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Harime Nui posted:Something of value was lost to Quentin, that's been my point all along And Quentin Tarantino is not a person you should be going to bat for. quote:LOS ANGELES — Film producer Don Murphy is suing "Pulp Fiction" director Quentin Tarantino for $5 million, accusing the movie wunderkind of assaulting him. He's not a nice person.
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Effectronica posted:H8ful 8 was a better movie than Star Wars Episode VII, let's be absolutely clear here. Sweet Jesus, never occurred to me to say that because.... well, no poo poo, right? Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Jan 15, 2016 17:04
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Quentin Tarantino offended everybody by calling movie composing a "ghetto" while accepting an award for Best Original Score on behalf of Ennio Morricone at the Golden Globes. There, now him and Disney are balanced in evil and you can go see TFA.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:04
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:And Quentin Tarantino is not a person you should be going to bat for. So basically by bringing this up, you're just conceding Disney are being total pieces of poo poo in the case I brought up, and there's really no way to dress it up here
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Jan 15, 2016 17:05
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If punching someone is enough to make it justified to ratfuck them out of greed, I know a shitload of people I should be defrauding.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:05
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Also Star Wars: The Force Awakens is much better than Hateful Eight, let's be absolutely clear here.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:06
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Harime Nui posted:Fundamentally I think, you think just because a business does what is best for that business to keep existing, that should be okay, I mean, they could have chosen to take the less viable choice on principle but they didn't so gently caress principles right haha? Like theaters everywhere are in dire loving straits right now so gently caress it, whatever. The theater actually did try to fight it until Disney was like "we will seriously just drop a moneyhammer on your stupid rear end," (this is admittedly according to QT's account but I doubt he'd lie on national radio), then they had to call Quentin and tell him his movie wasn't playing over the holidays afterall. This is not a business that can afford to thumb its nose at the more profitable option, feelings aside, but that doesn't make what happened less wrong or less of a petty and mean moneygrab on the part of Disney which already had the most profitable movie in the world coming out. When I said "okay" I meant I agree that what happened was wrong. "Can't afford to thumb its nose at the more profitable option" though? Part of percentage deals for movies in general is a basic allowance to keep the theater operational. So, again, I agree, it was wrong, but I am inferring here that you think it was OK for his theater to sell him out. (Y/n)?
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turtlecrunch posted:Also Star Wars: The Force Awakens is much better than Hateful Eight, let's be absolutely clear here. Grow a thicker skin, kiddo.
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Harime Nui posted:They didn't have to do this but they basically ruined Quentin Tarantino's christmas. So just as the Vikings got hosed by the hand of God for ruining the christmas of Eli Manning, gently caress these guys. Are you friends with Tarantino or something? If you're not why are you taking it so personally? Yeah, it's lovely on Disney's part but why are you white knighting for some rich guy that does not know you from Adam? Go see it in 70mm in one the 8 other theaters showing the Road Show in LA. I saw it in 70mm at the Music Box in Chicago. If I was told I could not see it there I would have gone to see it at the Showplace Icon. It does not effect me one way or the other. Disney has more clout and they threw their weight around. It sucks but poo poo happens. E: Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:No, I'm saying you framing this as some sort of Holy War and enacting your own personal one man boycott and then retreating to an internet forum to try to rally others is embarrassing. Sums it up better than I could have. ZoCrowes fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jan 15, 2016 |
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Harime Nui posted:So basically by bringing this up, you're just conceding Disney are being total pieces of poo poo in the case I brought up, and there's really no way to dress it up here No, I'm saying you framing this as some sort of Holy War and enacting your own personal one man boycott and then retreating to an internet forum to try to rally others is embarrassing.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:08
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Disney did nothing wrong.
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homullus posted:When I said "okay" I meant I agree that what happened was wrong. "Can't afford to thumb its nose at the more profitable option" though? Part of percentage deals for movies in general is a basic allowance to keep the theater operational. So, again, I agree, it was wrong, but I am inferring here that you think it was OK for his theater to sell him out. (Y/n)? Why the gently caress does that matter? Look, I'm calling Disney Bug]sy Moran here, and you're saying "but the theater was Joe Fuxciss! What about Joe Fuxciss! He ran numbers!" Ultimately it's between Tarantino and that theater and I'm sure he'll do business with them again, but seriously who the gently caress cares, Disney's the instigator, Disney's the 800 lb. gorilla, gently caress them. e: Bugsy Moran, gently caress
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Nobody's defending what Disney did, it was lovely, but all Hollywood is is lovely people doing horrible poo poo to each other all day, every day. There are suspected (and known) rapists, pedophiles, and murderers who are allowed to go about their business because they're popular, powerful, and profitable. Any given movie probably has the most horrific poo poo you can imagine perpetrated somewhere in its production. Are you going to just stop seeing all movies ever? Probably not. So, I mean, excuse me if I don't exactly lose my poo poo over this. EDIT: Totbot posted:Disney did nothing wrong. Nobody is unironically defending what Disney did.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:No, I'm saying you framing this as some sort of Holy War and enacting your own personal one man boycott and then retreating to an internet forum to try to rally others is embarrassing. I'm glad that you're enough of a brandvocate to deride not seeing a movie as embarrassing. It's a hell of a world we live in.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:11
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Disney created about %50 of the things I love and bought another 25% of the things I love. And they've taken good care of those things, they can do whatever the gently caress they want.
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Hateful 8 is boring and stupid, one of his worst - lol at caring about his baby war.
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No, gently caress Disney. It's really that simple.
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Harime Nui posted:Why the gently caress does that matter? Look, I'm calling Disney Busy Moran here, and you're saying "but the theater was Joe Fuxciss! What about Joe Fuxciss! He ran numbers!" Ultimately it's between Tarantino and that theater and I'm sure he'll do business with them again, but seriously who the gently caress cares, Disney's the instigator, Disney's the 800 lb. gorilla, gently caress them. I am saying only Sith deal in absolutes.
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Harime Nui posted:So basically by bringing this up, you're just conceding Disney are being total pieces of poo poo in the case I brought up, and there's really no way to dress it up here Who's even arguing with you that Disney are pieces of poo poo? Of course they are, what is boycotting Star Wars going to do about it? Make you feel better about yourself?
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Basebf555 posted:Who's even arguing with you that Disney are pieces of poo poo? Of course they are, what is boycotting Star Wars going to do about it? Make you feel better about yourself? Is that wrong, that I should feel good about myself? Should I flagellate myself a shitload and then see the new J.J. Abrams movie? homullus posted:I am saying only Sith deal in absolutes. Well, that's.... true
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Basebf555 posted:Who's even arguing with you that Disney are pieces of poo poo? Of course they are, what is boycotting Star Wars going to do about it? Make you feel better about yourself? While personal choices can't overthrow the vampire overlords of late capitalism, wheezing about how ineffectual they are is just childish nihilism. Grow up.
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Phylodox posted:Nobody's defending what Disney did, it was lovely I'll do it. I'll defend what Disney did. gently caress QT and his fake pity party. And gently caress the people naive enough to not see this as what it is: Quentin Tarantino making a mountain out of a molehill to get press for his movie.
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Lotta fake cynics in the Star Wars thread.
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Tarantino did nothing wrong.
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Harime Nui posted:Is that wrong, that I should feel good about myself? Should I flagellate myself a shitload and then see the new J.J. Abrams movie? You shouldn't feel good about yourself because you've accomplished nothing and you aren't really standing for any principles here other than the unconditional love of a guy who makes movies.
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From my point of view Tarantino is evil.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:I'll do it. I'll defend what Disney did. gently caress QT and his fake pity party. And gently caress the people naive enough to not see this as what it is: Quentin Tarantino making a mountain out of a molehill to get press for his movie. There's a certain point where cynicism just turns into plugging your ears and screaming a lot
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turtlecrunch posted:From my point of view Tarantino is evil. I don't like Quentin Tarantino. He's coarse and rough and irritating and he gets everywhere.
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Anyway I've said why I'm not seeing the new Star Wars, but I like all the other ones so eat me bitch
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That's right......... even Attack of the Clones
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Harime Nui posted:There's a certain point where cynicism just turns into plugging your ears and screaming a lot Naivete is the path to the dark side...?
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Well it's fear, I heard.
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Attack of the clones is now owned by Disney. Liking it is literally the same as spitting in our lord and savior Tarantino's face.
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Jan 15, 2016 17:21
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Am I morally obligated to watch Roman Polanski's entire filmography to keep from engaging in a one-man boycott against that pedophile rapist, Disney lovers?
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Let me school your rear end about the hard truths of the movie business
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Effectronica posted:Am I morally obligated to watch Roman Polanski's entire filmography to keep from engaging in a one-man boycott against that pedophile rapist, Disney lovers? A boycott implies there might be tangible results. A fatso on the internet declaring he he won't watch a movie is nothing. It's shouting into the void.
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:No, I'm saying you framing this as some sort of Holy War and enacting your own personal one man boycott and then retreating to an internet forum to try to rally others is embarrassing. He didn't try to rally others, he posted his own reasons for not seeing TFA and people jumped down his goddamn throat. People immediately questioned his reasoning, started insulting Tarantino, at least one person implied that they were going to see the movie again to balance the equation from him boycotting. I don't get why, when someone says "I don't like this, I am going to boycott" complete drat idiots think that their own choices are being challenged. Nobody is saying you are evil for seeing The Force Awakens and supporting Disney, quit acting like dumb assholes and trying to justify Disney's actions goddamn.
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Listen, thanks, but what the gently caress are those things in your avatar this has bugged me for like a year Like I even get the photo reference but WHAT ARE THE YELLOW/PINK GUYS
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Harime Nui posted:Listen, thanks, but what the gently caress are those things in your avatar this has bugged me for like a year Those are Captains Falcon.
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Yaws posted:A boycott implies there might be tangible results. A fatso on the internet declaring he he won't watch a movie is nothing. It's shouting into the void. You're really loving dumb, like holy poo poo. Can you dress yourself? I was referring to the mean-spirited notion that not seeing a movie because of moral qualms is bad and "embarrassing", and you can't even muster up " How dare you compare these things?" What the hell.
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