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Magres
Jul 14, 2011
Age of wushu really was kung pow: the game, hilariously bad translations and all

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Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


APB:All Points Bulletin had a lot of emphasis on customizing your character and their style. It went to the point of your character being able to have a midi theme song that would play for anyone you killed while they were respawning. The max time limit on these tunes were about 5 seconds. You could make your own or buy them on the market. Choices ranged from ditties from video games or griefy cacophonies designed to torture the listener. But one way or another, they were all created by players, which was pretty neat.

You could also compose longer songs, lasting up to over a minute, and play these songs over your car radio. I think I've seen/heard that happen maybe once or twice during the time I played. These were stored in a separate song library but were created in the same editor.

Unfortunately for RTW, the then-devs of APB, it was easy to stumble upon a way to save full-length songs in the short clip library.

Turns out, when you force your victims to listen to a minute of Holst's Jupiter after every time they die, they get really upset.

And then they get just a little more upset when you kill them AGAIN while the first play is still happening, and then they get to enjoy a second layer of the song on top of the first. :allears:

Before long, every instance had a few people on both sides doing this poo poo. :allears:

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
the best grief in APB was how the developers never turned on the anti-cheating protocols so everyone used ESP and aimbots and nobody could do anything about it

Double Monocle
Sep 4, 2008

Smug as fuck.

Magres posted:

Age of wushu really was kung pow: the game, hilariously bad translations and all

It really was.

One of my favorite things was the ability names, which were 100% wulin nonsense.

poo poo like Peck eye and fight for Pearls and Borrow the body to trick the soul

It should also be noted that the translation was like 50% machine translated so you had a pretty good chance your ability tooltips would say like "Block move, blocks the intend to kill" with nothing else.

Part of the fun of wushu was just figuring out what the gently caress something did before anyone else and exploiting it.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Wanderer's Valley had a loving move called "Murder the Gods and Destroy the Buddha" :black101:

Hell one of their movesets was "Bone Corrosion Palm"

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Yardbomb posted:

Wanderer's Valley had a loving move called "Murder the Gods and Destroy the Buddha" :black101:

Hell one of their movesets was "Bone Corrosion Palm"

Wanderer's Valley was loving amazing.

The thing to consider about it was that it was basically one of the two "assassin" groups apparently designed for the purpose of being as much of an rear end in a top hat in a straight fight as possible. There were the needle throwing assholes Tangman in another school and them. Both of them were complete jackasses to fight for different reasons. In Wanderer's Valley's case you basically played a faaaaaabulous purple clad sword wielding lunatic who could just juggle the poo poo out of people. Their first style wasn't built to tank but instead to just be that one rear end in a top hat who plays fighting games that can combo someone from a full health meter to nothing.

Of course since one of their first styles was so juggle heavy that meant that they were prime stunlocking material for newbie goons. Which meant just about any goon could join the game and immediately be a pain in the rear end. Cue roving squads of fabulously purple goons roaming the streets and just beating the poo poo out of people like villains from some third rate kung-fu movie.

The best part of their zone though was that people liked to do group training on top of a literal frigging mountain. Like, if you jumped off the top of this mountain you were dead sort of mountain. Goons exploited this so heavily to knock people out of training sessions that I think one of them (Jerkjerk?) made one of the regulars up there melt down to the point of practically declaring a blood feud against goons.



It's kind of telling that some of the most hilariously vicious and dickish political backstabbing that goons got up too took place in that school. For instance, someone else mentioned it but we taunted one of our rivals in the school into killing one of our newbies shortly before the martial art competition that determines who controls the school.

Normally that would be fine for the murderer since newbies aren't really in a position to do anything about someone higher up just curb stomping them 1v1. However that newbie was given a massive amount of money to put a bounty (Funded by goons, of course.) on them. And he was due to compete for the position of one of the controlling ranks in the school. If he died that would effectively see him locked up in a jail cell for hours of real time. Meaning they'd be stuck raging futilely behind bars as a goon chosen candidate ganked their position from them and took control of part of the school.

This was essentially the equivalent of putting a kung-fu hit out on someone's head to subvert the political process. And of course the moment the bounty was active a death squad of goons swooped over the nearby rooftops to annihilate the poor bastard and see him stuck in jail for a good four hours of real time.

Between that and Goons showing up during the time when bidding wars were starting for merchant stalls to lock them down and demand "protection" money we were basically roleplaying the game and clan better than anyone else by virtue of operating a kung-fu mafia and shadow dictatorship.


Edit: Also, there was that time I started dropping Glenn Beck-esque and increasingly circular political ads in chat towards one of the Vietnamese super-guild's guild leaders during a voting session in the school to determine it's leader. This was a few tournaments after the aforementioned kung-fu assassination. So everyone was starting to get really leery of goons and their political shenanigans. We're talking "people wanting controlling positions in the school showed up to the school with bodyguards" paranoid.

But really, it was stuff that was meant to not be taken seriously. Stuff like "We can't prove that (insert annoying/power tripping guild leader wanting school position) didn't murder a hooker in 1987." or "Why has (insert annoying/power tripping guild leader wanting school position) never stated his opinion on child pornography? Is it because he's hiding something? Vote for (Person set against the guild leader), a candidate that -isn't- suspected of being a pedophile and a murderer!".

Thing is, apparently it was so funny to some people in the school that it ended up working. Every time I let out another sleazy faux-political advertisement the number of votes against them went up by a significant amount. In fact, it worked so well that that the Vietnamese guild panicked and started dropping tons of cash on extremely badly worded world announcements to try to counter the propaganda.

TL;DR: Wanderer's Valley was loving hilarious and it's a shame there's not a game like that out on the market right now.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jan 13, 2016

Klaus Kinski
Nov 26, 2007
Der Klaus

Foxhound posted:

Yeah, I think some Saudi prince backed Nihilum and later their other guild Ensidia (both considered among the best in the world). Last Resort (another top tier guild) also had some in it who I'm pretty sure bought their way in. They also founded a internet café based on the guild:
https://www.facebook.com/LastResortUAE/info?tab=overview

I played on kazzak, the same server as last resort during wrath and can confirm there was a shitload of very rich arabs. They were also hated pretty much the same way russians/peruvians etc are now.

We were one of the top tier guilds on the server at the time and a guildie started organizing raids on off days where people got paid a decent sum to get the raid achievement mounts for someone else's character. I think we got around $200 each, which is decent for 2 nights of raiding when you're unemployed and addicted to wow.

The griefing part is that the guy organizing it got paid way more than he said, pocketed $1k+ a week and usually didn't even participate in the raids.

TheRagamuffin
Aug 31, 2008

In Paradox Space, when you cross the line, your nuts are mine.

Double Monocle posted:

It really was.

One of my favorite things was the ability names, which were 100% wulin nonsense.

poo poo like Peck eye and fight for Pearls and Borrow the body to trick the soul

Also Demon Born in Emptiness/Demon Arises from the Void, the easiest to get, griefiest skill, and my introduction to the philosophy of "NO ***SE". :allears:

Magres
Jul 14, 2011
My biggest regrets in Wushu are never having an RG or a WV

My Wudang was really really good at not dying in fights but was the most loving boring class known to man


Tangman was amazing though, I'd just sit on the roofs of the main city and chuck darts at people then hide and do it to enough people that fights would break out.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Double Monocle posted:

One of my favorite things was the ability names, which were 100% wulin nonsense.

poo poo like Peck eye and fight for Pearls and Borrow the body to trick the soul


Yardbomb posted:

Wanderer's Valley had a loving move called "Murder the Gods and Destroy the Buddha" :black101:

Hell one of their movesets was "Bone Corrosion Palm"


TheRagamuffin posted:

Also Demon Born in Emptiness/Demon Arises from the Void, the easiest to get, griefiest skill, and my introduction to the philosophy of "NO ***SE". :allears:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=520mME1J30w

super sweet best pal
Nov 18, 2009

Yardbomb posted:

Wanderer's Valley had a loving move called "Murder the Gods and Destroy the Buddha" :black101:

Hell one of their movesets was "Bone Corrosion Palm"

Bone Corrosion Palm was an amazing set. It had an AoE damage field that stunned anyone who tried to escape it and an anti-air skill that applied a slowing debuff that did a ton of damage if the victim tried to keep using flying skills.

Archonex posted:

It's kind of telling that some of the most hilariously vicious and dickish political backstabbing that goons got up too took place in that school. For instance, someone else mentioned it but we taunted one of our rivals in the school into killing one of our newbies shortly before the martial art competition that determines who controls the school.

It had a ton of goons because it was the least strict of all the schools, the only school rule was "Don't kill other WV members". The Royal Guards were almost as lax, theirs were "Don't kill other RG members" and "Don't run around in your underwear".

ugh its Troika
May 2, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Swordsman Online was pretty good for griefing too, but everyone quit en masse after a month :(

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

Unguided posted:

It had a ton of goons because it was the least strict of all the schools, the only school rule was "Don't kill other WV members". The Royal Guards were almost as lax, theirs were "Don't kill other RG members" and "Don't run around in your underwear".

It wasn't just goons, funnily enough. Really, as we ended up taking over more and more of the school through political dickery and became more noticeable it turned out that just about everyone who joined WV without prior knowledge of the martial arts skills it offered was playing it to play a villain. Which was fitting since it was basically the anarchist villain school of the bunch.

Thing is, most of them were willing but just didn't know how to go about being a bastard within the confines of the game. So to rectify that we started hosting lessons on how to be a properly evil little poo poo for some of the chiller pubbies. We basically became kung-fu Sith, apprentices and all. :allears:

Ironically this meant that we buddied up to a ton of people who were just as bloodthirsty and malicious as us. I remember that for awhile there we were sponsoring pubbies to take positions we didn't have the time to hold. Which only served to increase our popularity since those were typically reserved for whales or larger guilds. Meanwhile the other guilds who chose it for the benefit of being a min-maxer were trapped in a school full of people that were gradually turning against them and had no compunction against murdering people who didn't meet the "purple standard".

Did we ever figure out a way to screw with people over the whole RG "No nudity allowed!" thing? I forget if armor would de-equip when it broke but that seems like it could have been a good way to mess with people.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Jan 13, 2016

Shalhavet
Dec 10, 2010

This post is terrible
Doctor Rope
Demon Heart Chain Hand also had a move called Magical Rampage. This basically functioned as a suicide bomb; normally it would give you 50% damage reduction. After 10 seconds, it dealt whatever damage was absorbed to you and everyone around, most likely killing you.

Towards the end of the game, when they added the secret factions, I became aware of several fascinating things. The first was that they had added a number of absurdly rare recipes and special dart skills. They were very poorly translated even by Wushu standards, but one in particular stood out to me: Bodhi Blood. Bodhi Blood was a pellet skill that, for five seconds, would silence whoever got hit with it each second. Not in a lock-your-skills sort of way, but it would interrupt ANY ability in progress. Even abilities with super armor like Scholar spin2win or the Ancient Tai Chi Fist rage move. I used it to beat down several of the p2w nerds that bet the farm on that set.

The second was Palace of Shifting Flowers' Seven Techniques of the Flower Goddess. This was basically kung-fu lasers fired from a thimble. If you landed Descent of the Flower Goddess, they'd get tossed into the air while you perform your best Macross missile swarm impression. That ability wasn't the important one. That place is reserved for Grafting.

Grafting posted:

When you are hit while this buff is in effect, you gain "Yellow Armor", and the damage you would otherwise receive is transferred to a random target in a 10-meter radius. Lasting several seconds, this effect will not take place if there are no enemies nearby. This skill cannot be used in the air.

That's fun and all, but how can we break this? Well, they also added pages 6-8 of the martial instance sets, including Magical Rampage. This brought the damage absorption up to 80%, while still lasting 10 seconds. The cooldown between sets was about 7 seconds. I tested the combination of Magical Rampage and Grafting with one of the Shinobros, can't remember who, but he was a pretty beefy Beggar with around 18k hp. The interaction between the skills meant that the damage Magical Rampage would have dealt to me was reflected by Grafting, effectively doubling its damage against a single target, and for the next few guild wars I would sit on the lions and vaporize people trying to AoE them down.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com
"It had an AoE damage field that stunned anyone who tried to escape it "


Lmao what the gently caress that game must have been great to just piss people off goddamn

Archonex
May 2, 2012

MY OPINION IS SEERS OF THE THRONE PROPAGANDA IGNORE MY GNOSIS-IMPAIRED RAMBLINGS

verbal enema posted:

"It had an AoE damage field that stunned anyone who tried to escape it "


Lmao what the gently caress that game must have been great to just piss people off goddamn

To be fair, from what I recall the actual set it belonged too was complete poo poo in normal play.

Thing is, when you mixed it with a horde of goons it became something hilarious. It didn't matter if you did poo poo damage outside of a few gimmicks so long as there were ten of you just laying down AOE's everywhere and perma-stunning every player in a half mile radius.

Also it was completely broken if you brought it to the PVE-P assassination contracts. The game had a feature that let you zone in to fight on the side of bosses in dungeons. Think a sort of Dark Souls-esque invasion feature. Being able to bring a set that stun locked was really powerful in those cases. Especially if the boss had a dangerous AOE. Being able to bring a set that had an AOE stun lock could wipe entire unprepared groups in a matter of seconds.

The first set was a lot like that too. Only it was focused on 1v1. It took skill to do, but it was entirely possible to permanently lock someone into an aerial juggle combo that knocked them up, down, etc, etc. And with more than one goon using the set it was much easier to pull off. Playing "human pong" with a few other goons who knew how to use the set to knock people back and forth between each other was a thing for awhile.

I really wasn't overstating how much of an utter prick Tangman and Wanderer's Valley could be in that :words: post. They were literally built from the ground up for inducing keyboard breaking amounts of rage.

Archonex fucked around with this message at 06:48 on Jan 13, 2016

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

Magres posted:

Age of wushu really was kung pow: the game, hilariously bad translations and all

There was a site where people would drop anonymous complaints against their company. One was from a translation company where they did a good job translating but the chinese company that hired them had a second team look over their stuff and they literally changed every part of it. They did it so it didn't make sense, but it looked like the second company was doing their job and the first job was not.

In the age of wushu game files, there were two english translation sets and it literally looked just like the complaint. We used the bad translation and not the good one.

VoLaTiLe
Oct 21, 2010

He's Behind you
Wushu was alot of fun ganking people with insane numbers then simply typing "lol owned" got many p2w kung fu masters to rage at me and demand a "fair one on one fight"

I also remember the time we griefed this annoying streamer some asian chick called serenity or something, I remember people puking on her. I don't remember what happened at the end but it was loving funny stopping her from escaping with my RG while the beggers puked all over her haha

Magres
Jul 14, 2011

Third World Reggin posted:

There was a site where people would drop anonymous complaints against their company. One was from a translation company where they did a good job translating but the chinese company that hired them had a second team look over their stuff and they literally changed every part of it. They did it so it didn't make sense, but it looked like the second company was doing their job and the first job was not.

In the age of wushu game files, there were two english translation sets and it literally looked just like the complaint. We used the bad translation and not the good one.

Holy gently caress I never heard about that before now. That's absolutely amazing. Was there any significant info hidden in there that we never gleaned from doing trial and error? I remember a lot of times where we couldn't figure out what was going on from the tooltip and having to goon science our way into some kind of comprehension of game mechanics.

God that game was a beautiful clusterfuck and I hope someone relaunches it and doesn't mismanage it horribly this time. A pipe dream, I know, but a man can dream.

VoLaTiLe posted:

Wushu was alot of fun ganking people with insane numbers then simply typing "lol owned" got many p2w kung fu masters to rage at me and demand a "fair one on one fight"

The best way to do this by far was to do the bait and switch of putting a huge bounty on them for goons to collect and pass back to you. Nothing worse than having your e-honor duel turn into a six hour jail sentence featuring Go and goon synchronized dancing


Good god Wushu needs another shot at life. It was the perfect mix of amazing in so many of the right ways and so bad it was good in a lot of even better ways.

Magres fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jan 13, 2016

AxisofIdiocy
Mar 5, 2009

What do you mean this
isn't the ketchup?

VoLaTiLe posted:


I also remember the time we griefed this annoying streamer some asian chick called serenity or something, I remember people puking on her. I don't remember what happened at the end but it was loving funny stopping her from escaping with my RG while the beggers puked all over her haha

This sounds magical.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

So I never played Chinagame but it sounds amazing. What was the political situation within the game? Why do all stories involve "the Vietnamese" ? Was there just some huge group of vietnamese players that ran the most powerful guilds?

Tarezax
Sep 12, 2009

MORT cancels dance: interrupted by MORT

Baronjutter posted:

So I never played Chinagame but it sounds amazing. What was the political situation within the game? Why do all stories involve "the Vietnamese" ? Was there just some huge group of vietnamese players that ran the most powerful guilds?

That's pretty much the gist of it. Goons ended up allying with 4chan, a Chinese guild, a major English-speaking guild, and a couple Vietnamese guilds that thought those other Viets were assholes.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

Baronjutter posted:

So I never played Chinagame but it sounds amazing. What was the political situation within the game? Why do all stories involve "the Vietnamese" ? Was there just some huge group of vietnamese players that ran the most powerful guilds?

There was a huge group of Vietnamese players who played the Chinese release of the Chinagame, but quit to go play on the American servers so they wouldn't have to deal with the Chinese players, whom they had some kind of beef with. Just racism? Something more? Who knows, they didn't speak English and I don't speak Vietnamese. But they had played the game for years before the Americans and knew all the bugs and exploits that had been patched out in later versions of the game, so they had a tremendous advantage--most notably, snapping up all the good skill books with easy to get money early in the game's lifecycle, when everyone else didn't know which skills were good or how to grind out money. So while we were elbowing each other and giggling at the description of the basic sword technique, "Strike them with violence. Stab stably and stab," they were using the Wudang Internal Style #2 along with the flowing scholar sword style to kill everyone for the first few months of the game.

I mean, there was nothing really wrong with them, honestly. They were a group of guilds that maintained friendly relations with each other, had good group unity due to a shared cultural heritage, and played to win. In short, they were the perfect foe to us Goons, who love a large group of excitable players to poke with sticks. The only better targets than the Vietnamese were twitch streamers, because if you locked them in jail for six hours they'd yell at you for interfering with their livelihood.

Ultimately clan wars became unwinnable when they started using techniques to have key characters become invincible during the war events. You can't stop someone from capturing a throneroom if your attacks don't work. That was about when I stopped playing, because if I couldn't take the other kids' toys away, what's the goddamn point? Also I think there was some big patch in World of Warcraft or something.

Jackard
Oct 28, 2007

We Have A Bow And We Wish To Use It
The way I heard it they got their rear end beat by the Chinese and fled to this new, unspoiled land

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
I love seeing all the lies I spread in wushu being told as truths here.

Also lol secret was the main streamer people griefed. A 16 year old girl who started crying in twitch about 30 people following her around and loving with her the entire time.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Third World Reggin posted:

I love seeing all the lies I spread in wushu being told as truths here.

Also lol secret was the main streamer people griefed. A 16 year old girl who started crying in twitch about 30 people following her around and loving with her the entire time.

Speaking of twitch griefing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_QyunQ31Ok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Yrzx_Pse4

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006

Third World Reggin posted:

I love seeing all the lies I spread in wushu being told as truths here.

Also lol secret was the main streamer people griefed. A 16 year old girl who started crying in twitch about 30 people following her around and loving with her the entire time.

Please tell me somebody kept a recording of this.

Edit: those two videos make me really uncomfortable, especially the latter one. Dude is tormenting a stupid kid. What the gently caress. How is this funny? This is awful.

Dick Burglar fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 15, 2016

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
Any videos of the syncronized goon dances?

DreadLlama
Jul 15, 2005
Not just for breakfast anymore

Dick Burglar posted:

Please tell me somebody kept a recording of this.

The video was posted in this very thread, sometime between December 2012 and March 2013.

VoLaTiLe
Oct 21, 2010

He's Behind you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX-xKlfaBNk

Its not great there was one from her perspective but this is the only one I can find

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Dick Burglar posted:

Please tell me somebody kept a recording of this.

Edit: those two videos make me really uncomfortable, especially the latter one. Dude is tormenting a stupid kid. What the gently caress. How is this funny? This is awful.

From what I gathered from the second one, the griefer offered a service to reverse VAC bans but needed account credentials in order to do it. It's pretty loving harsh but honestly if you're dumb enough to A) pay for hacks and B) believe that someone offering a service to un-ban your account if you only give them your account credentials will actually work, then you really kind of brought this upon yourself.

Dick Burglar
Mar 6, 2006
I figured that part out. That's not the thing that bothers me, because yeah that's pretty bog standard dickery. It's the latter part that gets me: the griefer seems to have called the kid later to "check up on him" and taunt him when the kid is clearly flipping poo poo. He even harasses the kid's mom. You're supposed to mess with the kid for an hour and then dump his account back in his lap, not hang onto it long enough for everyone to absolutely lose their minds and then proceed to further harass the poo poo out of them when they're already in meltdown mode.

The griefer seemed to be so entertained by the fact that he had caused legitimate familial strife. What the gently caress.

Sjonnar
Oct 22, 2011

Dick Burglar posted:

The griefer seemed to be so entertained by the fact that he had caused legitimate familial strife. What the gently caress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy#Sociopathy

At least he's just making GBS threads on a stupid kid. Besides, it was amusing.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012
Yeah, it got really dark toward the end.

Here's something a little more light-hearted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxH30-EagTc

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


Segmentation Fault posted:

Yeah, it got really dark toward the end.

Here's something a little more light-hearted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxH30-EagTc

Griefed by his own butt. What's with family dining table cam?

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Hihohe posted:

Griefed by his own butt. What's with family dining table cam?
Laugh-cam for when he runs by making GBS threads his pants.

AxisofIdiocy
Mar 5, 2009

What do you mean this
isn't the ketchup?
I've seen a lot of baffling poo poo in low-level streams, but the "look who decided to finally come upstairs" cam is a mystery to me.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

AxisofIdiocy posted:

I've seen a lot of baffling poo poo in low-level streams, but the "look who decided to finally come upstairs" cam is a mystery to me.

The guy's a twitch partner according to his shirt so I assume he has a following?

The real mystery is why anyone is watching him buy stuff on Amazon, and why he's streaming it.

Hypha
Sep 13, 2008

:commissar:

AxisofIdiocy posted:

I've seen a lot of baffling poo poo in low-level streams, but the "look who decided to finally come upstairs" cam is a mystery to me.

The "I have no son" cam.

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Hihohe posted:

Griefed by his own butt

a shameful streamer

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