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theultimo posted:Applepay yeah disable that too then in fact permanently disable the secure enclave in the case of any hardware alteration and destroy the data so the fingerprint cannot be recovered, who cares but why brick the entire loving phone lol
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I'm not sure lately, its gotten to be DRM in everything Apple though, cables, chargers, etc.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 22:57 |
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qirex posted:yeah I guess if you only listen to the mainstream crap streaming services actually have on your 2" bluetooth speaker they're probably pretty needs suiting oh we're going down that route? lmao gently caress off - google play has some incredibly deep cuts plus i can upload all my music so i can stream it anywhere so people who stream music only do so to their shower speaker? and not their cars? or stereo for a party? etc. etc. lol get the gently caress outta here with that rhetoric edit: like anyone who says, "ugh mainstream crap" most likely listens to poo poo that is immensely popula r and in the days of the internet, who ISNT super popular aside from things like french bands only put out cassettes
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 22:58 |
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theultimo posted:Applepay It's about controlling the counterfeit parts market and being able to void warranty on units with unauthorized repairs, not the incredibly unlikely conspiracy theory level security concerns.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 22:58 |
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yea that's probably better than if someone got a new sensor installed that uploaded all their prints to Russian gangsters
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 22:58 |
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mishaq posted:yeah disable that too then probably already too late by the time you get to the point where the OS can send a delete command and have the fingerprint storage carry that out.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:01 |
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there is alwayus android if you would like for your fingerprint data to be compromised for the rest of your life though.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:01 |
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theultimo posted:http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/05/error-53-home-button-iphone-brick/ obviously they should drop the Secure Element and store the fingerprints as a BMP so that idiots can use any Shenzhen leftover fingerprint sensor they want Secure Element and Shenzhen autocapitalize lol
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:02 |
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from what i'm hearing it sounds like a moral imperative to use android at this point, if you at all value your software freedom
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:02 |
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carry on then posted:from what i'm hearing it sounds like a moral imperative to use android at this point, if you at all value your software freedom apple taking the security of biometric data seriously is cool + good but i dunno if this is purely that
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:04 |
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i'll take it over unsecured BMPs being passed around the OS
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:05 |
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Stux posted:there is alwayus android if you would like for your fingerprint data to be compromised for the rest of your life though. What about the part where you leave that data on literally everything you touch? mishaq posted:apple taking the security of biometric data seriously is cool + good It's not.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:05 |
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emoji posted:What about the part where you leave that data on literally everything you touch? there s a difference between leaving my fingerprints on things i touch and a device taking a high resolution scan of it and then that getting compromised by malicious parties
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:10 |
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also the part where on that device my fingerprint can then give access to my banking, paypal, whatever
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:13 |
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Yeah sure disable it yeah if there is an issue BUT loving BRICKING A PHONE
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:14 |
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theultimo posted:Yeah sure disable it yeah if there is an issue all they did was disable it, its just that to effectively disable that part of the phone to the point where it can no longer be compromised the whole phone has to be disabled.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:17 |
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Stux posted:also the part where on that device my fingerprint can then give access to my banking, paypal, whatever The fingerprint and method in which they represent it is only an iOS construct to unlock some stored tokens you previously generated on that specific device. It has no connection to your actual accounts. AKA it's useless in some third party's hands.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:20 |
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I replaced an integral part of my security architecture with a hacked third party clone, why won't apple support it?
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:28 |
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lol @ engaging stux
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:29 |
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emoji posted:The fingerprint and method in which they represent it is only an iOS construct to unlock some stored tokens you previously generated on that specific device. It has no connection to your actual accounts. AKA it's useless in some third party's hands. cool but theyll still have my fingerprint so we're still at "things i never want happening thanks" levels of security issues
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:38 |
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The Management posted:I replaced an integral part of my security architecture with a hacked third party clone, why won't apple support it? I performed a routine part swap on a device I own, and the device destroyed itself because it was designed to eliminate the market for third-party repair shops.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:39 |
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good. third parties can get hosed.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:42 |
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carry on then posted:I performed a routine part swap on a device I own, and the device destroyed itself because it was designed to eliminate the market for third-party repair shops. P much The conspiracy theories of those parts taking my print s is hilarious
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:43 |
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THC posted:good. third parties can get hosed.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:45 |
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also i dont think u can put "fingerprint scanner" in routine part swap there are plenty of routine part swaps u can do on an iphone yourself or with a third party but i have no idea why u would
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:46 |
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Cracked screen repair Apple vs 3rd party is like a 4x difference
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:49 |
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It is my right, as the owner of a device, to take actions to enhance the functionality of that device without the authorization of the manufacturer. These actions are anti-consumer and anti-poor, pure and simple.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:50 |
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an IC which is specifically and intentionally programmed to only work with the phone it was made for, and this was publicly stated by the manufacturer. oh you know, just a routine part swap
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:50 |
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carry on then posted:It is my right, as the owner of a device, to take actions to enhance the functionality of that device without the authorization of the manufacturer
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:52 |
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theultimo posted:Cracked screen repair Apple vs 3rd party is like a 4x difference actually cheaper here than going to the carrier but also i dont trust a third party with that had to take my mums 6 in for a screen replacement and went to the apple store like a normal person. came back after having lunch and they said they were unable to do the repair as the machine had broken or something idk so instead they just handed over a brand new boxed 6. thanks apple. thapple.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:52 |
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Stux posted:works for me with no issues OP sounds like you're loving idiot dumb and bad and should maybe use something more suiting your needs for example a garbage bag or tire fire. this is needlessly rude. its ok to say you like apple without trying to justify their bad software decisions
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:56 |
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The Management posted:I replaced an integral part of my security architecture with a hacked third party clone, why won't apple support it? You're smart enough to know it's actually the same parts from the same factories and it's purely serial number based and about eliminating 3rd party repair shops.
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# ? Feb 5, 2016 23:59 |
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emoji posted:You're smart enough to know it's actually the same parts from the same factories and it's purely serial number based and about eliminating 3rd party repair shops. yep, it's definitely apple choosing to take some flak in the media for that sweet 1st party home button repair money. if they were doing this to kill third parties, they would have just enabled this on new devices and that market would have dried up without any bad press.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:08 |
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somewhere in Cupertino Tim is pounding on a desk, screaming about why the home button repair profits are down this quarter
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:09 |
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The Office of Personnel Management already lost enough personal info for a security clearance, like 3 years worth of references and past addresses and stuff, on top of my full finger and palm prints, so I'm that one insanely edge case where I don't care about biometric security because everything besides my retina and dickprint has been stolen. FTW.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:16 |
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Please do not enroll your penis in Touch ID.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:17 |
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The Management posted:somewhere in Cupertino Tim is pounding on a desk, screaming about why the home button repair profits are down this quarter It's about preventing people from swapping third party modified phones for new ones at the Apple Store, which is a real problem. But that can be checked at the store. It doesn't need to brick the existing phone if the user has no intention of returning to the Apple Store.
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:22 |
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Stux posted:actually cheaper here than going to the carrier but also i dont trust a third party with that so what should someone in a third world country without an apple store do, like new zealand
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:38 |
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people who buy iphones can pay to replace their bricked phones immediately no problem so it is obviously not a problem
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# ? Feb 6, 2016 00:39 |
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Larry Parrish posted:The Office of Personnel Management already lost enough personal info for a security clearance, like 3 years worth of references and past addresses and stuff, on top of my full finger and palm prints, so I'm that one insanely edge case where I don't care about biometric security because everything besides my retina and dickprint has been stolen. FTW. same
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