordeal for just a few months was exhausting and heartbreaking
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If this isn't resolved by next year, it'll be the death of any teams involved. Even die-hard fans aren't going to support a team that maybe kind of wants to move away. The NFL owners probably aren't collectively senile enough to have forgotten the lesson of the Oilers in Memphis.
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Ross Angeles posted:Realistic possibilities: I think the first two are the likeliest. The Chargers will not be allowed to move on their own. Today, right now, Spanos could accept Kroenke's offer of a partnership at Inglewood and the whole thing would be resolved. He doesn't want to do that, though. I think the league could send Kroenke to LA for a year, give SD the opportunity to vote for stadium funding and if the city doesn't do it then force Spanos into Inglewood. Oakland is an interesting issue. If they get more funds than normal from the NFL to build a stadium, then other cities might not respond to this kind of extortion in the future. If the Chargers do leave I guess I'll be a Green Bay fan simply because they're not going to pull this poo poo.
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Bip Roberts posted:How can a stadium be a problem there when Hollywood Park and The Forum exist. When we used to tailgate Forum events one of the games we would play in the parking lot was "Bet The Arrival" for drinks. You had to guess whether the flight would be International or Domestic and for a bonus guess the exact airline company. You could get blasted very quickly because the flow of air traffic was constant and relentless. The amount of planes passing by don't mean much to an event once inside The Forum but for an outdoor stadium television sound engineers would have their work cut out for them to drown out that loud cacophony for the entire course of a football game. No fancy fly-bys or parachuters landing into the stadium either. The FAA doesn't give a gently caress about football, they have their hands full keeping track of all of air traffic coming and going from one of the world's busiest airports. The Carson site, while not sexy either, doesn't have that issue and "Eagle" HQ for the Goodyear blimp is literally a walk up the street with carte blanche to fly.
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weakness posted:As someone who lives in Jack London Square, what is this?! I don't know if you're joking but there's no room here for a stadium. Blowing my mind, if true. Howard terminal is one of the proposed sites for the A's. http://www.insidebayarea.com/breaking-news/ci_29307899/oakland-pitches-stadium-sites Really though, both the A's snd the raiders want sole control over the coliseum site and are elbowing each other for it. The A's have the advantage in that they signed a ten year contract for it while the raiders have been on one year deals.
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Ross Angeles posted:Realistic possibilities: Why is no one considering Rams+Raiders? It fixes the whole "2 teams in the same division sharing a stadium" nonsense and avoids having to re-work the divisions.
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axeil posted:Why is no one considering Rams+Raiders? It fixes the whole "2 teams in the same division sharing a stadium" nonsense and avoids having to re-work the divisions. Kroenke extended the offer to the Chargers to share a stadium, and very specifically didn't offer the Raiders the same option. Seems Kroenke really doesn't want to work with Davis.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Kroenke extended the offer to the Chargers to share a stadium, and very specifically didn't offer the Raiders the same option. Seems Kroenke really doesn't want to work with Davis. gently caress that, the NFL should force them to work together. It's the only plan that makes sense. The Raiders absolutely have to have a new stadium, the Colosseum is literally falling apart and needs Solo cups everywhere to keep water from flooding things.
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How are the Warriors surviving in Oakland when the As and Raiders can't wait to get out.
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euphronius posted:How are the Warriors surviving in Oakland when the As and Raiders can't wait to get out. Because the Oracle Arena is nice, and the Coliseum is falling to dust. Plus the Warriors are good.
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Also the Warriors are planning, or at least were planning on moving to San Francisco in the near future.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Howard terminal is one of the proposed sites for the A's. Hmmm. Freeway access, close BART locations, ferry access and its on the water... Sounds pretty nice. Thanks for the info, really interesting to know! I should pay attention to local news.
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Chargers to Oakland, Rams stay put and suffer in Misery, haha, and Raider back to LA cause better Hooter girls to ignore Billionaire weird dude.
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axeil posted:gently caress that, the NFL should force them to work together. It's the only plan that makes sense. The Raiders absolutely have to have a new stadium, the Colosseum is literally falling apart and needs Solo cups everywhere to keep water from flooding things. The Chargers also need a new stadium though
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Spoeank posted:Can't wait to see Jeff Fisher go 8 and 8 in LA. Or as they call it, the 8 and the 8.  But really, I loving hate the way Angelinos talk, especially in the Valley. 
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Chargers have basically no winning moves at this point - I know multiple die-hard fans here who just stopped watching football this year. It'd be one thing if they had had a decent season, but people are pissed off at Spanos, pissed off at the team for being a flaming shitstorm of horrible losers who suck, and pissed off at the city in general for the ridiculous mark-up to watch a team of useless babies flail around in a lovely broken-down stadium. The soul of football is dying a gruesome death in San Diego, and what's the Chargers' solution? Move to Los Angeles. Where basically no one wants them. At this point if they don't move to LA and have to move back to SD, they've damaged their reputation and are hosed. If they do move to LA, even less people will care and they're hosed.
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Home Attendance Percentage 2015 #26 Chargers (93.7%) #30 Raiders (86.7%) #32 Rams (80.2%) 2014 #28 Chargers (91.8%) #30 Rams (87.3%) #31 Raiders (85.2%) 2013 #25 Chargers (90.1%) #29 Rams (87.2%) #32 Raiders (80%) 2012 #28 Rams (86.8%) #29 Raiders (86.0%) #30 Chargers (84.1%) 2011 #22 Raiders (94%) #25 Chargers (91.7%) #27 Rams (86.3%) 2010 #23 Chargers (91.9%) #30 Rams (81%) #32 Oakland (73.7%) 2009 #24 Chargers (94.7%) #29 Rams (84.6%) #32 Oakland (70.3%) 2008 #26 Chargers (95.6%) #28 Raiders (91.8%) #29 Rams (91.8%) Moving the Chargers doesn't make sense.
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Chichevache posted:
Hey, if you had to spend 2-3 hours a day on a loving freeway, you would elevate their status too Also, the valley owns. Where else are you gonna live and have the parents of like 4 or 5 of your childhood friends be in the porn industry The Glumslinger fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 5, 2016 |
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axeil posted:Why is no one considering Rams+Raiders? It fixes the whole "2 teams in the same division sharing a stadium" nonsense and avoids having to re-work the divisions. The NFL doesn't want three teams in southern California
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pathetic little tramp posted:Chargers have basically no winning moves at this point - I know multiple die-hard fans here who just stopped watching football this year. It'd be one thing if they had had a decent season, but people are pissed off at Spanos, pissed off at the team for being a flaming shitstorm of horrible losers who suck, and pissed off at the city in general for the ridiculous mark-up to watch a team of useless babies flail around in a lovely broken-down stadium. The soul of football is dying a gruesome death in San Diego, and what's the Chargers' solution? Move to Los Angeles. Where basically no one wants them. I kinda feel this way as well. I'm an SD transplant living in LA and I stopped watching the games this year. I've lived, gone to school and worked in LA for 7 years and I don't know a single Chargers fan in LA who isn't a SD transplant. And those people have told me they won't root for a team who a)forsakes their hometown and b)is run by a terrible, greedy scumbag like Dean Spanos. If they get their proposal rejected and stay in SD, AND Dean remains the owner, who the hell will root for them? I know I won't. He's just going to keep trying to leave.
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