|
CombineThresher posted:Did this actually work? I still like Chikara and follow what I can, but it doesn't seem like white meat babyface hero Icarus really clicked with the fans all that much. Icarus' face turn worked in the lead-up to the shutdown and through the feud with the Flood, but it did start to lose steam into 2015. The face turn was sort of de facto because the fans were sick of Kingston's title reign, but it became official when Icarus was the first roster member to step up and try to keep the faith alive during the hiatus by staging the fan rallies and whatnot.
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2016 21:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 07:16 |
|
|
gfanikf posted:Details on the date of ~HOSS OFF~ please. i have absolutely no idea, i'm sorry. i just remember watching smackdown one week out of curiosity and going "hey this match is pretty good!". i think it was in may? idk. ryback does a backpack stunner.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2016 21:22
|
|
|
Who invented the Springboard Stunner, and has it replaced the Reverse Rana as the move every indy guy must do?
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2016 22:18
|
|
|
Smoking Crow posted:I'm not sure if it was before or after Cena/Cesaro, but Rollins/Neville loving owned Yeah, that was really underrated and I'm surprised at the amount of time they gave it.
|
|
#
?
Jan 28, 2016 22:50
|
|
|
what do people; either in the business or otherwise, think about the bullet club/young bucks/etc using too sweet/clique sign & suck it? Does anyone care or does it really bother someone like kevin nash or shawn michaels/hhh
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:36
|
|
|
Nash probably thinks it's hilarious.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:37
|
|
|
hall endorses it on the reg
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:41
|
|
|
What are your last favourite wrestling tropes? Mine is the one about Vince never asking you to do anything he wouldn't do himself. As if that's a guage for normal / healthy vendor. Also, unhip white guy does wacky dance / rap. Terrible.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:42
|
|
|
Smoking Crow posted:What are your opinions on wrestling halls of fame? Which one is the most legitimate in your opinion Whenever I talk to my politically-inclined friends, I always prefix Donald Trump with "WWE Hall of Famer". TNA's isn't that bad, even if it's only full of five people, of which three went to WWE and one's taking an extended leave from the ring because his neck is hosed in a hundred different pieces.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:42
|
|
|
Tweak posted:what do people; either in the business or otherwise, think about the bullet club/young bucks/etc using too sweet/clique sign & suck it? Does anyone care or does it really bother someone like kevin nash or shawn michaels/hhh WWE tried to trademark the Too Sweet thing, so yeah, it bothers the gently caress out of someone.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:43
|
|
|
ICHIBAHN posted:What are your last favourite wrestling tropes? Mine is the one about Vince never asking you to do anything he wouldn't do himself. As if that's a guage for normal / healthy vendor. Do you mean real stuff or booking tropes?
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:45
|
|
|
Daniel Bryan had a gauntlet match on raw that started with Swagger, then Cesaro, then Ryback... the Cesaro part of that match was amazing. I'm pretty sure I linked it a ton of pages ago in this thread. But that was in July 2013.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:54
|
|
|
ZoDiAC_ posted:Do you mean real stuff or booking tropes? Both
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 01:57
|
|
|
freeranger posted:Daniel Bryan had a gauntlet match on raw that started with Swagger, then Cesaro, then Ryback... the Cesaro part of that match was amazing. I'm pretty sure I linked it a ton of pages ago in this thread. But that was in July 2013. https://twitter.com/epitasis/status/373239535028547584
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 02:16
|
|
|
TinTower posted:Whenever I talk to my politically-inclined friends, I always prefix Donald Trump with "WWE Hall of Famer". I wanted to know more about stuff like the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame or the Cauliflower Alley Club
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 02:30
|
|
|
Memento posted:WWE tried to trademark the Too Sweet thing, so yeah, it bothers the gently caress out of someone.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 03:22
|
|
|
ICHIBAHN posted:What are your last favourite wrestling tropes? Mine is the one about Vince never asking you to do anything he wouldn't do himself. As if that's a guage for normal / healthy vendor. "As heel authority figure, I'm going to make sure you never, ever become champion if it's the last thing I do! ...So anyway, you have a title match."
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 03:27
|
|
|
Basic Chunnel posted:They didn't even really try. They filed and then did exactly nothing with it, and the petition expired quietly. Might as well have been a work It strikes me as exactly the type of petulant thing that Vince would do though. File it in a fit of pique, then either get legal advice saying "this will never work you're wasting time and money" or forget about it completely.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 03:35
|
|
|
Gavok posted:"As heel authority figure, I'm going to make sure you never, ever become champion if it's the last thing I do! ...So anyway, you have a title match." This was one of the things the Daniel Bryan push did really well-the Authority wanted no part of him as champion, and he only got put into the title picture in storyline because he hijacked the show until they gave him what he wanted. Now Roman could get the title shot at WrestleMania because
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 04:08
|
|
|
TL posted:This was one of the things the Daniel Bryan push did really well-the Authority wanted no part of him as champion, and he only got put into the title picture in storyline because he hijacked the show until they gave him what he wanted. Now Roman could get the title shot at WrestleMania because I feel the absolute best angle to do the heel GM thing is Heyman/Benoit because not only did it make sense, but it had an ending where the face WON and got to move on with his life while making Heyman look like a total idiot in the eyes of everyone, especially McMahon. Even Bryan couldn't break free of the bullshit before his injury.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 04:35
|
|
|
Remember when John Cena made Paul Heyman eat soap? Remember when Paul Heyman was smugging around backstage at ECW until OH MY GOD IT'S KURT ANGLE? Paul Heyman was a cool GM.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 04:37
|
|
|
ICHIBAHN posted:What are your last favourite wrestling tropes? Authority figures, especially Vince, cutting promos about "You don't tell me what you want, I tell you what you want" like it's a tongue-in-cheek heel move for TV, and not exactly what they're actually doing in real life.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 04:44
|
|
|
ICHIBAHN posted:What are your last favourite wrestling tropes? "This isn't going to be a wrestling match, this'll be a fight!" But I want a wrestling match. And this is simply semantics, but "No holds barred" being another word for street fight. It should mean there's no submission moves banned 
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:10
|
|
|
I hate ref bumps when they're so overused so it comes across as lazy booking to get cheap heat.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:13
|
|
|
Writer Cath posted:"This isn't going to be a wrestling match, this'll be a fight!" There is a difference! In no holds barred you wrestle in your gear. In a Street Fight you wrestle in jeans and your merch shirt.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:22
|
|
|
Oh, oh, I also am completely finished with heel authority figures in general.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:25
|
|
|
oldpainless posted:I hate ref bumps when they're so overused so it comes across as lazy booking to get cheap heat. Yep, very very rarely can a ref bump spot actually add tension and drama to a match, mostly it's cheap as hell and stupid. That being said, anything that lets Brock Lesnar deadlift a human with one arm should probably be further encouraged.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:29
|
|
|
I really, really hate matching a tiny guy with the biggest guy on the roster and doing the lazy rear end thing where the big guy no-sells everything and the little guy looks like a loving chump. There are lots of ways to do great big guy/little guy matches but WWE seems to know none of them.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:32
|
|
|
The babyface in peril/hot tag construct in WWE tag matches Their tag division has been worse but man every tag match is booked the same and has been forever.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 05:49
|
|
|
50/50 booking. I know you cant compare New Japan to US Wrestling, but their stars are stars and they rarely ever lose. Their mid level guys are stars who rarely lose except to the top guys. Their jobbers are stars who never win, but somehow, the best of them are still stars.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:05
|
|
|
sticklefifer posted:Authority figures, especially Vince, cutting promos about "You don't tell me what you want, I tell you what you want" like it's a tongue-in-cheek heel move for TV, and not exactly what they're actually doing in real life. Relatedly, shoot/inside joke-based angles or promos that fall flat all the time because they're not presented in a way that the crowd might actually care about. Wrestling is so much like community theatre sometimes that it scares me.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:06
|
|
|
ZoDiAC_ posted:The babyface in peril/hot tag construct in WWE tag matches On that note, ad hoc tag teams consisting of main eventers regularly going over the tag team champs cleanly. Hasn't happened in awhile but I remember that constantly happening a few years back and made the WWE tag division a joke.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:25
|
|
|
This is kind of a weird semi-related question, but are there any tropes that you recognize as dumb as hell, but love anyway? Mine is any time there's a "oh my god, this guy is so big, there is no way anyone can toss him out of the ring" moment at a Rumble or Battle Royale. I absolutely love this every time it happens.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:30
|
|
|
Alain Post posted:This is kind of a weird semi-related question, but are there any tropes that you recognize as dumb as hell, but love anyway? I'm still a huge fan of the "hot tag." When done right, and with the right guy in the right moment (see: Jason Jordan in NXT right now) it's electric.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:40
|
|
|
Alain Post posted:This is kind of a weird semi-related question, but are there any tropes that you recognize as dumb as hell, but love anyway? Any move, especially submission moves, is 10x more powerful when done on the announce table.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:42
|
|
|
Alain Post posted:This is kind of a weird semi-related question, but are there any tropes that you recognize as dumb as hell, but love anyway? When a heel backs away, acting all satisfied at his smartness until backing into a large face and slowly coming to realize he's hosed as he turns around.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 06:50
|
|
|
Alain Post posted:This is kind of a weird semi-related question, but are there any tropes that you recognize as dumb as hell, but love anyway? I love when people try to superplex Kevin Owens even though they should all know way better. And yes, "you can't eliminate the Big Show, winner of zero Royal Rumbles in almost 20 years, because he is too big" is the best.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 07:01
|
|
|
ICHIBAHN posted:What are your last favourite wrestling tropes?
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 07:16
|
|
|
Shine posted:And yes, "you can't eliminate the Big Show, winner of zero Royal Rumbles in almost 20 years, because he is too big" is the best. I'll have you know that Big Show won the Rumble in 2000 and THAT'S CRAZY!
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 07:23
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 14, 2024 07:16 |
|
|
Writer Cath posted:Oh, oh, I also am completely finished with heel authority figures in general. Except for Dario Cueto, who owns.
|
|
#
?
Jan 29, 2016 09:08
|
|