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Gorilla Salad posted:So did the FBI just walk onto the reserve and put the phone in one of their cars while they all slept? I guess there's probably a no man's land where there are vehicles parked (or where a vehicle could be parked). Either that or they pointed a car at the refuge, tossed a phone in, and put a brick on the accelerator. I'm a bit confused as to how people are talking to Fry if comms have been cut. Are they still able to receive calls?
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:is this poo poo still going on? Sorta kinda but just barely.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:is this poo poo still going on? Four people left at the refuge, who are basically there because they don't know what else to do - aside from David Fry, who was notorious for his own reasons, the holdouts are unremarkable and are like extras who refuse to believe that filming has finished. The feds are in no particular hurry to get them out, arguably because it makes things more difficult for Bundy et al, but also because, well, eventually they're going to run out of food and it'd be nice if they just surrendered. Even the pro militia protest in Burns didn't really seem to give two shits about them - which I optimistically interpret as an indication that even the liberty movement can feel embarrassment - focusing instead on submitting bogus paperwork and making laughable demands relating to the
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The Feds even called them to warm them of the dangers of carbon monoxide poisoning from sleeping in a vehicle with the engine running. We have the worst despotic tyrannical government ever 
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The FBI also called to make sure they have enough Flintstones vitamins.
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Lycus posted:The FBI also called to make sure they have enough Flintstones vitamins. Diabetes pamphlets would probably be a good idea too, thinking of their long-term health. And some numbers of crisis lines in case they want someone to talk to.
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Thump! posted:The Feds even called them to warm them of the dangers of carbon monoxide poisoning from sleeping in a vehicle with the engine running. By this point the FBI has proven to the only group that really seems to care about these losers as people (mostly because they want to arrest them alive and no way are these four staying that way in their own) which has to be the most pathetic embarrassment for the opening of the Second Revolutionary War possible. Undoubtedly the FBI's real goal in wasting this long with them. Which handily explains why their "brothers" have completely abandoned them to focus on pushing the convenient corpse as a martyr now.
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Are the protests still ongoing, or have the honking pickups returned to their exurban mcmansions I love that the militia idiots have mostly managed only to make the locals hate them and the rest of the country think they're insane. They really were not prepared to be told to gently caress off when they finally left their bubble
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Besides the four still refusing to leave the refuge there was the final arrival of the militia posse (couple dozen, maybe 100 idiots or something) but they are spending their time annoying the town residents who almost universally want them gone, Cliven finally showed up to support the militia civilian 'court' issuing an order for the militia to round up the FBI and sheriffs for violating the Magna Carta or something. Who are apparently taking their order from the French and the IMF and assasinated tarpman. Said frenchies are treating the four like the retards they are by helpfully reminding them not to kill themselves sleeping in cars with the engine running and provided them with a phone and charger which probably can only call the FBI. I think they finally cut the power and blocked their phones from making outgoing calls. The militia aren't accomplishing much beyond getting ridiculed and helping get more charges added to Cliven and his kids. Also Ammon is begging the four to please leave most likely because if they pull something idiotic it'll just pile more charges on him. Of course it was worded to imply the FBI are violating the version of laws and the constitution that only exist in the fever dreams of SovCit types. Some city councilman or something got called on his stolen valor bullshit and resigned. They've essentially entered the we need something to call a win stage before they run out of food and/or freeze to death. Fry will probably do a tarpman death by cop, not sure if the other three have done much more than babble about dying for our freedoms and will probably just poo poo themselves the second the FBI does anything. Positive I've got some details wrong but who cares.
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Cantorsdust posted:My dad and his buddies started using "Canadian" a couple years back. Confused the hell out of me for a bit. My brother-in-law did it, and was so bad at it his kids picked it up. I think is usually just a racist compulsion to have the need to specify that that some person is black. I can't think of a lot of stories I could tell about people where it was critical that the audience know the race of the person involved.
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Doctor Butts posted:My brother-in-law did it, and was so bad at it his kids picked it up. Mentioning Martin Luther king was black would probably be helpful to helpful note if you were recounting the 'I have a dream speech'. ...somehow I doubt that's the kind of stories they would be telling though. Also mentioning he was "Canadian" wink, wink, would just be really drat confusing.
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Lycus posted:The FBI also called to make sure they have enough Flintstones vitamins. The FBI hostage negotiators would like to thank their cats for their invaluable expertise during these negotiations.
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Perfectly Safe posted:I guess there's probably a no man's land where there are vehicles parked (or where a vehicle could be parked). John Sepulvado from Oregon Public Broadcasting was the first to report the FBI provided phone thing. A few days ago, all outgoing calls and internet was cut at the refuge but David Fry's phone could still receive incoming calls. Sepulvado was regularly communicating with the militants by calling in every 4 hours just to see if they were still alive/freaking out/whatever. Fry told him that the FBI warned them that sleeping in running cars was dangerous. He also told Sepulvado that the FBI had left a new phone and charger in a car near the entrance. At 2:15 yesterday, Sepulvado got a phone call from a blocked phone number with someone who refused to identify himself on the other end of the line, who told him that as of 12:50pm, all contact within the refuge was cut. He has since called Fry's phone several times and has not gotten through. So presumably, the FBI gave them a phone and charger and a notice that they had a short bit of time to say whatever they needed to say to anyone who managed to reach them on Fry's old phone before cutting it. It is as of yet still unknown who the caller from the blocked number was, although Sepulvado said on twitter that they seemed to "know things militia would not" so he was guessing it was "either brother or FBI" (David Fry has a brother Daniel, I'm guessing that's the brother he was talking about?) Fionnoula fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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The Dark Project posted:Seems he had a good well paid job as an electrician, voted for Scott Walker in Wisconsin and suddenly found his union job all gone.  Oh that's just precious. 
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The extra precious part is that THE DEMOCRATS did it, dontchaknow. The democrats ruined everything for him.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:https://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/695063113851273216 this is dumb, cant the telephone company just restrict all calls to his normal phone except fbi? they have phones for little kids that can only call 911 or mom or dad, for fucks sake
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Gorilla Salad posted:I'm guessing the FBI phone has an always on mic and camera and very accurate GPS. And this as a ringtone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTlYyxvwOJE
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Toasticle posted:Positive I've got some details wrong but who cares. Only that Cliven hasn't (to my knowledge) been anywhere - there's speculation that he actually doesn't leave his property, so it'd be quite a thing if he made a physical appearance. Fionnoula posted:...So presumably, the FBI gave them a phone and charger and a notice that they had a short bit of time to say whatever they needed to say to anyone who managed to reach them on Fry's old phone before cutting it. It is as of yet still unknown who the caller from the blocked number was, although Sepulvado said on twitter that they seemed to "know things militia would not" so he was guessing it was "either brother or FBI" (David Fry has a brother Daniel, I'm guessing that's the brother he was talking about?) You're probably right. The arrangement of the tweets appeared to suggest that he wouldn't have had the time to do a radio interview (i.e. the FBI phone appearing and the cutting of communications sound like they either happened simultaneously or that the latter happened first). In reality, they probably gave him bags of time. Fionnoula posted:The extra precious part is that THE DEMOCRATS did it, dontchaknow. The democrats ruined everything for him.  I tell you, they have some balls telling other people to "wake up".
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dr_rat posted:Mentioning Martin Luther king was black would probably be helpful to helpful note if you were recounting the 'I have a dream speech'. Freepers like to use "amish" as their racist dogwhistle.
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That's both the funniest and the most depressing thing about all this right wing nonsense. The right promises sunshine, prosperity, and unicorns but burns down everything they touch, blames the Democrats, immigrants, and/or Muslims, then the cycle repeats. Wasn't it Kansas that is basically just plain burning down in the face of GOP policy? Granted there's a ton of nationwide examples of poo poo going from bad to "dear god help us everything is dead" when Republicans end up in charge.
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The Dark Project posted:He owned one but it went bust after there was a forest fire in Idaho. It was one of the things he was complaining about on the "Defendyourbase" live streams to someone who was calling in for Right Wing Radio. Seems he had a good well paid job as an electrician, voted for Scott Walker in Wisconsin and suddenly found his union job all gone. Had split from his wife earlier, had gone off the deep end was a violent abusive drunk before then, but his loss of job sent him off the deep end. Met Sandy (the woman he was with at the refuge) and moved to Idaho to set up shop there. That failed so with no real income they threw their lot in with these guys as kind of a last ditch hope I think. It's not really worked out for them I must say. Thus should be the fate of all union-enriched people who vote for right wing assholes. It's a shame he and millions of others are incapable of putting 2 and 2 together.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:That's both the funniest and the most depressing thing about all this right wing nonsense. The right promises sunshine, prosperity, and unicorns but burns down everything they touch, blames the Democrats, immigrants, and/or Muslims, then the cycle repeats. Wasn't it Kansas that is basically just plain burning down in the face of GOP policy? Granted there's a ton of nationwide examples of poo poo going from bad to "dear god help us everything is dead" when Republicans end up in charge.
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Halloween Jack posted:I think that a factor in 2012 and 2016 is that the cracks are starting to show between the value system of the Republican ruling class (which is just narcissism and hokum to justify narcissism) and the values of the average Republican voter. Unfortunately, while working-class Republicans seem to have begun to identify zillionaire donors as a problem, the bigotry against minority groups as the underlying cause of every problem doesn't seem to have gone anywhere. Sadly true. All the consequences of republican dogma are starting to catch up with us, but they remain as good as ever at deflecting blame, so their voters just see it as proof that whatever they're already biased against as the problem and dive deeper into their delusions. This will continue until the various measures taken to make this voting block disproportionately powerful are undone (2020 at the earliest) or the damage is so great that it'll be next to impossible to repair.
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old dog child posted:First Lavoy and now the FBI is making it snow? When will the tyranny end?? When that one big blizzard hit the east coast, before the arrests, I told the Pete Santilli chat that it was clearly a government ruse to distract us from the second american revolution. A mod agreed with me.
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These are a huge dick move. Specially when they leave these as "tips", because Jesus will pay up that absent money servers need to live. ToxicSlurpee posted:Needless to say the people that routinely gave them as tips consistently got terrible service, consistently complained about it, then consistently came back every Sunday. It's really self-defeating; they complain that all servers everywhere are just lazy and don't know how to do their jobs so the service sucks everywhere. All I can think is "hey did you ever wonder if the problem was you?" but of course they haven't. Like I used to joke with my boss; You see them go to church, learn about love and brotherhood, then head out after and gently caress each other over to be the first in line at whatever place they go to eat SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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As a Millennial I posted:At this point I think the occupiers are just holding out because this has been so much more fun and interesting than their normal lives. I'm certainly enjoying the show from here, I can only imagine how important and exciting it feels from there.
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SocketWrench posted:These are a huge dick move. Specially when they leave these as "tips", because Jesus will pay up that absent money servers need to live. Most evangelical Christianity in this country is a network of prosperity gospel cults, so they do actually believe that the reason people have service jobs is that they haven't come to Jesus hard enough.
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The Dark Project posted:voted for Scott Walker in Wisconsin and suddenly found his union job all gone Sorry life sucks, but you kinda made that bed yourself, fucker. Like all the dipshits in michigan that voted hands down for Snyder and then bitched when his "Emergency Management" teams took over their city
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Al! posted:Most evangelical Christianity in this country is a network of prosperity gospel cults, so they do actually believe that the reason people have service jobs is that they haven't come to Jesus hard enough. I would strongly disagree with "most", but there are one hell of a lot of them.
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"Dissappointed Jesus is Lord" is the truest thing a Christian has ever said about modern America.
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