FrankieGoes posted:

For those that haven't been following along on the CIG forums, Logical Chimp is a total retard with severe cognitive problems that is incapable of doing anything other than licking CIGs balls.

Scruffpuff posted:

The reason I say it is because much of the fun here was reading between the lines, waiting for that juicy bit of gossip, etc. to further validate what we already knew about this "game". Now, CIG isn't even hiding it. The scam is right out in the open. Let's say this coming week Chris says something completely open like "PTU is cancelled, it's only gonna be SQ42." It might make fun waves on the CIG forums, but is anyone here gonna say "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT HE JUST SAID!!" If they start selling brand new, never-before seen ships, are we gonna fall over backwards with surprise? If they take out the hangar, or remove the Constellation ship completely, rework vending machines to take real cash in exchange for virtual non-persistent soda, who here will bat an eye? To quote a great man: now their failure is complete. I agree that there will always be something, but I can't imagine what would be as compelling as what's passed now that we're in full-frontal scam mode.

The next great thing will be the collapse itself, and the many, many glorious forms that could take. That or fun legal action from somewhere.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/ag9G9

Fourth Pass Version 1.

How many times has this loving thing been un-approved?

Eonwe posted:

Leaving the casino - up $1300

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

This ship has been in development hell for years now.

Dusty Lens posted:

Time to recolor the original concept art yellow, purple and aqua marine and sell them for $25, $35 and $55 markups!

Mirificus posted:

Players making gameplay in Alpha PU

grimcreaper posted:

Rofl. Appearently i have to wait a bit. Hitman AND witch hunter are out of stock at all redboxes near me appearently. That or their tracking system is screwed.

Mendrian posted:

I don't like to hold people to the standards of their best work, it stifles creativity imho. Just because I'm not knocked out of my chair doesn't mean CiG can't still surprise me.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

If you can, play Sandi and whoever the woman is in Hitman side by side. Its uncanny how they resemble eachother

Mirificus posted:

Players making gameplay in Alpha PU

G0RF posted:

"I then flew into your corpse. And died."

These guys are checking out Star Citizen and do not have very positive things to say.

KM Scorchio posted:

What the actual gently caress.

Full Frontal Yeti posted:

Tossing out some more game play/initiating/generating concepts here.

If you're more a do gooder kind of player/good natured. And looking for some space combat PvP:

Hang out at any cry-astro station. Patrol the area and take care of any trouble makers. People firing on others in this area.
Declare in chart you're patrolling the cry station for the security of the citizens or something. Mention something about players shooting parked ships are pansies or whatever.
Challenge any more thug minded player on the server in general and you'll probably find you get offered some good PvP opportunities consistently.

You could just say I'm at X location for space combat of course. But as I say a little flair can go a long way. Look at Brad he's got 37 pieces of flair. And in the flair you might "sell" it in some way others than just offering up some hot spacey combat action to any takers.
In this I'm mostly thinking about "goading" them on a bit. The target audience being players playing at thugs in their mind/game style.

Or patrol the Security Station and deny illegal guns to players. Declare in chat that the illegal distribution of guns at the security station has been shut down. Lawful citizens steer clear of the Security station, all approaching ships will be presumed thugs and fired up on.

In general enforced protection of locations players tend to get thugged out at, will work well for making public chat declarations that basically challenge the thugs or any neutrals looking for space combat challenge, and draw them to you.

Take it tot he next step for some do goodery.
If you've got the patience to offer escort protection with asking for a fight in chat openly.
Offer up your willingness to fly as protection for any player wanting to attempt the noodle run or other cargo moving attempt.
It can take a while to move some cargo and get it in ship. All that time they are just sitting ducks for pad killers, ship thieves, and other ne'er do wells.
Or maybe just clumsy bad pilot fools like me. Sorry the other day random lancer noodle run person.

But choosing to do this is only a well done do gooder thing if you don't public advertise it all. So when you advertise your aid in public chat, tell them to private invite you for chat so as to not bring on bad news. If you've got more thug minded listening you may have actually made it harder on them than it would have been.
I know if I heard a pilot was making a noodle run and had protection for their ship.
Well that sounds like a real challenging ship heist mission to me.

Speaking of the other side of the fun fence.
Upon which the grass is just as green, though personal alignment lenses may be tinted differently.

If I had a crew of 4-6 space thugs. We'd take control of both repair stations and flaunt it to all the uptights that they couldn't get a repair anymore.
Not without saying into public chat that the Yeti space thugs totally RULE!!!!
Obviously doing such a thing on a sever would likely draw out some space combat vigilantes to try and save the day for all the booshie citizens.

Or I might consider taking control of SSK and declaring that free guns for all the kids was in effect, and anyone who had a problem with it could file a complaint at the SSK with my thug crew in person.

In general a program of enforced denial of resource/location access on a server will be a thug thing to do more than a doo gooder thing.
It will pull do gooders and thug haters alike out for action.

If you space thug, I highly recommend you don't work alone. Even if the do gooders don't purposefully co-op, they still might be multiple do gooders listening. You can bet you likely draw most of em. But you also get the actually good pilots too. Some one who is good at a thing will generally step to the challenge of anyone claiming to be good at what they are good at. Well as a ship thief maybe working alone is best, that's good one person work as a lot of ships only hold one anyway. But anyway space thugging is far more fun with friends. I find it's easier to get legit work on my own if I go looking for it, than thugging out the galaxy. Solo never rolled solo.
Do gooders applying such tactics are less often/likely to find themselves set upon by as many players at once generally.
The other goods won't be taking it to them and may come aid them. they may engage in friendly combat if no other good action comes along. And all the neutrals are just glad to benefit and are unlikely to challenge them unless again due to lack of other actin.
but then that was the point of getting in chat, it did wind up bringing you that space combat PvP action you did seek.

in all cases the general idea is for space combat pilots (which you will find more of right now I feel than FPSers) to consider how they seek their combat.
Do you randomly hop system to system? Do you try and wait for it to come to you somewhere?
Or do you actively fish for it? Probably get more of it if you're more active in the ways you try to obtain it.
Selling it, dressing it up in some lore or flavor text, could be considered the polite way to troll someone into action.
Maybe action that you and they were both seeking anyway but just hadn't found the right way to "hook up" yet.

And if you're selling it, consider who you're selling it to. In one advert you might pluck the strings of interest in more players if you just have a little flair or style in what you offer. No need to be an RPer, these are just the examples I use. Sell whatever you got and just ask the server for what you want plain and simple. At _____ for space combat.

it's an open huge map sand box world.
If you want to really focus on what the space combat PvP is like in that of the AC environment, you can help make that be what you can be doing non stop in your server.
Just fire up chat and sell what you have to offer. If there are enough of you in the server, you'll wind having lots and lots of space combat without having to wonder when the next one will come around.

As a wise man.
"If you don't make any calls, you don't make any sales."

G0RF posted:

"I then flew into your corpse. And died."

These guys are checking out Star Citizen and do not have very positive things to say.

trucutru posted:

Post package split: $45 for either Star Citizen or Squadron 42; can add-on the other for $15

G0RF posted:

"I then flew into your corpse. And died."

These guys are checking out Star Citizen and do not have very positive things to say.

Mirificus posted:

darkarchon posted:

Done and done. Paypal dispute has been started.

Breetai posted:

Im phone posting because my home Internet is completely dead otherwise I'd do it myself , but can someone find and post a link to this reddit thread or better still do me a solid and also pose the question in it as to why $45 for a base game and $60 for base plus expansion is cool and good for star citizen but $15 for base and $60 for the whole package is egregious big business evil publisher price gouging when it's Elite?

Mirificus posted:

Junkozeyne posted:

I'm not sure how the dispute is going but there is still plenty of room to argue with their CS. If you have a package that entitles you to access to Star Citizen/Squadron42 then they should be legally obligated to grant you the refund, even if they lie about their "14 day grace period". What you quoted at them so far isn't really anything to back you up since it isn't actual law. EU regulations mean nothing if they aren't put into the law of the respective nation. In Germany you are entitled to a refund for a "Fernabsatzvertrag" according to § 312g II BGB (https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bgb/__312g.html). The actual refund is detailed in §355 BGB (https://dejure.org/gesetze/BGB/355.html) and says you have to let them that you want a refund (which you did by contacting CS) and are bound by the 14-day limit. You also have to return anything granted by the contract but that is trivial for them by just deleting the package. Finally §356 BGB II (http://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/bgb/__356.html) says that the 14-day period begins after you got the complete delivery of the promised goods, which hasn't even happened yet. Note also that it means the complete product and by their own standard an alpha is not the finished version of their product.

It would probably help with Paypal if you sent the CIG an answer with reference to the laws that they indeed can't simply wave away the refund request. If they give an answer that still only says "Nuh-uh we don't have to do anything" it gives you something concrete to show Paypal that you are being hosed over.

grimcreaper posted:

this is an interesting idea. the question is, will i survive the awful acting if its doubled in bad acting every second?