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DorianGravy
Sep 12, 2007

hcreight posted:

That was the doctor's son. They were establishing (after the fact) that he was in the area to use his power on Mulder when they were investigating the apartment.

Oh, duh, that makes more sense.

A question about the first episode: who built the ARV that Mulder saw? That sort of thing has to cost a lot of money.

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enigmahfc
Oct 10, 2003

EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!
Yeah, that was the X-Files I wanted to see. The Akira siblings toward the end was pretty fun/badass and I hope we see them again.

Foppish Yet Dashing
Jun 29, 2004

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enigmahfc posted:

The Akira siblings toward the end was pretty fun/badass and I hope we see them again.

Yes.

Okay, this episode was such a big step in the right direction from the first, but still not perfect.

The "HEY WE ARE IN MODERN TIMES!" lines were dumb as hell (Obamacare, Snowden, etc). The dreams about William were too long and that time could have been spent on more things directly related to the case, specifically the aforementioned Akira siblings.

I was pretty surprised at how gruesome and grotesque this was. I know the series went for that a number of times during its run but it was surprising to see it so soon upon its return.

The casting was good. Mulder and Scully were much more themselves than in episode one. Much better direction and editing, too. Much more in tune with the series' good old days.

I really, really like that this episode pretty much just drops everything back into place and the loving X-Files are a thing again. I like that it doesn't even hinge on the previous episode at all. I think this is what most people want; more wild and crazy poo poo, mostly forgetting about poo poo that didn't work. This show is pulp genre fiction at its core. It was always best when it fully embraced that.

Very pleased by this episode but it's still not one I think I'll go far out of my way to rewatch at any point in the future.

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

DorianGravy posted:

Think there was any significance to that kid who ran out in front of Mulder and Scully's car? Was he around 15? He could be their son. Or was there some other reason for that shot that I'm missing? (I could be reading too much into nothing, of course.)

I think that was just product integration. They were showing the backup camera and the auto stop when there's something about to hit the car.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord
As much as I can understand the frustration with Christ Child William coming back into the picture, it'd be weird if they dropped that plotline entirely. On that note, I'm not convinced they dropped the entire series canon, either, tbh. It showed up so early in the season that it pretty much has to be a bait and switch. It's also not Season 5 2.0 where it's Mulder being emo-pants insufferable in pretty much every way imaginable, so there's that. The whole thing with the 'flashbacks to what could be and what never was' with William felt a little weird, and Mulder's seemed a little more on-point with the imagery calling back to Samantha's abduction, but I'm not really sure where Scully's got drawn from. If those two bits had been left out entirely, it'd probably be fine, but I'm guessing that'll unravel a little more with each new episode.

First episode was definitely rushed, but it felt good just to watch the show and know that, yes, this is a thing that is airing.

I think one of the major hangups in the first episode is that, since it did come off as super rushed, the opportunity for the cast and crew to settle back into something that had felt like second nature a decade and a half ago just wasn't there. I can imagine that it'd be pretty intimidating for everyone involved to jump back in, much less trying to figure out where all the characters are at emotionally when Carter's jamming a bunch of his usual rhetoric into every single line.

Second episode was p. loving great, though. Given the expectations riding on their shoulders, there's plenty to complain about, but I really enjoyed it. Even though I've watched two episodes so far, it's still throwing me for a loop that I'm watching it at all.

:feelsgood:

Vintersorg posted:

I loving love this show - they can do this until they are decrepit and just die/get abducted on tv.

also this

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



Old Boot posted:

The whole thing with the 'flashbacks to what could be and what never was' with William felt a little weird, and Mulder's seemed a little more on-point with the imagery calling back to Samantha's abduction, but I'm not really sure where Scully's got drawn from. If those two bits had been left out entirely, it'd probably be fine, but I'm guessing that'll unravel a little more with each new episode.

Scully's comes from her doing surgery/medical poo poo on kids with genetic deformities in the same way in revived season episode 1, along with her own abduction and medical fears, yadda yadda.

Old Boot
May 9, 2012



Buglord

piratepilates posted:

Scully's comes from her doing surgery/medical poo poo on kids with genetic deformities in the same way in revived season episode 1, along with her own abduction and medical fears, yadda yadda.

Yeah, thinking on it, that was a dumb thing to put out there, considering the entirety of season 8, and, well, what you said.

Teso Dos Bitches
Mar 25, 2006

xPanda posted:

If they gave up William as a baby, why do they have flashbacks of him older than that, them acting as parents? Don't think I missed anything.


Because they are jerks. It was a "what could have been" series of...of...of I don't know. Gut-punching mindfuckery? A setup for a later tie-in? A reason to drink heavily?

Alpenglow
Mar 12, 2007

DorianGravy posted:

A question about the first episode: who built the ARV that Mulder saw? That sort of thing has to cost a lot of money.

I think it's pretty clear that it was actually a 2016 Ford Explorer built by those wizards of modern rugged comfort at Ford but it actually costs a surprisingly affordable amount at your local 2016 Ford Explorer dealer.

I mean, wasn't that the most consistent theme of both episodes?

vseslav.botkin
Feb 18, 2007
Professor
This was a mediocre episode of the X-Files, but it was an episode of the X-Files. So I am content.

At one point I did briefly fantasize about what a six-episode season showrun by Vince Gilligan would look like though.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Yey X Files is good now!

Also, as someone who completely skipped every episode after some of Season 7, I didn't mind the William stuff. I thought it was quite sweet. But that might have been the direction. Which was very nice.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

CelticPredator posted:

Yey X Files is good now!

Also, as someone who completely skipped every episode after some of Season 7, I didn't mind the William stuff. I thought it was quite sweet. But that might have been the direction. Which was very nice.

There were a few good episodes in 8 and 9. Not many. The mythology went off the rails with the super soldiers and what not. But some of the MOTW were decent.

nopants
May 29, 2004
Who wrote next week's episode? I enjoyed tonight's episode, but episode three looks like peak X-Files.

Foppish Yet Dashing
Jun 29, 2004

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nopants posted:

Who wrote next week's episode? I enjoyed tonight's episode, but episode three looks like peak X-Files.

Darin Morgan, writer of Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, Jose Chung's "From Outer Space," and War of the Coprophages.

nopants
May 29, 2004

Satorr posted:

Darin Morgan, writer of Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, Jose Chung's "From Outer Space," and War of the Coprophages.

Yessssssssssss.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
Just finished watching the recording. I thought this one was pretty good. It felt properly paced.

Darin Morgan is gonna knock one out of the park I hope.

J33uk
Oct 24, 2005
This was far far better, felt like it had more of the tone of classic X-Files even if the some of the execution was a little off. Mulder and Scully's visions of what raising William would have been like came a little close to cheese, but the idea of their worst case scenarios being a repeat of Samantha and one's own body betraying them worked pretty nicely considering the poo poo both of them have been through.

Foppish Yet Dashing
Jun 29, 2004

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Ginette Reno posted:

Just finished watching the recording. I thought this one was pretty good. It felt properly paced.

Darin Morgan is gonna knock one out of the park I hope.

If his appearances on Kumail Nanjiani's podcast are any indication, he will totally knock it out of the park. He is still VERY aware of what works on The X-Files and what doesn't.

geeves
Sep 16, 2004

Satorr posted:

Darin Morgan, writer of Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, Jose Chung's "From Outer Space," and War of the Coprophages.

:shlick:

remusclaw
Dec 8, 2009

Satorr posted:

Darin Morgan, writer of Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose, Jose Chung's "From Outer Space," and War of the Coprophages.

Don't forget Humbug.

Batham
Jun 19, 2010

Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate. The bombs are guaranteed to always hit the ground.
Say what you want, this show still has the best god drat intro of any television series.

Even if it's 23 years old

Exploder
Nov 15, 2005

Just a humble motherfucker with a big ass dick
Okay, this is more like it. You can absolutely tell James Wong wrote and directed this episode. Everything felt right. I even sort of liked the William parts

I re-watched the first episode sans commercial breaks. It's still not very... good, but it isn't as bad as I had originally thought. The pacing problems were somewhat solved by not watching it live with commercials; it made a bit more sense. But good god, some of the dialogue is atrociously cringe-worthy. You can absolutely tell Chris Carter wrote and directed that episode.

AbstractNapper
Jun 5, 2011

I can help
First episode had condensed all the stuff that had grown to annoy me or even make me hate the X-files.

Condensed them all and enhanced them by a factor of ten - but you could still see the writers trying to keep the conspiracy-focus stuff dumbed down - Mulder and McHale's character go on far too long rants that come off as borderline nonsense with Zeitgest-levels of jumping to conclusions with thin (or conveniently interpreted) evidence tying together all sorts of events, but in the end the same thing gets stressed "international syndicate of men uses alien tech to take over world". Which is basically what happens (to me at least) when Mulder goes on a tangeant in most of the old X-files episodes; He typically begins with a "what if" and the rest is a series of quickly spoken sentences which you may or more likely may not make sense of (it weighs in that the logic is usually too far fetched), but there is a main point in there somewhere - which sometimes gets repeated in a more straight forward fashion by another character and most of the times you already got an idea of what "theory" the episode would follow. But this time... it was a longer tangeant and a much too stretched theory (especially given how asserted they were when talking about it) in a generally weak in atmosphere and tone episode. Or maybe it's more like I'd like to be reminded of the good stuff of the series before getting back again to the annoying ones.

Also the dialogue especially between Scully and Mulder felt shallow. Plus, there seemed to be something wrong with the pacing because as others have commented, McHale's characret kept teleporting all over the place and was in every other scene.

Second episode is so much better. The dialogue, the humor, the characters chemistry, they are all so much better here. It's this episode that makes me want to go back and re-watch the series - or at least my favorite moments of it.

AbstractNapper fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Jan 26, 2016

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Karen Silkwood'ed by a UFO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUGNbkJmM-w

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Last nights episode was much better. Really enjoyed it.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

AbstractNapper posted:

First episode had condensed all the stuff that had grown to annoy me or even make me hate the X-files.

Yeah, but they had to do that as a primer for all of the people who never watched the X-Files or never paid attention when they did. It suffered from "pilot syndrome" and had way too much exposition stuffed into it. Scully being a nay-sayer was as infuriating as ever, especially after her experiences, but I'm hoping that is also due to the "remember this?" format of the first episode. I didn't think it was the best thing ever, but I enjoyed it.

Going back a few pages, people were saying that the UFO crash wasn't Roswell - didn't it explicitly state "Roswell, 1947?"

piratepilates
Mar 28, 2004

So I will learn to live with it. Because I can live with it. I can live with it.



edit: nevermind

egon_beeblebrox
Mar 1, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.



That was a great episode. I hope they new new episodes every few years from now until they can't.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011
I was worried that the right wing alex jones nutjob would have been a total bad guy, glad it did not go down that road. However this is the third time they went into "actually it was the government not aliens", which would be fine if they went the extra 100 yards and made 9/11, benghazi, and everything else the internet left and rights wings have made conspriacies about 100% true and tied it into.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx
Just watched 'Founder's Mutation' and it ruled. It actually reminded me of 'Eve' a bit, and that's a very good thing.

Those flashback scenes :qq:

e: next week is Darin Morgan time, bitches :getin:

Slate Action fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Jan 26, 2016

Blakkout
Aug 24, 2006

No thought was put into this.
So it sounds like the spoiler-free consensus is that the second episode was much better. Awesome. I'll definitely check it out tonight.

meatpath
Feb 13, 2003

Ratings for Sunday night were upgraded, 16.19 million viewers

pyrotek
May 21, 2004



68k posted:

Ratings for Sunday night were upgraded, 16.19 million viewers

More importantly, it also got upgraded to 6.1 rating and 19 share for viewers 18-49. That will likely make it #2 for the week behind football in the only demographic advertisers really care about. Even if the second episode drops to a 3.0, it will still probably be a top 5 show.

I'm really curious to see how many viewers that first episode scared off.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
Speculatory article on International Business Times says that the ratings explosion could mean more X-Files. Let us hope. Or, if you will, I WANT TO BELIEVE

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx


Ratings predictably fell by about 50% from Sunday, but this is very strong for a Monday night.

pyrotek
May 21, 2004



Early ratings for last night's episode are 3.2 18-49 and 9.7 million total viewers. A big drop, but still very strong. I hope they can keep close to that audience.

Mortanis
Dec 28, 2005

It's your father's lightsaber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight.
College Slice
Much better second episode. Had a strong classic feel to it, and the effects game has been stepped up.

My only minor grumble is Duchovny doesn't quite feel like Mulder in this. He's too stoic. What happened to the cocksure, smarmy, porn-watching Fox? I don't think Mulder cracked a smile once in the episode. He's not even channeling Hank Moody, he just sort of existed.

It's all still pretty good, though. I'm a defender of the last two seasons, but this episode could have slipped into any early season rotation without feeling out of it.

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Slate Action posted:



Ratings predictably fell by about 50% from Sunday, but this is very strong for a Monday night.

What is scorpion and why are 10 million people watching it

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Austrian mook posted:

What is scorpion and why are 10 million people watching it

It's a old people procedural show that pretends to show NEW and DANGEROUS uses for technology. The pilot had a commercial jetliner flying 50 feet above the ground so that they could snake an ethernet cord out to the show's computerman hero's laptop who was racing behind the plane in a sports car because hackers. Another episode had bad guys hacking (???) an RV to drive off a cliff and the heroPCman had to do something computer to the RV by laying on a skateboard underneath the RV as it was driving. Robert Patrick stars.

My parents love it.

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