homullus posted:

"These beings with alien physiology, explicitly able to do things humans cannot (e.g. Podrace), do not act the way humans do IRL! THIS MOVIE R DUM!"

BrianWilly posted:

Humans can podrace. Did you...watch the movie?

Basebf555 posted:

Normal humans can never podrace, our reflexes are too slow. Anakin is a very rare exception.

Basebf555 posted:

Normal humans can never podrace, our reflexes are too slow. Anakin is a very rare exception.

Jerkface posted:

Waffles Inc. posted:

Holy poo poo that bottom one is awesome

Is there any lore or fluff about it in the book?

piratepilates posted:

It doesn't really matter if it's possible that the alien had some weird alien difference that made it not react as a human would expect because 'weird aliens who do not react as a human would expect' are not the audience of the movie. The aliens in the movie are weirdo aliens who do things weirdly but they still at some point must have something that humans would be empathetical towards or it the viewer would not be affected by it. You could make a case towards the intention of the Tatooine aliens' reactions (or lack thereof) but it falls flat to most viewers and would just come off as bad acting by not having any reactions. Also it doesn't make as much sense when it's not just the one planet of weirdo aliens but three movies for a combined 7 hours where even the human actors don't seem to react to any CG.

And furthermore, I thought the podrace scene was not only the best scene of TPM, but also a genuinely entertaining scene -- as opposed to the rest of the movie!

Cnut the Great posted:

Even if this wasn't the nitpickiest of nitpicks, I don't get what the problem here is supposed to be:



This is the closest the thing ever gets to intersecting his path. It's not flying "right in his face." He even seems to glance at it as it flies past him to his left. I don't know about you, but I usually don't have a freak out when I'm out in public and someone happens to stroll past me at a normal distance.

When there's actual poo poo going on the prequels that it makes sense for people to be reacting to, they do react to it.

wyoming posted:

Skull-face Cosmonaut is my new fav. Star Wars character.

Jerkface posted:

The distinctive female protocol droid in Maz's cantina is a bounty hunter*


*according to the art book, and a lady bot

piratepilates posted:

droid thing flying around wasn't my choice of example. I'd go for the Obi-wan dropping down to Grievous scene in Episode 3 when Grievous pulls out like four lightsabres and Ewan McGregor doesn't even make any movement at all, as if he had no idea what was happening in that shot.

Cnut the Great posted:

What is he supposed to do? Piss his pants? The whole point is that he's totally calm about the whole situation, and isn't fazed at all. The shot immediately after Grievous's arms split apart shows Obi-Wan calmly smirking like it's all just a joke to him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXTFdDrd7pA&t=23s

piratepilates posted:

Probably like anything, the close-up shot afterwards is very appropriate to the scene and this shot alone doesn't bring down the movie, but it is an example of a time where the actor clearly doesn't have a cue towards what the CG character is doing. He should probably move his lightsabre in to a ready position or move his body a bit, or even flinch why not! Big baddie over there has like 4 four lightsabres and is waving them around in his vicinity, he should probably react when that happens (and not just in the reverse shot where he does in close-up, some body acting in the same shot is what I mean).

piratepilates posted:

Oh yeah that post reminds me of the behind the scenes video of the big jedi fight in episode 2 where they're all just flailing around in real life because it was all done in CG.

Now what THAT reminded me of was something I found really funny in Episode 7 which is that every time someone uses the force (Ren mind-raping Rey, Ren force-holding Poe and Rey) the actors had to actually pretend that that was happening in real life. I just get this hilarious picture in my head of these two actors with no music or effects added, just two actors standing there doing make-pretend as if they couldn't move because big baddie over there is using the force.

Jerkface posted:

drat who is going to win this battle of taking screen caps from the movie to show this droid is very close to this guy



Since you're very good at screencapping CNUT, please gif this entire moment so you can not only see this guy just stroll on through the droids path but also the guy coming around the corner who also just strolls on through.

Lucas filmed a shot of a street, and then added a droid later, and they just flew the droid around all the actual actors and none of them were told a droid was going to be there. It is a nitpick, but its simply an example of the kind of poor CGI-real set integration that goes on in the prequels.

You could look at my previous gif I posted of Obi-wan essentially walking through 2 CGI battle droids for a better example. Or like...any fight of Jedis vs battle droids.

edit: and no the guy moves his head to the left while the droid is still to the right/in front, he doesnt react to the droid at all.

Cnut the Great posted:

Also, why does everyone put my name in all caps? It's not an acronym.

Cnut the Great posted:

The droid is well to that guy's left there. And the droid never really gets in the other guy's way, either. I don't think the extras were given any direction except, "Stroll along the street and glance around a bit." Because that's all they needed to do for the scene to make sense. The droid never actually does anything to make anyone take any particular notice of it. It's just some droid to them. If it wasn't, it would be a pretty lovely spy droid.

I don't think I have to make any gifs to prove that people walk past each other on the street all the time without stopping in their tracks and doing dramatic double-takes for the sake of the invisible camera. Hell, sometimes I don't even glance at strangers who walk right by me! (I mean, hypothetically speaking. Obviously, I never actually leave my mom's basement.)

Also, why does everyone put my name in all caps? It's not an acronym.

Soggy Cereal posted:

It is the year 2050 and Episode XIII is being released. I am demanding that we return to the CGI heyday of the sequel and prequel trilogies, not this practical garbage from the second sequel trilogy and the so-called "original" trilogy. Just how George Abrams intended.

BrianWilly posted:

Anakin is a human and he podraces. Therefore, humans can podrace. Hell, Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are also human, but they could do it too. No matter how far down this semantic pisshole we go, it'll still come out the same.

I'm not even sure what point it would prove if humans couldn't podrace? The idea that CGI creations can do a CGI thing, therefore it's silly to expect them to react to non-CGI things believably?

Red posted:

The Separatist movement in the PT isn't actually evil, right? There are evil people behind it, but seceding from the Republic isn't inherently bad. Why can't there be heroes?

Red posted:

The Separatist movement in the PT isn't actually evil, right? There are evil people behind it, but seceding from the Republic isn't inherently bad. Why can't there be heroes?

piratepilates posted:

There can, but they're framed as the opposition/enemy in the movies, and I can't remember any character that was really a 'hero'. Dooku and Grievous are both villains (they even both get in to big climactic fights with the heroes of the movie). I guess you can say they are war heroes as in they are major players in the war but in the movie's terms (and Star Wars, at least in the OT, is so drat plain good vs evil) they are not heroes.

turtlecrunch posted:

Jerkface posted:

Disgusting.

Rick McCallum posted:

It's so dense. Every single image has so many things going on.

computer parts posted:

I think a gif of that scene would probably be more useful than individual screen caps.

turtlecrunch posted: