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Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

sometimes android studio fucks up with gnome3's alt-tab

# ? Jan 29, 2016 17:00

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# ? May 18, 2024 16:18

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

Anroid.

# ? Jan 29, 2016 17:05

b0red: Apr 3, 2013

sometimes my terminal takes 5 seconds to 'ls'

# ? Jan 29, 2016 17:07

Jerry Bindle: May 16, 2003

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

code:

(setq inhibit-startup-message t)
(menu-bar-mode -1)
(scroll-bar-mode -1)
(tool-bar-mode -1)
(setq tty-menu-open-use-tmm t)

Thx!!

# ? Jan 29, 2016 17:14

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Symbolic Butt posted:

sometimes android studio fucks up with gnome3's alt-tab

that's the jetbrains one right?

# ? Jan 29, 2016 17:50

dont skimp on the shrimp: Apr 23, 2008

you should try arch smythe, then you'll be a true cli master like me and mr dog

# ? Jan 29, 2016 18:08

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

i don't think smythe is suicidal or depressed to consider cli yet

# ? Jan 29, 2016 19:51

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

im a basic bitch, and dont know how to program computers. the last programming i did was easyUO to make a healbot that worked pretty good actually

# ? Jan 29, 2016 19:55

lifetime supply of Pocky: Aug 19, 2003

b0red posted:

sometimes my terminal takes 5 seconds to 'ls'

check for busted symlinks in your home dir

# ? Jan 29, 2016 20:34

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Smythe posted:

im a basic bitch, and dont know how to program computers. the last programming i did was easyUO to make a healbot that worked pretty good actually

this looks neat!

gonna make a corp por bot to stand just inside of despise now

# ? Jan 29, 2016 21:48

b0red: Apr 3, 2013

MayorOfFrance posted:

check for busted symlinks in your home dir

i think it's because i mount my server's ftp with curlftpfs in my home so it just works like a folder and i can cp/pv poo poo in and out of it. I guess I should just move it

# ? Jan 29, 2016 22:12

Smythe: Oct 12, 2003

celeron 300a posted:

this looks neat!

gonna make a corp por bot to stand just inside of despise now

the game api or whatever updated rly slow so i had my headbot pixelscan for where the explosion graphic appeared kuz it was faster than reading the %health variable or whatever. felt b drat clev0r. but nowadays theres custom clients that are much better at cheating

# ? Jan 29, 2016 22:23

computer toucher: Jan 8, 2012

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

bad configuration management is still much better than no configuration management.

ansible is tragically flawed but i'd much rather walk into a shop using ansible than a shop filled with shell scripts and computer touchers

agentless is a really dumb goal
aesthetically appealing but still dumb as gently caress

hey.

nobody asked you to come over :colbert:

# ? Jan 29, 2016 22:56

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

b0red posted:

i think it's because i mount my server's ftp with curlftpfs in my home so it just works like a folder and i can cp/pv poo poo in and out of it. I guess I should just move it

lol not using sshfs or nfs.

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:07

b0red: Apr 3, 2013

ratbert90 posted:

lol not using sshfs or nfs.

was unaware. will probably switch if they're better

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:24

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402

systemd mounts the EFI firmware read-write by default

which means if some shell script fucks up and rm -rf / gets run not only does it gently caress your os install but also your entire computer, like straight up bricks it

quote:

laloch commented 8 days ago
Mounting efivarfs read/write by default can lead to accidental deletion of the EFI variables. It was already reported on Arch Linux forums, that running 'rm -rf' over a directory structure with mounted efivarfs did actually "hard-brick" some MSI notebook.

quote:

poettering commented 4 days ago
Well, there are tools that actually want to write it. We also expose /dev/sda accessible for root, even though it can be used to hose your system.

The ability to hose a system is certainly reason enought to make sure it's well protected and only writable to root. But beyond that: root can do anything really.

quote:

poettering closed this 4 days ago

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:26

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

b0red posted:

was unaware. will probably switch if they're better

NFS is better if it's working properly. SSHFS for everything else really.

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:27

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

Cocoa Crispies posted:

https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402

systemd mounts the EFI firmware read-write by default

which means if some shell script fucks up and rm -rf / gets run not only does it gently caress your os install but also your entire computer, like straight up bricks it

most motherboards have some shitti wyndows software taht lets you overwrite the efi or the bios , so bricking it that way isn't exactly something hard, and you can edit and delete boot entries from powershell, or linux with efbootmgr which probably needs to access it.
Anyway if you brick a computer like this you really deserved it, also refer to the security gently caress up threads that has various videos on how to gently caress it up as a regular use without root by accessing the firmware directly

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:48

pseudorandom name: May 6, 2007

this is whoops the EFI variable space is more than half full now the system won't boot levels of incompetency

PC hardware is such trash

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:51

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

pseudorandom name posted:

PC hardware is such trash

# ? Jan 29, 2016 23:53

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Efi is such trash.

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:02

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Celexi posted:

most motherboards have some shitti wyndows software taht lets you overwrite the efi or the bios , so bricking it that way isn't exactly something hard, and you can edit and delete boot entries from powershell, or linux with efbootmgr which probably needs to access it.
Anyway if you brick a computer like this you really deserved it, also refer to the security gently caress up threads that has various videos on how to gently caress it up as a regular use without root by accessing the firmware directly

oh yeah but all of those aren't "some script hosed up and rm -rf / bricked my computer" levels of hosed up

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:07

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

pseudorandom name posted:

this is whoops the EFI variable space is more than half full now the system won't boot levels of incompetency

PC hardware is such trash

all these efi issues also exist in macs!

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:10

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

there's also no excuse for it

there are essentially no use cases for writing efi vars while the system is running. these are things that typically change once, when you install the OS.

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:10

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

Cocoa Crispies posted:

oh yeah but all of those aren't "some script hosed up and rm -rf / bricked my computer" levels of hosed up

well if you also get some malware script on windows it will brick it the same way

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:11

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Celexi posted:

well if you also get some malware script on windows it will brick it the same way

so it's ok that systemd does something dumb because windows hosed it up the same way?

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:11

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

so it's ok that systemd does something dumb because windows hosed it up the same way?

it isnt okay but the way its being painted as if its a exclusive systemd fuckup

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:12

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

Celexi posted:

it isnt okay but the way its being painted as if its a exclusive systemd fuckup

because it is a systemd fuckup

if you don't install systemd you won't have this problem

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:13

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

because it is a systemd fuckup

if you don't install systemd you won't have this problem

you will still have the same problem because the firmware has holes everywhere usually.

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:14

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Celexi posted:

well if you also get some malware script on windows it will brick it the same way

windows won't get malware that fucks it up because bitlocker type poo poo pays better and you have to try to gently caress up efi

having it mounted rw by default, even root-only, is way way way worse

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:19

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

sounds like a job for selinux

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:20

Lightbulb Out: Apr 28, 2006; slack jawed yokel

hosing your OS is a lot better than hosing the hardware for your system

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:23

Asymmetric POSTer: Aug 17, 2005

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

because it is a systemd fuckup

if you don't install systemd you won't have this problem

systemd owns

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:33

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

mishaq posted:

systemd owns

Agreed. Any piece of software that is so hated by nerds that the writer gets death threats is A-OK in my book.

Also lol if you have a script that could gently caress up and rm -rf /. You have to be a blithering loving idiot to allow that to happen.

# ? Jan 30, 2016 00:55

Maximum Leader: Dec 5, 2014

or just run steam lol

# ? Jan 30, 2016 02:11

Celexi: Nov 25, 2006; Slava Ukraini!

the bugged steam that rm rf was the home directory unless for some hosed up reason you were running it as root, but either way it was well deserved for using a distro without selinux

# ? Jan 30, 2016 02:19

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

if you have a canned selinux policy for steam i would greatly appreciate it

# ? Jan 30, 2016 02:30

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

systemd is extremely ftw but i'm not going to blindly assume that everything poettering does is great

i'm rather worried about poettering's obsession with btrfs for instance, because i feel like i'm going to get my arm twisted into using btrfs before long and it's a lovely filesystem for any sort of nontrivial application.

# ? Jan 30, 2016 05:52