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Every stadium should have a roof in the year of our lord 3016. Without one everyone knows the mutants will over-heat and the clone vats just can't keep up.
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Volkerball posted:right back into this bullshit Stop being shits and let them move to San Jose goddammit
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Ozu posted:The Portland Raiders is happening. It's not. No one here really cares outside a very small group
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Makes sense. If Chargers are just occupying Kroenke's stadium when the Rams aren't playing, Spanos and co will probably get zero (or very little) income from vendors/parking/advertising. I doubt Chargers would be able to buy enough season seats to compete with the Rams offering a better product in the same location (in a more dynamic division)?
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Ross Angeles posted:Jim Trotter on ESPN just said that he talked to an owner and he told him that Kroenke's Inglewood project is going to be about 2.7 billion dollars. How do stadiums get that expensive. US Bank stadium is 1.0 billion. How do you get 270% more expensive than that for the same total product. I would guess the land price in Inglewood vs. Downtown Minneapolis don't make up the difference.
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Ozu posted:The Portland Raiders is happening. Portland will never get a second pro team.
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Qwijib0 posted:Gillette, Reliant, Ford and UOP were all built for ~500M. Energy prices are low, China is in a slump and Oakland has a climate where dome is not required. There's no reason a new Oakland facility needs to be more than $600M. That 100M plus G-4 matching funds means davis would only have to find $250M of financing. With inflation, you can't really get it done for less than 8-900 million. Davis was already offering $500 million in a deal that was going nowhere.
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Bip Roberts posted:How do stadiums get that expensive. US Bank stadium is 1.0 billion. How do you get 270% more expensive than that for the same total product. I would guess the land price in Inglewood vs. Downtown Minneapolis don't make up the difference. The point is that if Spanos wants to go in as an equity partner, he's responsible for 1.35 billion of that. That's basically the Spanos family's net worth. So that's not happening.
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Bip Roberts posted:How do stadiums get that expensive. US Bank stadium is 1.0 billion. How do you get 270% more expensive than that for the same total product. I would guess the land price in Inglewood vs. Downtown Minneapolis don't make up the difference. Higher land costs, higher minimum wage, more population density means a lot of logistical obstacles, etc. Still ridiculous, though.
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Bip Roberts posted:How do stadiums get that expensive. US Bank stadium is 1.0 billion. How do you get 270% more expensive than that for the same total product. I would guess the land price in Inglewood vs. Downtown Minneapolis don't make up the difference. He's building a gigantic rear end facility that could host the Olympics and poo poo like that. Bunch of stores and god knows what else. It's intentionally gaudy.
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Bip Roberts posted:How do stadiums get that expensive. US Bank stadium is 1.0 billion. How do you get 270% more expensive than that for the same total product. I would guess the land price in Inglewood vs. Downtown Minneapolis don't make up the difference. Restaurants, Bars, premium finishes, gobs of suites.
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And kick-backs like you wouldn't believe.
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DO YALL WANT A HAM posted:portland is a garbage city its filled with entitled volunteer homeless people who will quickly make you feel like a hardcore bootstrap republican because they really are huge pieces of lazy poo poo. last time i got yelled at for not giving someone money and also was told to go to the ATM to get a person money i poo poo you not. beautiful city buy ahhaha its loving embarassing also we dont need another dome stadium because you KNOW thats what they would build there
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chupacabraTERROR posted:If Kroenke can just not negotiate in good faith on the lease with either team, couldn't he just de-facto own LA by himself? Like what's to stop him from just being a dick at the lease negotiations? Absolutely nothing
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Man this Twitter embed thing has made this thread hell to read in the Awful app. Where are the Chargers supposed to play if they decide to move this year? Did the Coliseum drop their "one NFL team" limit?
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Kevyn posted:Man this Twitter embed thing has made this thread hell to read in the Awful app. There are rumblings about that, yeah
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It really seems like the most pressing issue was completely neglected today. If the Inglewood plan were to include a 2nd tenant, the terms of that deal should have been priority numero loving uno. Yet they just punted, effectively giving Kroenke complete control of the situation.
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Rams Raiders get Jerome Bettis and Meryvn Fernandez back and lets rooooooll.
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fuuuck https://twitter.com/JimTrotter_NFL/status/687130744276271104
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Bip Roberts posted:Portland will never get a second pro team. Is the first one pro lacrosse?
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Kroebnke is actually a baller, perfect fit for this toilet of a town
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urgh gently caress kroenke he's such a piece of poo poo in football he's making me hate the avalanche.
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Ozu posted:Is the first one pro lacrosse? Soccer  Although to be fair they literally just won whatever the Super Bowl of american soccer is. The Super Cup? The Hipster bowl? So many loving scarves Febreeze fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Jan 13, 2016 |
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Febreeze posted:Soccer Well the Blazers too 
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Barudak posted:There is extremely lovely American football in China and one of their teams is a bit of a slur against the inhabitants of the city they play in and another is goddamn pandas. Bears and slurs against the natives as team names? Sounds like they are doing football the American way.
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Hundred mil is plenty of money to buy the rusted out carrier for Skull Boat. You don't even need to spend money on the nuclear bits, the coal powered engines that spew black smoke just add to the atmosphere.
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I feel like an NFL team in Portland has the chance to bring Supporter Group drama into football, and I think that sounds absolutely hilarious.
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This is $190m brand new.  just make it a little boxier so you can fit the stands on there, give it a sick rear end paint job, and you're fuckin golden, what's the problem.
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LEGO Genetics posted:holy poo poo the Rams stadium is barely twenty years old? why don't we just lift it up and transport it to Oakland Maybe its like how you can't sell a car because you haven't finished paying it off yet. You gotta get that pink slip first.
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Volkerball posted:This is $190m brand new. Every game is a home game!
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Maybe its like how you can't sell a car because you haven't finished paying it off yet. You gotta get that pink slip first. yeah but we just got 100 million baby, that'll pay off St. Louis, Missouri, the NFl and whoever else we need to transport that place brick by brick we can even ask to use those vibranium engines that Ultron used to lift up that city
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so wait Kroenke just basically won dibs on LA and can now screw the ever living daylights outta the other two owners? AFTER all 3 teams basically burned their bridges outta town and pissed on the ashes?  NFL owners, never change you money-hungry bastards
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Bears and slurs against the natives as team names? Sounds like they are doing football the American way. Great news, they've also got players spitting on each other and forced public apologies over their fans behavior stemming from issues between Hong Kong and the Mainland so they're only a team named after a bird away from having a functioning NFC East.
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Excelzior posted:so wait Kroenke just basically won dibs on LA and can now screw the ever living daylights outta the other two owners? i feel this is an appropriate video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07G23zMGa4g
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Ozu posted:The Portland Raiders is happening. Do they even sell plaid jerseys?
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Even though it was the most obvious thing in the world, Kroenke ending up being the only person in this whole loving debacle who actually got what he wanted is still amazing to me
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Excelzior posted:so wait Kroenke just basically won dibs on LA and can now screw the ever living daylights outta the other two owners? The Billionaire's Version of gently caress You, Got Mine
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