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theflyingorc posted:Maybe I'm crazy, but I think the news coverage is on a downward slope. As long as nothing keeps happening, cameras aren't going to stay pointed at them. Man, it's a good thing they don't want any attention whatsoever because if they did then they might do something in order to keep the news coverage coming.
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theflyingorc posted:Maybe I'm crazy, but I think the news coverage is on a downward slope. As long as nothing keeps happening, cameras aren't going to stay pointed at them. Because the media wanted a bloodbath, just like the Bundys, that doesn't mean the Bundys suddenly stop being a problem.
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Also: Turns out the family did request the fences take down (or at least that's what it seems like).  EDIT: Bonus joke 
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The Larch posted:Man, it's a good thing they don't want any attention whatsoever because if they did then they might do something in order to keep the news coverage coming. like...what? they have no hostages, they have no FBI to shoot at. What dramatic action do you recommend they take to drum up attention?
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theflyingorc posted:like...what? they have no hostages, they have no FBI to shoot at. What dramatic action do you recommend they take to drum up attention? They could initiate a culling of endangered birds or publish those HR records they dug up. You know, the kind of poo poo these people would do without a second thought.
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Crain posted:Bonus joke O'Malley is looking for votes in some unusual places these days.
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theflyingorc posted:like...what? they have no hostages, they have no FBI to shoot at. What dramatic action do you recommend they take to drum up attention? Right now this is what they're doing, and it's drumming up at least some attention: https://twitter.com/WandaKTVZ/status/686647283547377665 I didn't think any businesses would be dumb enough to ask for/use the land while the Bundy's were doing this but it turns out one rancher asked them to remove the fence between their land and the refuge. And they're currently dismantling the fence with the equipment from the refuge office.
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Uh, what's wrong with that guy's face?
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They barely even tried to hide the logos on the Wildlife trucks: 
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My Man Shran posted:They could initiate a culling of endangered birds or publish those HR records they dug up. that's not going to get them back to the top of CNN. and I really doubt they're going to think of either of those weird things to do? Crain posted:Right now this is what they're doing, and it's drumming up at least some attention: sure, and all that's dumb and not getting them literally 0 attention, but they're hardly where they were a week ago. the threat of violence is the start and end of what makes this story interesting, and unless somebody fires a gun I don't see that changing
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shrike82 posted:Uh, what's wrong with that guy's face? He got run over by a car as a child. Try to keep up.
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Crain posted:Right now this is what they're doing, and it's drumming up at least some attention: Looks like the revolution begins here.
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Crain posted:They barely even tried to hide the logos on the Wildlife trucks: Welfare queens and their Wildlife F-350's(?).
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Stealing and defacing government property is certainly a crime, isn't it?
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Thump! posted:Stealing and defacing government property is certainly a crime, isn't it? Yes. So is cutting down the fences. And occupying the Federal property. But, let's face it: The Feds, while they might have been playing this by ear to avoid a Waco, have now basically let this monster grow too far to do anything now. And now the Bundys have legitimacy, media coverage or not.
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Thump! posted:Stealing and defacing government property is certainly a crime, isn't it? Sedition and insurrection.
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the feds should cede the cabin and land to bundy, then he'll get bored and go home!!
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Condiv posted:the feds should cede the cabin and land to bundy, then he'll get bored and go home!! But he would be home?
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CommieGIR posted:But, let's face it: The Feds, while they might have been playing this by ear to avoid a Waco, have now basically let this monster grow too far to do anything now. And now the Bundys have legitimacy, media coverage or not. what do you mean by legitimacy? I don't agree with your narrative at all, I see no reason to expect the situation to escalate significantly because there really aren't that many ways for it TO escalate.
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theflyingorc posted:like...what? they have no hostages, they have no FBI to shoot at. What dramatic action do you recommend they take to drum up attention? There are children at the occupied site now. Consider that at the Bundy Ranch standoff, some of these chucklefucks were quite happy to speak glowingly to the press about how they were going to let the BLM agents shoot at their wives and kids first, aka, literally using them as bullet shields. You guys kind've keep ignoring this.
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LeoMarr posted:But he would be home? Ammon: Vacate! I want off this refuge! Dr. Ritzheimer: You can't leave. She won't let you.
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kartikeya posted:There are children at the occupied site now. Consider that at the Bundy Ranch standoff, some of these chucklefucks were quite happy to speak glowingly to the press about how they were going to let the BLM agents shoot at their wives and kids first, aka, literally using them as bullet shields. You guys kind've keep ignoring this. No seriously, as long as the FBI continues to do nothing, what, exactly, is going to happen? How is this situation going to boil over?
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theflyingorc posted:OK, so the problem is the FBI aren't coming in and doing something, so they've created a situation where the children will be shot by the FBI. Got it. don't you see you fool, the anti-government militias are really feeling empowered to take action against the government by cutting down fences and spraypainting trucks they're going to leave a bag of flaming cow dung on the steps of the fed next
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theflyingorc posted:OK, so the problem is the FBI aren't coming in and doing something, so they've created a situation where the children will be shot by the FBI. Got it. I've gone over that in detail in about three or four posts now, please feel free to actually read them. I'm just correcting your assertion that they don't have hostages.
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theflyingorc posted:OK, so the problem is the FBI aren't coming in and doing something, so they've created a situation where the children will be shot by the FBI. Got it. Let's see: Letting unauthorized persons graze protected land, possible destruction of Federal property (like cutting down fences for a cooperative rancher, hey!), and their intent to basically use the land as they see fit. I guess there are no consequences for breaking the law. If you can threaten to shoot back, gently caress why didn't the Bundys just rob a bank?
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theflyingorc posted:what do you mean by legitimacy? I don't agree with your narrative at all, I see no reason to expect the situation to escalate significantly because there really aren't that many ways for it TO escalate. The situation will escalate by the fact that every militia in the country now sees the government is utterly powerless to stop them. They've already announced plans to do this in other areas, and other states. Do you think this is the only lovely town where the BLM or some other form of government control owns and protects land. Now everytime there is a dispute between locals and a government land-management entity these idiots are going to take it as open season to show up and do shows of force like they've been doing here. They drove to the FBI compound the other day in a convoy of 20 vehicles, full of heavily armed assholes just to flex and make demands, and the FBI met them behind concrete walls with assault rifles. It literally could have turned into a bloodbath right there. Ignoring them is making the news get bored and go away sure, because they wanted a bloodbath. But as far as the militia lunatics are concerned this is an absolute victory and the government is powerless to stop them. All the lovely militia groups that were saying the Bundys were crazy for doing this, have already flocked to his cause now that they've seen the government won't lift a finger against them. The bundy's aren't getting bored or being starved out, they've stolen all the BLM trucks, spraypainted over the government logos, and are driving them around the county tearing down fences and handing out land deeds they've stolen from the BLM offices to the ranchers. They're having a field day and getting more support from lunatic anti-government types everyday.
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Looks like the Bundys are now forcing a local dry wall company to dig trenches around the towns outskirts. 
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ToxicSlurpee posted:So is it also game over when he sleeps? Does dying mean he ran out of quarters? 
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Pretty sure this has already been posted days ago, but it apparently needs to be repeated http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/07/oregon-residents-say-its-time-for-the-militia-to-pack-it-up-and-goquote:The local sheriff policing the occupation of a wildlife refuge in Oregon said he has received numerous death threats since armed militia took over the remote government outpost over the weekend. Totally harmless, guys, it's just like OWS, why do you lust for blood, it's just a bird sanctuary after all, they're not hurting anyone.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:This is supposedly a list of wants from the OR militia wannabes. I don't see condoms, glitter, or lube on there. Guess the Gawker care package took care of that.  I'm betting that any of the people who have sent them stuff have already ended up on an FBI watch list. Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jan 11, 2016 |
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CommieGIR posted:That's the fake marine, right? One of several, yes
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CrazyLittle posted:One of several, yes Marine Farce Recon
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Alter Ego posted:I don't see condoms, glitter, or lube on there. Guess the Gawker care package took care of that. lol the fbi is probably too scared to even keep track of those people now if they were supporting a leftist group...
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Condiv posted:lol the fbi is probably too scared to even keep track of those people Leftist groups don't have guns so yes they're an easy target.
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