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sure, but this poor-man's voight-kampff doesn't appear to test for empathy but how much of a dickhead you are or maybe it was meant to test how irritated the player could get?
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JawKnee posted:? You mean because Bethesda didn't think to actually have any of the world change apart from what you the character changed? I am 100% certain the put it back in because THEY thought it was hilarious to subject players to the GOAT test one more time.
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Jan 17, 2016 03:30
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JawKnee posted:? You mean because Bethesda didn't think to actually have any of the world change apart from what you the character changed? aw cmon now I thought the GOAT in there was fun.
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Jan 17, 2016 03:50
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Okay, just finished it with all the achievements. I needed to move it from "Normal" to "Easy" for about half of my first playthrough. Make a lot of extra save files before you start making faction decisions if you want to get the final game achievements. I will say that killing everyone if you choose Brotherhood of Steel (despite them being huge douches) is WAY easier than killing the Brotherhood of Steel while playing anyone else. Thinking of restarting with a build of like super high agility and intelligence and not much else.
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Jan 17, 2016 04:31
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dj_clawson posted:Okay, just finished it with all the achievements. I needed to move it from "Normal" to "Easy" for about half of my first playthrough. Make a lot of extra save files before you start making faction decisions if you want to get the final game achievements. I will say that killing everyone if you choose Brotherhood of Steel (despite them being huge douches) is WAY easier than killing the Brotherhood of Steel while playing anyone else. What level did you finish at, 20?
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Father Wendigo posted:What level did you finish at, 20? Uh.... 81. I did a lot of side quests.
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Jan 17, 2016 05:44
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I swear Bethesda's clever joke of Voight-Kampff test actually has some consistent synth criteria and it's noted on terminal. It's the one about being a pitcher or something? Of course, "consistent" here means "we've had maybe 50 subjects at most, and out of those proven synths took said answer".
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Jan 17, 2016 06:05
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I think it would have been better game design if they'd made it randomly determined whether the captive was actually a synth.
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Jan 17, 2016 07:37
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If you read the terminals the scientists are all like "question 3 is bullshit but I'm getting good things from question 4" and the other guy is like "thats a false positive, question 7 is where its at!" When you meet the head scientist she admits that she is just "pretty sure" that the girl they kidnapped is a synth but isn't torturing a few innocent people worth it for the greater good? So its a pretty hamfisted moral conundrum. Except if you refuse to murder a girl on hearsay everyone in the base tries to murder you. After you escape maybe you think you can convince the townspeople that there is a better way to do things but nope they just suicidally rush out the gates to try to kill you.
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Jan 17, 2016 08:50
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Pwnstar posted:After you escape maybe you think you can convince the townspeople that there is a better way to do things but nope they just suicidally rush out the gates to try to kill you. What? That was the best part! ...the worst part was having to dump a bunch of headless bodies in the lake to clean up the settlement. And some of the gibs just wouldn't move. And the stupid turret vs. turret hostility at Covenant. gently caress that place.
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Jan 17, 2016 08:58
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Turret v Turret fights are the best though! Be sure to have Deacon there to try and taunt!
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Jan 17, 2016 09:44
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I picked up a load of fusion cells doing the first brotherhood of steel quest but I'm starting to run out. Where is a good place/quest line to get more?
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Jan 17, 2016 10:18
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Jose posted:I picked up a load of fusion cells doing the first brotherhood of steel quest but I'm starting to run out. Where is a good place/quest line to get more? You mean the laser ammo, right? Arturo and KLEO usually sell boatloads of the things. The Railroad quests (namely the Switchboard and University Point ones right at the start) also give you shitloads more cells cause you'll be fighting dozens of synths again.
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Jan 17, 2016 10:59
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Jose posted:I picked up a load of fusion cells doing the first brotherhood of steel quest but I'm starting to run out. Where is a good place/quest line to get more? Pick up the Prototype UP77 at the University Point Credit Union and never worry about ammo again. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Prototype_UP77_%22Limitless_Potential%22
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dj_clawson posted:Pick up the Prototype UP77 at the University Point Credit Union and never worry about ammo again. Actually, that one just doesn't need reloading. It still burns through ammo when you fire it.
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Jan 17, 2016 11:31
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New beta patch seems to be handy in being able to assign settlers. I still sometimes see 0 water 0 power on the workshop stats screen though. I think all my happiness percentages have increased though. Still have a bug where night vision doesn't kick in for a really long time when sneaking / doesn't go away for a while. Anybody else have that problem?
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Jan 17, 2016 12:22
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You know what would have been cool? If it was randomly determined that the Protagonist was a synth.
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in what possible way
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:in what possible way The institute downloaded your memories wile Kellog kidnapped Shaun. The memories were then put into a Synth body. After this revelation, going back to Vault 111 will reveal both parents dead in their cryo units. Hints/reveals: A chance of failing the covenant test (humans pass 100% of the time but a synth protagonist will fail it 50% of the time) Flat out revealed by the institute Failing a makeshift blood test by Tinker Tom (no one else in the room takes him seriously and he quickly losses interest and moves on to another topic) Brotherhood test later in the main quest with the option to sabotage it to make the brotherhood believe that you're human after all. Zephyrine fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jan 17, 2016 |
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Jan 17, 2016 13:49
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Zephyrine posted:You know what would have been cool? If it was randomly determined that the Protagonist was a synth. "cool"
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Literal Nazi Furry posted:"cool" Neat?
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Jan 17, 2016 14:28
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yeah that's one word you could try and use to describe that idea lol
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It's no worse than what we already have
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Jan 17, 2016 18:58
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I feel like I should avoid main quest spoilers and then I remember that I've never finished the main quest in a bethesda game because I get bored after doing all the better side quests
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Jan 17, 2016 19:24
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Jose posted:I feel like I should avoid main quest spoilers and then I remember that I've never finished the main quest in a bethesda game because I get bored after doing all the better side quests You nuke the other factions. The end.
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Jan 17, 2016 19:51
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hobbesmaster posted:You nuke Fixed
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I'm trying to get all of the companion perks, and one of the ways that I'd like to do this is to mod weapons around them. What is the cooldown time for this to increase their opinion of me? Thanks!
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yoyodyne posted:I'm trying to get all of the companion perks, and one of the ways that I'd like to do this is to mod weapons around them. What is the cooldown time for this to increase their opinion of me? Thanks! It's normally like a few minutes, but you can get around that by abusing quicksave/load. Just mod the weapon, confirm that they're aroused by said modification (seriously what the hell Danse?), quicksave, load the quicksave and repeat.
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Jan 18, 2016 01:26
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Gonkish posted:It's normally like a few minutes, but you can get around that by abusing quicksave/load. Just mod the weapon, confirm that they're aroused by said modification (seriously what the hell Danse?), quicksave, load the quicksave and repeat. Thanks! I suppose in the case of Danse he would be enamored with someone who knows how to work with machines. He probably always knew on some subconscious level.
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Jan 18, 2016 01:33
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There are some companions you can't max out without doing their side quest, like Cait & Valentine. In Danse's case, you have to get to a certain part of the story.
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Jan 18, 2016 01:57
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I am doing different faction quests, what's the point of no return where I start locking myself out of other factions?
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antidote posted:I am doing different faction quests, what's the point of no return where I start locking myself out of other factions? Usually it will be pretty obvious where the point of no return is and I think in some cases the game will straight up tell you. Be careful with the BoS though, as there's a point where if you're not careful it'll railroad you into being hostile to the Railroad (heh). Just be sure to quicksave before you talk to questgivers and you'll be good.
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Zephyrine posted:Neat? If when you met Father that was the big reveal, it would have at least not completely broken the story the way the actual story does.
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Gobblecoque posted:Usually it will be pretty obvious where the point of no return is and I think in some cases the game will straight up tell you. Be careful with the BoS though, as there's a point where if you're not careful it'll railroad you into being hostile to the Railroad (heh). Just be sure to quicksave before you talk to questgivers and you'll be good. Awesome, thanks for the info!
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What is the best Melee Weapon? I like General Zhao's sword, since it is easy to find, cheap, and decently strong/easy to upgrade. Curious what other people prefer?
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Jan 18, 2016 04:06
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Pickmans blade just wrecks people with the bleed effect.
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Gensuki posted:What is the best Melee Weapon? I like General Zhao's sword, since it is easy to find, cheap, and decently strong/easy to upgrade. Curious what other people prefer? I've been using an Irradiated Super Sledge with Heat Coil upgrade and the Paintrain perk. It's rare that I don't one-shot everything that isn't a Deathclaw, mini-boss or named character.
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Gensuki posted:What is the best Melee Weapon? I like General Zhao's sword, since it is easy to find, cheap, and decently strong/easy to upgrade. Curious what other people prefer? Pickman's Blade is great for non-melee, since it's lightweight and the bleed doesn't depend on STR (right?) I think the best for melee types is the Super Sledge.
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antidote posted:I am doing different faction quests, what's the point of no return where I start locking myself out of other factions? There are probably some weird edge cases I'm missing, but eh: Brotherhood: Talking to Captain Kells in the early part of "Tactical Thinking" makes you hostile with the Railroad. There's no warning for this. Completing the previous quest, "Blind Betrayal," automatically starts it, and while you aren't immediately hostile with the railroad, it still breaks some Railroad quests, effectively locking you out of it. Boarding the Vertibird in "Spoils of War" makes you hostile with the Institute. You do get a warning. Railroad: Failing "Underground Undercover" makes you hostile to the Institute. I don't think the Institute becomes hostile until "The Nuclear Option" otherwise. I *think* that the Brotherhood becomes hostile at the start of " Precipice of War," which begins as soon as you complete "Underground Undercover." Institute: Reacting with hostility when meeting Shaun for the first time makes you hostile to the Institute. Killing a named NPC in "End of the Line" makes you hostile to the Railroad. Teleporting to the Mass Fusion Building in "Mass Fusion" makes the Brotherhood hostile. There's a warning for this. Siding with the Minutemen against the Institute in "Pinned" makes you hostile with the Institute. Killing or Freeing the escaped Synths in "The Battle of Bunker Hill" and then telling Shaun you did it on purpose will make you hostile with the Institute. Pakled fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jan 18, 2016 |
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