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there's a new 538 podcast about Iowa that was just posted so you can listen to something before tonight's shitnado starts http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/elections-podcast-your-guide-to-the-iowa-caucuses/
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 Pragmatica -- My wife and I are trying to do the calls, but it says the phone bank is currently down.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:04
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Republicans posted:I finally realized who Ted Cruz reminded me of. but people don't like cruz
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Feb 1, 2016 22:08
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Clinton campaign has knocked on 37k doors so far today as of 12:34 PM CST.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:11
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Mitt Romney posted:Clinton campaign has knocked on 37k doors so far today as of 12:34 PM CST. She's going to gently caress Bernie up his rear end in a top hat.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:14
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Palin on CNN is hilarious as always
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Feb 1, 2016 22:14
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Are the Iowa caucuses the dumbest thing about the presidential elections? The electoral college is pretty bad, but I don't think it ever affects the outcome.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:16
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PostNouveau posted:Are the Iowa caucuses the dumbest thing about the presidential elections? The electoral college is pretty bad, but I don't think it ever affects the outcome. Bush v Gore??? Also, why are they dumb?
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Feb 1, 2016 22:17
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PostNouveau posted:Are the Iowa caucuses the dumbest thing about the presidential elections? The electoral college is pretty bad, but I don't think it ever affects the outcome. Let me tell you a story about a hanging chad
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Feb 1, 2016 22:17
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a cop posted:She's going to gently caress Bernie up his rear end in a top hat. no no no sanders has the enthusiasm even though every poll shows more enthusiasm for hillary
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Feb 1, 2016 22:19
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a cop posted:Bush v Gore??? Also, why are they dumb? Non-secret voting is 18th century as gently caress.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:19
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PostNouveau posted:Are the Iowa caucuses the dumbest thing about the presidential elections? The electoral college is pretty bad, but I don't think it ever affects the outcome. ah youth
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Feb 1, 2016 22:21
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a cop posted:Also, why are they dumb? Let's have an election, but instead of just voting, we'll take two hours and argue with each other the whole time.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:21
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Dahbadu posted:
It's working now. We're both in.
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Abner Cadaver II posted:Non-secret voting is 18th century as gently caress. 19th and very early 20th too
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PostNouveau posted:Let's have an election, but instead of just voting, we'll take two hours and argue with each other the whole time. I think that owns.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:21
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a cop posted:Bush v Gore??? Also, why are they dumb? Because voting by having people stand in corners sounds like a 4th grader came up with it.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:22
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Warmachine posted:Because voting by having people stand in corners sounds like a 4th grader came up with it. I think it's visceral, and real. People should be willing to stand up for their beliefs for all to see.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:23
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It's amazing how poorly the Cruz mailer did with caucus-goers. Hi, I'm running for the "government needs to stay out of my life" party, HERE'S A BUNCH OF loving INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBOURS I'M SENDING TO YOU.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:24
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I'm remembering the parts of The Social Contract where Rousseau talks about people shouting their opinion from the rooftops of Athens during a gathering of all citizens as the ultimate democratic political system.
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pathetic little tramp posted:It's amazing how poorly the Cruz mailer did with caucus-goers. At the very least, get a super PAC to do it so the candidate's name isn't on the mailer.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:24
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PostNouveau posted:Are the Iowa caucuses the dumbest thing about the presidential elections? The electoral college is pretty bad, but I don't think it ever affects the outcome. Pretty much
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Warmachine posted:Because voting by having people stand in corners sounds like a 4th grader came up with it. Well imagine musical chairs with Chris christie.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:26
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PostNouveau posted:Are the Iowa caucuses the dumbest thing about the presidential elections? The electoral college is pretty bad, but I don't think it ever affects the outcome. The Iowa Caucus rarely affects the outcome, other than knocking out the very weak candidates that can't even manage a share of Iowa's tiny amount of delegates. Here's a fun fact, in 1992, Bill Clinton lost Iowa to Tom Harkin, New Hampshire to Paul Tsongas, Maine to Jerry Brown, and South Dakota to Bob Kerrey. (Those were the first 4 primaries/caucuses, in order, that year)
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Feb 1, 2016 22:29
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Dahbadu posted:
A rare miracle for the people of Iowa
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Feb 1, 2016 22:30
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fishmech posted:The Iowa Caucus rarely affects the outcome, other than knocking out the very weak candidates that can't even manage a share of Iowa's tiny amount of delegates. I dunno, the caucuses seemed to do a lot for President Santorum.
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PostNouveau posted:I dunno, the caucuses seemed to do a lot for President Kill your parents.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:32
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Please let this be as insane as last time 
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Feb 1, 2016 22:32
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Jerusalem posted:Please let this be as insane as last time No way it won't be, between the 'surprise' big Clinton push (spoiler it's not a surprise) and the general Sanders Fever in near all his supporters poo poo's gonna get buck wild
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Feb 1, 2016 22:34
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HaroldofTheRock posted:Hey fellow Toreador! I'll be at Franklin elementary for Sanders tonight. Holy poo poo. Me too! See you there!
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Feb 1, 2016 22:35
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Jerusalem posted:Please let this be as insane as last time Last time Romney got punked by Santorum. This time Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are battling for first place. It's already at least as insane.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:36
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Gyges posted:Last time Romney got punked by Santorum. This time Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are battling for first place. It's already at least as insane. Yeah but they changed the rules so Rand Paul can't steal all the delegates after it's over. Tough to be as insane as that.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:38
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The thing is, people like Huckabee and Santorum are suppoed to win Iowa. It's not a predictor of the eventual nominee, but it is a good indicator of who will be the candidate of the GOP base, specifically the religious right. Cruz's whole thing is "televangelist who would never compromise because you don't back down when you have have God on your side." He's made for Iowa. So if he loses to Trump, that's basically the moment where it becomes clear that Trump has been successful in utterly crushing him. And if Trump can stop Cruz in Iowa, he can stop anyone anywhere.
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Feb 1, 2016 22:40
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Gyges posted:It's already at least as insane. Until Wolf Blitzer turns to the camera and assures the audience that CNN did NOT force an old woman out of bed to give them caucus results, we're still below peak beautiful insanity.
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Jerusalem posted:Until Wolf Blitzer turns to the camera and assures the audience that CNN did NOT force an old woman out of bed to give them caucus results, we're still below peak beautiful insanity. What
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:The thing is, people like Huckabee and Santorum are suppoed to win Iowa. It's not a predictor of the eventual nominee, but it is a good indicator of who will be the candidate of the GOP base, specifically the religious right. Cruz's whole thing is "televangelist who would never compromise because you don't back down when you have have God on your side." He's made for Iowa. Unstumpable: How Donald Trump Became Emperor of America, by Rick Perlstein.
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They rang up the Clinton County Republican Chairwoman at like 1am in the morning to get results for that county because they were so desperate to call a winner between Romney and Santorum. I don't think it is included in this video, but not long afterwards (presumably in response to calls/twitter etc from viewers) Wolf suddenly speaks up to say,"And I just want to... I just want to assure our viewers that CNN did NOT force Edith Pfeffer to get out of bed to give us the Clinton County results." Iowa was a beautiful disaster in 2012.
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Jerusalem posted:Until Wolf Blitzer turns to the camera and assures the audience that CNN did NOT force an old woman out of bed to give them caucus results, we're still below peak beautiful insanity. Wolf Blitzer saying something pantsshittingly stupid is a given, so I don't know why you're holding out on that count.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “I’d love to say that second place is great but it’s not a win and I know that’s a terrible expectation to set but our country needs to win again.” ~ Corey Lewandowski, campaign manager for Trump. There's nobody who campaigns harder than the candidate who comes in 2nd.
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Jerusalem posted:They rang up the Clinton County Republican Chairwoman at like 1am in the morning to get results for that county because they were so desperate to call a winner between Romney and Santorum. I don't think it is included in this video, but not long afterwards (presumably in response to calls/twitter etc from viewers) Wolf suddenly speaks up to say,"And I just want to... I just want to assure our viewers that CNN did NOT force Edith Pfeffer to get out of bed to give us the Clinton County results." 
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