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Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
any goon crew that regularly plays on PS4?

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King Gonorrhea
Feb 11, 2008

Son of Ass Pharaoh
What's the best shield killing primary weapon?

I've been using a Deagle and Lebensauger for a long time, but with the weapon rebalance and Deagles becoming completely OP, I only pull out the sniper for Shields and I figure there might be a better weapon for the job if that's all I'm using it for.

I made a Joceline with AP rounds and played around with it today and had a blast. Even more damage, much faster reload speed, not terrible accuracy with some skill adjustments, but I found it lacking in clip size and fire rate in the instance that I'm hit with a tazer: I fire off my two shots so quickly there's no chance I can turn to face the tazer in time. With the Lebensauger's slow fire rate and 10 clip I could find the tazer and clip him with a lucky shot and escape nearly every time.

As a secondary consideration, even the Lebensauger failed to kill shields in one hit on deathwish (through the shield of course, I don't know how that affects damage dealt if at all), how much damage do I need to one hit a shield on DW? maybe I'll revert to using a sniper, just the R93 or the Nagant? surely the Thanatos is overkill for the job...

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Dr Cheeto posted:

The Holy Text is inaccessible right now, but the short version is you're mostly right. Dodge is more reliable with more incoming fire, but eventually you're going to roll snake eyes and go down like a bitch.

This must be pretty hard on you. I'm sorry in your time of darkness that your guiding light is unavailable.

King Gonorrhea posted:

What's the best shield killing primary weapon?

GL40 if you're Sykic!

(GL40 even if you're not) but also look into the HE light crossbow or as you have discovered, the slug O/U is actually fun, which goes against all sorts of rules let me tell you. :v:

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx

King Gonorrhea posted:

What's the best shield killing primary weapon?

mosconi with HE

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!

King Gonorrhea posted:

What's the best shield killing primary weapon?

http://i.imgur.com/SLRAyc1.webm

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012



That's a secondary. :colbert:

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!
That's my primary weapon :colbert:

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Meldonox posted:

I can't suspend disbelief until they do a movie of them ECM rushing diamond store over and over again to grind out the 80s and 90s like I do with my gang.

Man I hope this is just a made-up example because that is like the worst possible way imaginable to grind out the 80s and 90s.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Meldonox posted:

I can't suspend disbelief until they do a movie of them ECM rushing diamond store over and over again to grind out the 80s and 90s like I do with my gang.

Yeah, this is a terrible way to get XP nowadays. Please hit up the mumble with us and let us give you the pro low drag hi speed optistratz.

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

Meldonox posted:

I can't suspend disbelief until they do a movie of them ECM rushing diamond store over and over again to grind out the 80s and 90s like I do with my gang.

Why would you ever do this by choice.

Even running something like Firestarter on Very Hard will probably get you to 100 faster.

Edit: Though there's no reason not to run Firestarter on Overkill if you can get the goon hookup going.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

King Gonorrhea posted:

What's the best shield killing primary weapon?

Flamethrower, no doubt. It also stuns bulldozers, destroys turrets, removes Captain Winters, and makes short work of any number of cops in an enclosed space. Treat your teammates to a heathy serving of cop flambé!

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?
Oh man, I have totally been grinding diamond store. I've been playing with my work buddies pretty much exclusively and have been having a fun time just shooting the poo poo and doing an awful job running stealth. We had a great failed run where I was being sneaky and hosed us over because I missed a guard with a shuriken and shattered some alarmed glass not a full minute after I said something smug about being the team ninja. These are the heists they don't show us in the cinematics.

I'm well aware I know nothing and I'm wasting time and running poo poo loadouts, but I've been having too much fun to sweat it. Plus when I got on the Mumble last weekend there wasn't anybody around so I just ran with it. I'll get on again and look for folks this evening. :3:

Yay video games. I'm glad I finally got into this one.

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Sub-optimal fun. Sub-optimal fun!

Meldonox
Jan 13, 2006

Hey, are you listening to a word I'm saying?

Korgan posted:

Sub-optimal fun. Sub-optimal fun!

I'm missing out if I'm not meeting the federal standard of 400 millifuns per unit bad.

I do need to explore my alternatives for loud missions since I've been all shotguns since I have lovely aim.

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
I quite like stealth but even a quick loud heist like Aftershock will blow any stealth heist out of the water in terms of money & XP

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012

Barry Shitpeas posted:

I quite like stealth but even a quick loud heist like Aftershock will blow any stealth heist out of the water in terms of money & XP

Yeah, they really got generous with XP and cash past Hotline Miami DLC. Before that the most cash was from Framing Frame Stealth, but now and with the whole rebalance, there is no reason to stealth anything anymore except if you want to not shoot cops or go for cheevos. Shame realy, cause I really like stealth in this game.

Tempest_56
Mar 14, 2009

King Gonorrhea posted:

What's the best shield killing primary weapon?

I've been using a Deagle and Lebensauger for a long time, but with the weapon rebalance and Deagles becoming completely OP, I only pull out the sniper for Shields and I figure there might be a better weapon for the job if that's all I'm using it for.

The Flamethrower is laughably good at killing Shields (and regular cops) and works as a great compliment to the Deagle. GL40/Piglet also work excellently. Loading a crossbow or higher-damage shotgun with HE rounds is good too, but has more limited utility.

quote:

I made a Joceline with AP rounds and played around with it today and had a blast. Even more damage, much faster reload speed, not terrible accuracy with some skill adjustments, but I found it lacking in clip size and fire rate in the instance that I'm hit with a tazer: I fire off my two shots so quickly there's no chance I can turn to face the tazer in time. With the Lebensauger's slow fire rate and 10 clip I could find the tazer and clip him with a lucky shot and escape nearly every time.

As a shotgun monkey, I suggest loading the Joceline with flechettes. You'll get the spread, tan armor penetration and excellent range (I can counter-snipe on Rats fairly reliably). I normally pair it with an HE-loaded Judge or the RPG for Shield/Dozer killing. And yeah, Tazers are your weakness with that loadout. It's a trade-off for being able to one-hit nearly any cop or special.

quote:

As a secondary consideration, even the Lebensauger failed to kill shields in one hit on deathwish (through the shield of course, I don't know how that affects damage dealt if at all), how much damage do I need to one hit a shield on DW? maybe I'll revert to using a sniper, just the R93 or the Nagant? surely the Thanatos is overkill for the job...

The Lebensauger/Repeater/Rattlesnake is something stupid like 1 point too low on damage to one-hit a Shield on DW. Any of the higher damage snipers will work. The Thanatos is overkill, but the BEST kind of overkill.

Laputanmachine
Oct 31, 2010

by Smythe

Tempest_56 posted:

As a shotgun monkey, I suggest loading the Joceline with flechettes. You'll get the spread, tan armor penetration and excellent range (I can counter-snipe on Rats fairly reliably). I normally pair it with an HE-loaded Judge or the RPG for Shield/Dozer killing. And yeah, Tazers are your weakness with that loadout. It's a trade-off for being able to one-hit nearly any cop or special.

Cut-down Mosconi with flechettes is the Doom 2 Super Shotgun. Also surprisingly good for countersniping.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Meldonox posted:

I do need to explore my alternatives for loud missions since I've been all shotguns since I have lovely aim.

Well, more than that, grinding the same heist over and over reduces the amount of XP it gives you. :shobon: If you like stealth stuff, give Shadow Raid a try! It's a much, much better payout, and it's still totally chill, and you get a funky little beat going while you sneak around.

But also, Loud stuff is super fun and if your group is in the 80s and 90s nobody has to break enough of a sweat that they can't just keep idly chatting while cutting down scores of cops. Payday 2 in general is just really chill, outside of Deathwish and specific cheevo runs.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Overkill posted:

PAYDAY 2: Hotfix 94.3 - Crash fixed, COP news and more!
posted by OVERKILL_Almir @ 02:57PM on February 04, 2016
Heisters,

After a lot of hard work, we believe we've managed to fix the crash that has been bothering you all for the past few weeks. Thanks again for your incredible patience while we've been dealing with this nasty crash.

We also have some news regarding the Completely OVERKILL Pack masks that we've been discussing. Check out the video below to find out more.

PC Heister Status Update:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeR4tQ_xHYs



Two new Horror-themed masks
Celebrating our Canadian friends at Behaviour launching their website for their game Dead by Daylight, you can get two horror-themed masks for free in PAYDAY 2 by joining the Dead by Daylight community on Steam. Link is here: http://steamcommunity.com/games/381210

We're excited about Dead by Daylight because it's a mature co-op horror game. Want to learn more about the game? Check out https://www.deadbydaylight.com or the video below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9FMwsbsQek

Here's the changelog for today's update.

Hotfix 94.3 changelog
Update size: 46 MB
  • Fixed an issue on day 1 of the Goat Simulator heist where players could fall through the world
  • Found a more permanent solution for our LOD crash which will hopefully resolve the issue
    You can now mark enemies again
  • Reverted the health adjustment to special enemies. Special enemies now have their original total health
  • Added two new masks to the game: "Unborn" and "Devourer". Players can obtain the two masks by joining the Dead By Daylight's official Steam Community Group
Thanks!

Almir
OVERKILL - a Starbreeze Studio.

averox fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Feb 4, 2016

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
I am gonna pon pon pon the poo poo out of those.

Cyrelio
Mar 28, 2015

Oh good my game might not crash all the time now.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
No Mega Kawaii mask? This is horseshit!

YET ANOTHER FAG
Mar 6, 2003

by R. Guyovich

Dr Cheeto posted:

No Mega Kawaii mask? This is horseshit!

This except War Face & the chance to buy the COP again.

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

YET ANOTHER FAG posted:

This except War Face & the chance to buy the COP again.

please don't suggest the idea of being able to buy the COP pack again. nobody deserves that

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Overkill, if you're watching, it's OK- I'll buy additional copies to make up for their intransigence.

I can't watch the video at, which masks are we getting?

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp

Discendo Vox posted:

Overkill, if you're watching, it's OK- I'll buy additional copies to make up for their intransigence.

I can't watch the video at, which masks are we getting?

Mega versions of Cthullu, Death Wish, Plague Doctor, and two unrevealed and completely original masks.

There's also the two horror game tie-in masks available to anyone who can join a Steam community.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Aww, I really wanted mega versions of all the character masks. It also looks like they're new models for the masks, which wasn't really what I wanted. Ah, well.

#ponponponitall

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Feb 4, 2016

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.
give me mega dennis goddammit overkill

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
Give me mega gagball and mega greek tragedy mega Groucho

spit on my clit fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Feb 4, 2016

Barry Shitpeas
Dec 17, 2003

there is no need
to be upset

Winner POTM July 2013
Can I get an invite to the Steam group? http://steamcommunity.com/id/donjoggett

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
dead by daylight kinda looks like another stab at the Evolve formula

mite b kool

Cyrelio
Mar 28, 2015

May I get an invite to the Steam group as well? http://steamcommunity.com/id/cyrelio

Just started playing a couple of months ago with a good buddy of mine. We've worked our way up to stealthing Death Wish heists regularly now and we can handle doing Overkill with most of the other heists as well.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Cyrelio posted:

May I get an invite to the Steam group as well? http://steamcommunity.com/id/cyrelio

Just started playing a couple of months ago with a good buddy of mine. We've worked our way up to stealthing Death Wish heists regularly now and we can handle doing Overkill with most of the other heists as well.

Done.

Krilion
Nov 24, 2015

That unborn one is neato.

Fellis
Feb 14, 2012

Kid, don't threaten me. There are worse things than death, and uh, I can do all of them.

Dr Cheeto posted:

No Mega Kawaii mask? This is horseshit!

YET ANOTHER FAG posted:

This except War Face & the chance to buy the COP again.

These two masks right here ugh

Also i was hoping they'd put the COP out there again, to see whining from people who don't play the game and people who have COP already and shouldnt give a gently caress

E: actually the worst thing about the community is their bad taste in masks, the ones they picked are good but don't beat literal anime and the arguable best mask in the game

Fellis fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Feb 5, 2016

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
A major reason kawaii probably isn't happening is that 4chan and facepunch have both turned it into "kawaii-chan", a character with all the traits you would imagine they would apply to such a mask.

Dr Cheeto
Mar 2, 2013
Wretched Harp
Be warned: if goonmod is enabled it seems the game will crash when you attempt to buy masks. Actual gameplay seems stable, though.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE

Discendo Vox posted:

A major reason kawaii probably isn't happening is that 4chan and facepunch have both turned it into "kawaii-chan", a character with all the traits you would imagine they would apply to such a mask.

So? Overkill is shameless enough to make literal meme masks.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

isndl posted:

So? Overkill is shameless enough to make literal meme masks.

Sorry, I was being too oblique there. There is porn said character, who is not of age. They're probably (hopefully) trying to not encourage or enable it.

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