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Cathode Raymond
Dec 30, 2015

My antenna is telling me that you're probably wrong about this.
Soiled Meat

ComposerGuy posted:

I mean, sure, it's just that the human voice doesn't really work in such a way as to change as drastically as the change here. While age *does* change your voice somewhat (called presbyphonia), it only really introduces minor issues like slight pitch alterations (although men's voices actually alter *up* with age, not down) and some gruffness. Even years of heavy chain-smoking and drinking, while it will gravel-up the sound, won't fundamentally alter the "sound" of your voice at a base level outside of you suddenly needing a hole cut in your throat and/or severe vocal damage...but the Bradford in X2 speaks with normal clarity and no signs of that kind of extreme trauma.

It's a dumb nitpicky thing (my not-so-hidden choral studies nerd peeking out) that I'm sure I'll get used to. But I'll KNOW it isn't Bradford dammit! Goddamn alien bastards can't pull the wool over MY eyes/ears!

No but really I'm pre-loading now and gently caress I need this game now. Is it rolling out at midnight Thursday? And if so, is that midnight in each time zone?

I didn't like Bradford from the first game. He said really obvious things all the time.


I prefer to think that this older, different-sounding dude is just some drunken mountain man impersonating Bradford, and everyone kind of knows it but doesn't really care.


It rolls out midnight tomorrow EST if you live in the Americas.

Cathode Raymond fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Feb 4, 2016

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busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie
re: using SMGs in your first playthrough if you run the long war dev mods it'll probably make steam achievements disabled, how could you miss the sweet achieves??!??

Do we know if they'll be running a statistic breakdown compared to other players at the victory screen? i look forward to finding out the average amount of ingame days played in a victory being 99,000 or whatever bugged numbers it spat out last time.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

monster on a stick posted:

Then you should love XCOM 2.

XCOM 2 at least will give us difficulty options, LW didn't get a less grognard-hard version until later.

E: unless that's what you meant, I haven't had coffee yet today and I'm even worse than usual at getting peoples' meanings before I've been caffeinated.

Kiranamos
Sep 27, 2007

STATUS: SCOTT IS AN IDIOT

busb posted:

re: using SMGs in your first playthrough if you run the long war dev mods it'll probably make steam achievements disabled, how could you miss the sweet achieves??!??

drat, now I can't even use the least offensive Muton Centurion mod.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Malachite_Dragon posted:

XCOM 2 at least will give us difficulty options, LW didn't get a less grognard-hard version until later.

E: unless that's what you meant, I haven't had coffee yet today and I'm even worse than usual at getting peoples' meanings before I've been caffeinated.

You interpreted correctly the second time, 2 looks pretty grognard. They definitely took a lot of notes from the LW book.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
why would mods disable your steam achievements, no games that I know of do this.

also all of the LW mods sans the officer one look safe to remove. No reason not to try them out, I know I will be.

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

DontMindMe posted:

Finally caved in and decided to buy this, but I apparently can't use the voucher at greenmangaming?

GMG sends you two steam keys, I think one for the preorder and one for the preorder bonus pack. Gotta use the preorder first I think or the other one won't go through. I got my keys a few hours ago, in time to preload.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
Mods disabling cheevos is something you pulled from your rear end. Why on earth would they favor the absolute sanctity of achievements (lol) over a potential thriving mod community which can provide extra sales for years, at no cost to themselves? Some people will use their custom babyfur easy mode mod to get the legendary achievements, big whoop.

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

TheSpiritFox posted:

GMG sends you two steam keys, I think one for the preorder and one for the preorder bonus pack. Gotta use the preorder first I think or the other one won't go through. I got my keys a few hours ago, in time to preload.

No, I mean the discount voucher doesn't work (27PERC-OFFXCO-M2GAME)

ProZocK
Apr 22, 2013
Here, to make up for dicing you, multiple times, have some nice, calm text.

The Iron Rose posted:

why would mods disable your steam achievements, no games that I know of do this.

also all of the LW mods sans the officer one look safe to remove. No reason not to try them out, I know I will be.

Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings disable achievements for any run where a mod messes with the game's checksum.

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie

ProZocK posted:

Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings disable achievements for any run where a mod messes with the game's checksum.

I was taking it from my experience with EU4 but if that's not the case for other games then i stand corrected.

i actually don't even play for achievements in any game anyway :shrug:

Psykmoe
Oct 28, 2008
Didn't one of the Civ games disable achievements if you did something like mod a clock onto theHUD? I remember hearing about that, but who knows.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

DontMindMe posted:

No, I mean the discount voucher doesn't work (27PERC-OFFXCO-M2GAME)

You have to get it in the VIP section of GMG

DontMindMe
Dec 3, 2010

What could possibly go wrong?

DreamShipWrecked posted:

You have to get it in the VIP section of GMG

Oh! Weird. Didn't know about that. Thanks!

cerious
Aug 18, 2010

:dukedog:
Also buying off GMG, from US, from the VIP section. Didn't have to apply a code/voucher. $46.19 the best price, right? Don't want to waste any extra :10bux: on my Bad Aim Simulator.

e; answered below, thanks

cerious fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Feb 4, 2016

Kiranamos
Sep 27, 2007

STATUS: SCOTT IS AN IDIOT

DontMindMe posted:

No, I mean the discount voucher doesn't work (27PERC-OFFXCO-M2GAME)

27% is expired, there is a 23% one for the deluxe or you can get the regular on VIP like someone else mentioned.

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Not really sold on the tier 3 weapons and armor as they're too smooth, too round and looks a lot like Archangel armor in EU. Looks like the patched together jury-rigged theme doesn't hold out in the late game :(

ComposerGuy
Jul 28, 2007

Conspicuous Absinthe

Cathode Raymond posted:

I prefer to think that this older, different-sounding dude is just some drunken mountain man impersonating Bradford, and everyone kind of knows it but doesn't really care.

This is acceptable. Done.

quote:

It rolls out midnight tomorrow EST if you live in the Americas.

Oh sweet, so, 11 PM central then? I'll have some time to take a look before I pass out.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Just got my XCOM 2 Steam Key from Green Man Gaming but it's not working yet. Has anyone else had this problem?

I got my Fallout 4 key the same way a few days prior to release and it was able to activate just fine before release even if I couldn't play it yet.

Pharmaskittle
Dec 17, 2007

arf arf put the money in the fuckin bag

ComposerGuy posted:

This is acceptable. Done.


Oh sweet, so, 11 PM central then? I'll have some time to take a look before I pass out.

If you care enough to use a VPN through Australia I think it'll be like 2pm central.

Davethulhu
Aug 12, 2003

Morbid Hound

Met posted:

Just got my XCOM 2 Steam Key from Green Man Gaming but it's not working yet. Has anyone else had this problem?

I got my Fallout 4 key the same way a few days prior to release and it was able to activate just fine before release even if I couldn't play it yet.

I had a few problems, but i figured it out, then I came to the thread for posts like this.

It's 2 codes, each containing 3 groups of 5 characters. Use the bottom code first.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Pre-load done. Took Friday off, hyped as hell to play this game. :getin:

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Serf posted:

Pre-load done. Took Friday off, hyped as hell to play this game. :getin:

I work Friday and will be playing board games and drinking afterwards...but thanks to the magic of an irregular work schedule I have Saturday through Tuesday off, which means I have four uninterrupted days to become all that is XCOM.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Junpei posted:

New weapons, the Thunder tier, which balances less damage for a chain lightning effect.
Edit: This isn't a thing revealed, I want to mod it in.

The chain lightning effect "jumps to" (makes an aim roll against) a random target in range, with no check for friendly fire. So it can totally jump from Advent soldier to Bufftoid to Advent soldier to civilian to your critically wounded sniper to VIP and finally back to your Specialist who fired the weapon in the first place.

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Eimi posted:

First thing I'm modding in is Bolters as a fourth tier weapon. :colbert:

Or third. Basically plasma can burn in hell.

ya

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

ive honestly always hated the look plasma weapons had in xcom/x-com.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Eimi posted:

First thing I'm modding in is Bolters as a fourth tier weapon. :colbert:

Or third. Basically plasma can burn in hell.

I would totally do this if it weren't for the fact that art is hard. Implementing the research and unlocks shouldn't be super difficult, the problem is the art assets and animations.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

monster on a stick posted:

You interpreted correctly the second time, 2 looks pretty grognard. They definitely took a lot of notes from the LW book.

They took a bunch of notes from LW. They took some notes from watching people obsessively play the game and how they broke EU/EW (same as how they added stuff like Meld in EW after seeing the Beaglerush style of ultra-conservative play). I think they even took some notes from the xcom boardgame. The one-use projects that give you a single reward or piece of equipment feel like burning a research card for an ability in that.


I don't think Xcom 2 is nearly as grognardy as Long War; most of the complexity feels about the same level as the EW expansion rather than LW. "Grodnard" is more about complexity and quantity of detail rather than pure difficulty. Stuff like the class system is still way more streamlined than LW's additions.

As someone who always wanted a "long war lite" I'm pretty happy that they nabbed some of the best ideas -- especially the starter alien units getting upgrades over time -- without going too far from the original formula.

paradigmblue
Oct 12, 2003
How difficult would it be do mod in assets directly from Long War? I'd love to see some Long-War style hybrid classes as well as the greater weapon variety that LW provided. I know that they've already added the submachine gun, but it would be great to see carbines and marksman rifles as well.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

Davethulhu posted:

I had a few problems, but i figured it out, then I came to the thread for posts like this.

It's 2 codes, each containing 3 groups of 5 characters. Use the bottom code first.

That worked. I appreciate the help!

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

The Iron Rose posted:

I would totally do this if it weren't for the fact that art is hard. Implementing the research and unlocks shouldn't be super difficult, the problem is the art assets and animations.

Creating models is somewhat difficult to do well. Thankfully, you are talking about wh40k which has many weird, obsessive fans who will create enormous numbers of mods for this game on the workshop. Take some of those, tweak the numbers so they aren't stupid and you are good to go. Seriously, bolter mods will be as easy to find for xcom 2 as waifu mods are for skyrim.

Note: waifu mods will also be easy to find for xcom 2.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I hope someone makes a mod to replace the mag weapons with beam weapons. Beams have always had my favorite visuals and I'm gonna miss the red glare of death.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I think the mag weapons look pretty neat, personally! Beams were the best in EW, though, true, except for Suppression. Not enough beams when a Support used it, and I never took it on Heavies.

MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC
Big thanks to Iron Rose for that easier long war mod. It has made all the difference between it being a challenging game vs a self flagellating torture simulator.

That said, I am still scared shitless about this first alien base assault. Its mid august and I have just gotten Gauss tech though I will be about 3 weeks out before I can finish enough gear to send a decently equipped squad. Should I just send my A team now with lasers or wait the extra month for to try and partially equip them with some gauss tech?

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit
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emTme3 fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Mar 31, 2022

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Ciaphas posted:

I think the mag weapons look pretty neat, personally! Beams were the best in EW, though, true, except for Suppression. Not enough beams when a Support used it, and I never took it on Heavies.

The mag weapon are neat, I just have a soft spot for beams and they are the replacement for them. The mag machine gun makes a super satisfying pew pew pew noise though.

pnumoman
Sep 26, 2008

I never get the last word, and it makes me very sad.
Is the digital deluxe version worth it? I'm probably gonna get it anyway, since here in Korea both versions seem pretty cheap compared to the usd prices, but not if the future dlc is completely worthless.

From what I can tell, it's 2 additional missions, a new class, some new weapons, and some cosmetic stuff. Anything I'm missing?

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard
I know there are other Goons who preordered at cdkeys.com.
They usually are delivering early, but not this this time for me.
Did you get anything so far? My preorder status is still "This product is a Pre-Order, it will be available here on or slightly before the release date of 5th February 2016" :ohdear: :f5:

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
LW Gauss was grouse.

Mr.PayDay posted:

Did you get anything so far? My preorder status is still "This product is a Pre-Order, it will be available here on or slightly before the release date of 5th February 2016" :ohdear: :f5:

I'm still waiting on mine from G2A too. The first time I've ever seen a game unlock in Australia first, and I don't get to lord it over anyone.

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Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

paradigmblue posted:

How difficult would it be do mod in assets directly from Long War? I'd love to see some Long-War style hybrid classes as well as the greater weapon variety that LW provided. I know that they've already added the submachine gun, but it would be great to see carbines and marksman rifles as well.

It'd probably be reasonable enough considering it's the same engine, though you would have to figure out how the weapon mods expect the gun to be set up.

Also Amazon still hasn't sent me my key, I want to download this game already.

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