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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

I don't think those are the kind of trucks that go from one job site to another. They get them to the mine somehow, and they just stay there until the mine closes or they're scrapped.

Fun fact: I hear one tire costs about $70,000.

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Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Kids: "Are we lost?"
Bus driver: "Shut the hell up and let me think! Jesus Christ, did we shrink?"

That's obviously the Magic School Bus and the kids are on an adventure.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Sagebrush posted:

I don't think those are the kind of trucks that go from one job site to another. They get them to the mine somehow, and they just stay there until the mine closes or they're scrapped.

Fun fact: I hear one tire costs about $70,000.

A Caterpillar engineer I was chatting with once explained that a lot of those rigs are custom designed specific to the job site, and yeah, they're shipped in parts. Still really loving big parts, but a little bit more manageable.

When an order is in discussions, they'll send the engineers to the work site to get requirements and survey the area to make sure they can deliver the proper machinery.

iForge
Oct 28, 2010

Apple's new "iBlacksmith Suite: Professional Edition" features the iForge, iAnvil, and the iHammer.
There's a time lapse gif of a group assembling one of those at a mine that's been posted before. I'm phone posting so I can't look for it easily though.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Yeah those giant mining trucks are pretty much built in situ.

Edit: Using construction cranes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAVYizVoLww

Collateral Damage fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jan 21, 2016

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
there ought to be a law and government subsidies so they can drive from the factory to their destination and maybe crush some junkyard cars as a sort of rolling monster truck show

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
mining mayhem on facebook is a great place to see a bunch of crazy heavy equipment in percuriouse situations.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


Sagebrush posted:

I don't think those are the kind of trucks that go from one job site to another. They get them to the mine somehow, and they just stay there until the mine closes or they're scrapped.

Fun fact: I hear one tire costs about $70,000.

Yeah. Those Komatsu trucks at least leave the plant as a mostly complete frame via rail car or an oversized load tractor trailer*. Most of the stuff that is inside the frame will be installed, including the diesel engine, along with a few bits that don't stick out too far. Everything else is shipped separately to the final destination where it all gets assembled.

*I think those ones get put on a barge a short distance away

Here's a timelapse of the 930e getting assembled. At 0:29 you can see the frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Zvq-bboaQ


xzzy posted:

A Caterpillar engineer I was chatting with once explained that a lot of those rigs are custom designed specific to the job site, and yeah, they're shipped in parts. Still really loving big parts, but a little bit more manageable.

When an order is in discussions, they'll send the engineers to the work site to get requirements and survey the area to make sure they can deliver the proper machinery.

A lot of the equipment isn't all that much different from a car when it comes to the purchase. You pick the general type of thing you want and then choose the options. The bigger stuff is somewhat low volume and costs millions of dollars though so the dealers are usually pretty happy to make sure the customer is happy and gets what they need. I don't know that every single truck is unique but the design is usually being constantly refined so it might be close. Cat actually has a UAV group now to survey mine sites and such and help the mine owners increase efficiency.

Galler fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Jan 22, 2016

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Galler posted:

Here's a timelapse of the 930e getting assembled. At 0:29 you can see the frame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Zvq-bboaQ

Good Lord, look at the size of those axles :psyduck:

At first I saw them and thought "drat, is this thing powered by two gas turbines? That's awesome."
Then I realized the engine was already in the frame, and thought "wow, those must just be a pair of gigantic gearboxes or differentials."
Then they put one of them on each side of the frame

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Sagebrush posted:

Good Lord, look at the size of those axles :psyduck:

At first I saw them and thought "drat, is this thing powered by two gas turbines? That's awesome."
Then I realized the engine was already in the frame, and thought "wow, those must just be a pair of gigantic gearboxes or differentials."
Then they put one of them on each side of the frame

My guess from the size and shape is that those are electric drive motors and these things work like diesel/electric locomotives, but without rails.

Suburban Dad
Jan 10, 2007


Well what's attached to a leash that it made itself?
The punchline is the way that you've been fuckin' yourself





Holy poo poo, I didn't even see the school bus until the comments below. :vince: I knew those things were big but goddamn.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

This is what (used to) dig out the coal those trucks haul. A bit big to actually load the coal into them though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGZUAuHmiCE

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


The Locator posted:

My guess from the size and shape is that those are electric drive motors and these things work like diesel/electric locomotives, but without rails.

Yup. Komatsu's big haul trucks are diesel/electric. They also have some 'small'er diesel only (usually referred to as mechanical drive) trucks. Cat still has a lot of mechanical drive trucks, including their biggest truck IIRC, but has been making progress on electric drive trucks and have a number of electric drive versions.

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

New TaxTheRich video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF1VPIV9CsY

It's loving hot. Prepare yourself.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


A rolling piece of art:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVFvOQo9h5Y

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see





Gotta mine all that fire

El Jebus
Jun 18, 2008

This avatar is paid for by "Avatars for improving Lowtax's spine by any means that doesn't result in him becoming brain dead by putting his brain into a cyborg body and/or putting him in a exosuit due to fears of the suit being hacked and crushing him during a cyberpunk future timeline" Foundation

freelop posted:



Gotta mine all that fire

Or scenes from the next Mad Max?!

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





freelop posted:



Gotta mine all that fire

Is there an actual story behind this? Are they trying to put out a coal fire by simply.. removing it?

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

The Locator posted:

Is there an actual story behind this? Are they trying to put out a coal fire by simply.. removing it?

Yep. I think the idea is to get it away from the coal that isn't burning yet, then put it somewhere it can burn out safely.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
uh guys I'm pretty sure that's the quarry Guy Fieri gets his shorts from

MonkeyNutZ
Dec 26, 2008

"A cave isn't gonna cut it, we're going to have to use Beebo"

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Friar Zucchini
Aug 6, 2010

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

Yep. I think the idea is to get it away from the coal that isn't burning yet, then put it somewhere it can burn out safely.
When huge places have huge problems like that, solutions get really drat weird. "How do you put out a fire? You don't! You just carry it somewhere else!" Or how they dealt with the burning oil wells after Saddam had them lit up.

Falken
Jan 26, 2004

Do you feel like a hero yet?
http://i.imgur.com/IeBxJ2c.gifv

:stare:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Does the team get a weight concession from tech to compensate for the driver's giant balls?

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

I could do that. :colbert:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Daigo needs to up his game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzd6eKvC9mk

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

El Scotch posted:

I could do that. :colbert:

:toxx:

NoWake
Dec 28, 2008

College Slice

"hm a racing series that turns right instead of left... they're all cooking the corner into that guardrail, though"
:brain remembers drifting:
"oh holy hell this is awesome!"

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Choo choo motherfuckerrrrrrrrrrrr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWEW47Rczqs

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

NoWake posted:

"hm a racing series that turns right instead of left... they're all cooking the corner into that guardrail, though"
:brain remembers drifting:
"oh holy hell this is awesome!"

Big Block Modifieds!

Basically they only race these cars in New York State, and a few scattered places outside. Best kept secret in racing.

Highlights from a race last year

Tribute to the historic mile track we just lost in Syracuse

My local track is the oldest continuously operating dirt oval in the world, and when they wreck, they wreck hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICnSy8sHY9U

aftermath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM7E3t112i8

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jan 24, 2016

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

VikingSkull posted:

Big Block Modifieds!

Basically they only race these cars in New York State, and a few scattered places outside. Best kept secret in racing.

Highlights from a race last year

Tribute to the historic mile track we just lost in Syracuse

My local track is the oldest continuously operating dirt oval in the world, and when they wreck, they wreck hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICnSy8sHY9U

aftermath
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM7E3t112i8

It seems like NY has a huge oval/dirt track racing scene. Something in New York always comes up in the mention of cars like this.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
That's usually because I'm an autist and post modifieds whenever I get the excuse lol

Yeah, though, you'd figure oval racing is this southern thing but when racing started at the turn of the 20th century, some of the first places Americans went to race cars was horse tracks. That's a big reason why Americans are so oval heavy today, whereas Europe started racing on public streets. Every county up here just about had a horse track at its fairgrounds, like my local track was constructed in 1857 and has held races every year since 1919. Our unique love of horse racing and county fairs came together to create the basis of our auto racing community.

Another cool thing is if you look at track sizing, the northeast dirt tracks average a half mile or larger because those were traditional horse racing lengths. Down south, their racing started after WWII mainly, and tracks started in unused farmers fields. Since that's not conducive to large tracks, you see tracks of 1/4 to 3/8 of a mile. However, since these aren't existing tracks that animals used, this is where you start seeing banking applied to dirt tracks.

I guess it's fun to tool on oval racing because yawn they only turn left, but if you dive into the US and our fascination with that kind of racing, the stories you draw out of it are amazing.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
A quarter-mile oval is brutal. For those of you not into oval-track racing, imagine the running track around a high school football field. Some of them literally are the track around a football/baseball field -- NASCAR's top series had an event at such a track until 1971, and some of the minor-league series still run there:



I really should get out to the local dirt track more. Especially since my partner grew up working on his uncle's pit crew at Lebanon Valley. (New Yorkers will know where he's from when I say he got all the snow days you didn't in school). I've been once, these are the regular Saturday night modifieds late models (as I've been corrected by my partner):




Not sure I want to take my personal camera to the track, though -- the dust gets everywhere. (The above two photos were taken with clapped-out newspaper gear.)

I was there for the World of Outlaws race after the regular races; rather disappointingly, there weren't any wrecks. I was kinda hoping for them to do the thing Outlaws are famous for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV8ML8T3-Sc

Edit again:

NoWake posted:

"hm a racing series that turns right instead of left... they're all cooking the corner into that guardrail, though"
:brain remembers drifting:
"oh holy hell this is awesome!"
Heh. :v: being the aforementioned former dirt-track mechanic:

Me: [link to photo, copypaste of quoted post]
:v:: lol
:v:: wait what is he 'turns right instead of left'
:v:: how did he get that out of
Me: if you don't know dirt tracks it looks like the photo is taken from the outside of a right turn by the steering
:v:: oh
:v:: ok

Friar Zucchini posted:

Or how they dealt with the burning oil wells after Saddam had them lit up.

That was actually well-established technology.

Edit yet again becuase poo poo keeps getting more hilarious: Wikipedia's page on oil well fires, re: Red Adair's method, states "(This is a similar principle to blowing out a candle.)" True, but it's a bit of an understatement, innit?

Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jan 25, 2016

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Flat trike bikes are a lot of fun too, it's basically 100% powerslide. The one they use at the fair grounds in Indianapolis has infield access, and if you have a truck you can back up to the fence and sit in the bed all night watching bikes rumble by 15 feet away. Kind of a bad place to be if you don't have a truck though, hard to get an angle on the sliding parts.

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

xzzy posted:

Flat trike bikes are a lot of fun too, it's basically 100% powerslide. The one they use at the fair grounds in Indianapolis has infield access, and if you have a truck you can back up to the fence and sit in the bed all night watching bikes rumble by 15 feet away. Kind of a bad place to be if you don't have a truck though, hard to get an angle on the sliding parts.



My dad used to do flat track. Wrecked hard when he was young, but I got to watch him race a couple decades later. It was definitely nuts to watch.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

gently caress yeah, the Valley rules. I'm an OCFS guy, so Howie Commander promotes for us and the Valley. The Outlaws there are loving crazy.

For those that have never been and think New York racing would be metropolitan somehow, just lol

And if we're gonna post sprint crashes....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSiOskJGFA8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I021IstGSQk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ0LdZNURBg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1vh60pY-4 <---- this one is scary as gently caress

As for AMA flat trackers, they ran at OCFS when I was a kid. Had to red flag racing during the event because the track ran out of ambulances.

e- also since it's the picture thread, have one of the prettiest modifieds from back in the day

Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jan 25, 2016

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

My wife forwards "For the AI goons", from http://www.thisiscolossal.com/2016/01/paper-v8-engine/?src=footer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf3jnP6AbM0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnwndab2ztk

GramCracker
Oct 8, 2005

beauty by stroll

Ridge Racer IRL

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Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Well, this pushes several of my buttons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB72S_IrQvA

Throw some beefier tread in the back, and I'd drive that on the street every day.
I bet it would be pretty quick on the grip track with the proper setup, too.

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