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Sharks Dont Sleep posted:They are more than happy to name and shame and have done it previously. I don't imagine this will be different. I played stormcrow a shitload before it got nerfed and it was way amazing, still fantastic after the nerf but giving it buffs of any kind are going to propel it back to the top of poo poo mountain. Especially in conjunction with limiting the range of all the non clan laserboats. There are a lot of IS robots that are really only viable because they currently have a 20%+ range bonus on lasers. Idk about other goons but I do a lot of laser shooting out to 400-500 and reducing the range bonus directly removes the ability to shoot out that far. If the IS range nerf is capping at 10% generic and 10% large laser or whatever then that is pretty much fine, but if it's being reduced across the board down to a total of 10% then it's just a huge nerf and totally unwarranted. Especially clan wars will be hugely negatively affected by it. Washout fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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Fil5000 posted:The stormcrow is still amazing what are you even talking about I'm saying why are they removing all negative clan quirks, the top 4 clan robots are still the best robots in the game even with the existing nerfs why would you rebuff them back to previous levels while at the same time nerfing IS laser range. In some situations IS robots are currently better (BJ-1X compared to a mpl crow the BJ is better, for mid range fighting a laser vomit crow is better than a 1X tho) but they are going to directly nerf the BJ's structure too, and overall the clams are way better neways. Washout fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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Washout posted:What a bunch of poo poo. Lets buff the OP mechs again and then gently caress over IS mechs some more, oh wait. They're only capping the range quirks. If they add something else to compensate, this is a net good change because gently caress laser snipers.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:They're only capping the range quirks. If they add something else to compensate, this is a net good change because gently caress laser snipers. Won't this make a bunch of mechs complete garbage now?
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kingcom posted:Won't this make a bunch of mechs complete garbage now? Not particularly, as mentioned IS has some pretty awesome laser duration and heat gen quirks. It just means you can't sit back further and play sniper with medium lasers. It's not really a game breaker as far as I'm concerned. Re: Last nights CW We don't need to be try hards. We don't need perfect drop decks either. I've run CW before with a trash can and starter mechs and we still rolled them. We were all incredibly unfocused. People were gabbing about upcoming mechanic changes and various other topics as we were entering bases. Yell bosses seemed distracted and off their game (which is fine, we all have off days), and when yell bosses were actually on top of what was going on - no one listened (i.e. "Everyone Push in there now", queue people stopping and getting torn to pieces in a choke point). We had a few people who were completely new to CW too, so there's that too. Everything was just... Off. It didn't feel like a normal night of CW. Just shake it off,. And move forward with a more positive attitude.
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teepo posted:http://imgur.com/a/ebAAS Regardless of the scaling, the legs on a nova need to be shorter. The Saddest Robot posted:It's 14 flamer nova time. A.o.D. fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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The Saddest Robot posted:It's flamer time.
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Last night's cw was fun even though we got pooped on. Distracted nights are fine to me, especially since you can expect at least two players two be drunk.
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I left to get a beer while ready, I came back last night as everyone dropped in lights. I still had Ghost Dad selected. It was like I was running some welfare scam or something
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ZenVulgarity posted:Speaking of drunk and stupid, we should have an idiot night where we try something gimmicky. Goons do that every drat day. At this point, showing up with focused mech builds would be a gimmick night for us.
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Thronde posted:I'm not. My poo poo is all purple/green/gold snowfall because it's classy and reminds me of hometown. New Orleans? I hope it's New Orleans BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW Y'ALL DIDN'T START THAT poo poo IN THE STATES. Y'all ain't even got Joe Cains grave, ffs. Mardi Gras is a classist festival where the poors fight over trinkets thrown at them by the rich. I hates it and it triggers me. e: Go Auburn! DiHK fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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ZenVulgarity posted:Last night's cw was fun even though we got pooped on. Distracted nights are fine to me, especially since you can expect at least two players two be drunk. You're doing it wrong if 2 people are sober. Get on my level of liver disease.
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One thing to note -- the energy range quirk cap is just for generic energy range, not weapon-specific ones. So you could still see robots with range quirks for say, medium pulse lasers
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DiHK posted:New Orleans? I hope it's New Orleans BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW Y'ALL DIDN'T START THAT poo poo IN THE STATES. That explains so much.
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Any good Spider-5D builds? I'm using 3 medium pulses and an ECM right now. Also, any tips on grinding C-bills effectively? I'd like to give some other mechs a tryout and need money. high six fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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On Gimmicks: This is essentially the reason I am playing with goons. Get together, brainstorm the most hosed-up-hilarious combinations of mechs and trials, and have the best time ever. Oh we all died in a fire? We're all still laughing so hard we can barely speak coherently. Sometimes you win, and the awesomeness defies description. Not for every match, VERY GOOD for morale. On Tryhard: Everyone loves to win, nobody wants to be poo poo on for making a mistake, and if you have been playing this game longer, yes that usually makes you 'better'. As always, some people take poo poo way too seriously, and actually get Mad When Goons Lose at Robutts. This is bad, and makes people not want to play with you. The key to solving this one is to stop giving a gently caress. If you find yourself actually mad at a loss, take a break, laugh it off, or ffs try a morale match (see above, re: gimmicks). Have fun playing the game you are currently devoting so much time and energy to. Or keep yelling and making snide comments. Then wonder "why is nobody on mumble?" On Tonnage: Somebody make a friggin' chart of nGoons/%fun where %fun is proportional to tonnage difference. I'm pretty sure the optimum is somewhere in groups of 5-8.
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Bentai posted:Good thing modern WoL is already mediocre! Old Wol was also  If any goons get caught in this ban wave we are going to laugh loving long and hard at you.
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Herb Dington posted:Somebody make a friggin' chart of nGoons/%fun where %fun is proportional to tonnage difference. I'm pretty sure the optimum is somewhere in groups of 5-8. Groups of 10-12 playing fast light/medium wolfpacks rather than relying on anchor assaults are really fun too. But everyone's gotta buy into the wolfpack, if someone tries to bring a dad they're going to die alone and angry since they'll be the only thing that can't reposition quickly.
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TeeMerk posted:
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Beraiye posted:We need to go do some CW with people who know what they're doing. I'll be around all day, maybe we can go TS hopping. I'm playing the odd game with -MS- now, these guys seem pretty chill and also know what they are doing.
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Alchenar posted:I'm playing the odd game with -MS- now, these guys seem pretty chill and also know what they are doing. Yeah, I've got a lot of friends over there too. Old teammates from a previous guild. If they can stand it, the rest must be pretty okay.
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HexDog posted:I can't type out what he said word for word, but the gist was that they have been tracking a list of players who are cheating. Really soon here they are going to ban all of those cheater accounts in one big purge. I swear that he also said that they might make it known who was cheating since there are tier 1 players cheating and such. He described the cheating program they have been detecting and making logs of, it was definitely Helios although he never said the actual name. I'm pretty leery of this. CryEngine devs have said in the past that Helios is pretty undetectable without direct observation (even then fairly difficult) and I doubt PGI has done the work to actually check for that. I'm just hoping they don't go on a witchhunt and ban a bunch of legitimately good players just to show the rest of the userbase that they're tracking hackers, really, honestly, look at this list! Or use it as an excuse to ban players they just want to get rid of, which I am not convinced PGI is above doing. If they're going to do this they should provide some evidence for why they're banning certain players, rather than just publishing a list with a generic "these guys cheat btw" boilerplate.
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They published a list the last time they banned people.  modpud.
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mashed_penguin posted:They published a list the last time they banned people. RCP
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A Curvy Goonette posted:I'm pretty leery of this. CryEngine devs have said in the past that Helios is pretty undetectable without direct observation (even then fairly difficult) and I doubt PGI has done the work to actually check for that. I'm just hoping they don't go on a witchhunt and ban a bunch of legitimately good players just to show the rest of the userbase that they're tracking hackers, really, honestly, look at this list! Or use it as an excuse to ban players they just want to get rid of, which I am not convinced PGI is above doing. Feeling nervous?
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The most fun you can have in this game is crushing pubbies and laughing at them and their lovely builds. It can be hard to do this if people aren't focusing or 3 people are running the infamous 3 ppc spider. But yeah gimmicks are fun just don't do it every round because losing 20 games in a row because you're essentially down 4 players isn't fun for anyone.
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Great Beer posted:Feeling nervous? Everyone who is decent at this game should be. edit: didn't realize my post about the BLR-1S range actually posted, got a 502 gateway error when I tried.
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A Curvy Goonette posted:I'm pretty leery of this. CryEngine devs have said in the past that Helios is pretty undetectable without direct observation (even then fairly difficult) and I doubt PGI has done the work to actually check for that. I'm just hoping they don't go on a witchhunt and ban a bunch of legitimately good players just to show the rest of the userbase that they're tracking hackers, really, honestly, look at this list! Or use it as an excuse to ban players they just want to get rid of, which I am not convinced PGI is above doing. As Russ said last night, the cheat tool website itself states that we successfully detected them, back when people got banned for it last year. I don't know now much more you need than that. We're not going to publish more details on how they were detected because that gives away more information to your opponent which is a bad idea in a cat and mouse game.
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Number19 posted:As Russ said last night, the cheat tool website itself states that we successfully detected them, back when people got banned for it last year. I don't know now much more you need than that. We're not going to publish more details on how they were detected because that gives away more information to your opponent which is a bad idea in a cat and mouse game. That's fair and does ease my concerns, but I hope you understand some people's trepidation about the process.
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Great Beer posted:Feeling nervous?
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A Curvy Goonette posted:Everyone who is decent at this game should be. So your a player who likes ERLLs and is nervous about the upcoming ban wave you say? Time to throw you in the pond and see if you float.
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Bait and Swatch posted:So your a player who likes ERLLs and is nervous about the upcoming ban wave you say? Time to throw you in the pond and see if you float. I don't use ERLLs, they're too hot and too easily countered, but I know a lot of people do now, including a ton of people in this thread. Troll elsewhere.
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