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Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


My favorite is still James Gordon seeking out Oracle in the Injustice comic and making it apparent that for years he's turned a blind eye to her, Wayne and Grayson. When she asked how he knew, he yelled, "BECAUSE I'M A DETECTIVE!"

Second favorite is how everyone was playing along with Wolverine when it came to his Patch disguise.

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Parahexavoctal
Oct 10, 2004

I AM NOT BEING PAID TO CORRECT OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS! DONKEY!!

Wanderer posted:

I always thought the last piece of the puzzle for Urich had to have been when Peter admitted to JJJ that he knew Daredevil's secret identity, back during Bendis's "Out" storyline. I have no real firm basis for that besides that it would sort of make sense.

I'm pretty sure Urich explicitly stated that was the last piece, yeah. (Well, that and the fact that if Spider-Man was seen rescuing people from a fire, Peter would smell like he'd been in a fire.)

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Parahexavoctal posted:

I'm pretty sure Urich explicitly stated that was the last piece, yeah. (Well, that and the fact that if Spider-Man was seen rescuing people from a fire, Peter would smell like he'd been in a fire.)

I refuse to grant Ben Urich any clues that revolve around his sense of smell, as Ben Urich spent the 1980s and '90s with a lit cigarette wedged into every hole in his face.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Choco1980 posted:

The exception being that one story about Aunt May knowing Pete was Spidey the whole time, which was one of the best spider-man moments in his whole many decades of existence. (And was of course ret-conned out.)

At least it let JMS do his own May finding out story which was also really good.

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

Random Stranger posted:

At least it let JMS do his own May finding out story which was also really good.

While the story was really good, I still prefer the version where Aunt May always knew, because despite the fact that it clashes with some of her characterization on hating that hoodlum Spider-Man, it gives more credit to the character recognizing and coming to terms that her son bravely risks his life every day both from a sense of responsibility and of in a way apologizing for Ben's murder.

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?
As part of The Pricipiled JJJ talk and now this I always thought it would have been great if Jameson reveled that he knew Peter was Spiderman the whole time and he decided to call Spider-man a menace in an attempt to get this smug fifteen year old kid who's looking to get famous by playing crimefighter to stop before he pisses of some mob boss and get thrown into the Hudson wearing a pair of cement boots. Jameson kept it up because it seemed to motivate Peter to do better.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Also, y'know, because it sold papers really well which you can spin as "it allowed the boring real stories to get eyeballs on them."

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


In the 1996 Daily Bugle mini-series, Ben Urich found out a congressman pushing puritanical laws through that Jonah endorsed had a porn star mistress who worked for a mob boss. The mob was planning to blackmail him with her profession.





David D. Davidson posted:

As part of The Pricipiled JJJ talk and now this I always thought it would have been great if Jameson reveled that he knew Peter was Spiderman the whole time and he decided to call Spider-man a menace in an attempt to get this smug fifteen year old kid who's looking to get famous by playing crimefighter to stop before he pisses of some mob boss and get thrown into the Hudson wearing a pair of cement boots. Jameson kept it up because it seemed to motivate Peter to do better.

That's dumb. Jonah's genuine feelings about Spider-man are a huge part of his character.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
One Punch Man.
Don't piss off Silver Fang.

Spoilered because new.





Say Nothing fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Feb 7, 2016

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
In addition to being a comic reader, I'm a wrestling fan. There's terminology in wrestling called "turning face". Essentially it means you become a good guy, either by default because who you're facing is even more of a bastard than you, or because you take a principled stand, because everybody, even assholes, have lines they won't cross. I'm a big fan of the second kind, and JJJ "turning face" in Ultimate Spider-Man is one of the most iconic examples of that in comics history. It made sense. It allowed him to still be JJJ while realizing that he had his limits in a logical way. One of Bendis' crowning moments.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Ultimate Spider-Man is a really good series, overall. There are a few low points (the Deadpool arc was awful!), but overall, it's great. Ultimate JJJ is just one of many good things in the series.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


In some kinda spider-man-minus-spider-man spin-off, a series of one-shots looking at stuff like "where did Crusher Hogan get his gimmick?" or "what's it like for cops who have to work around Spider-Man's shenanigans?", I remember an issue that was JJJ at a therapist session.

The only detail I can recall is that he firmly believed Spider-Man (among other super-fucks) was a jackass, and real heroes are either emergency personnel, armed service members, or astronauts (ie, like his son).

It struck me as basically the thesis of Kingdom Come, retold with less myth and more cigar: superhumans working outside or above the system destabilize it, and make the world worse. I'd agree with him if super-folks were real, but since they exist only to entertain, their being self-involved drama-babies has almost no downside.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

David D. Davidson posted:

As part of The Pricipiled JJJ talk and now this I always thought it would have been great if Jameson reveled that he knew Peter was Spiderman the whole time and he decided to call Spider-man a menace in an attempt to get this smug fifteen year old kid who's looking to get famous by playing crimefighter to stop before he pisses of some mob boss and get thrown into the Hudson wearing a pair of cement boots. Jameson kept it up because it seemed to motivate Peter to do better.

This was sort of implied in the original run on Young Avengers. There's a scene with Jonah decrying the titular team, and Jessica Jones makes some snarky remark... which leads to Jonah giving a monologue about when he was very young, his hero was Bucky. Just like all his pals at school. They all wanted to be the sidekick, to be the kid hero saving the day, and they'd go around the neighbourhood pretending to be him, playing Captain America.

Then Bucky died trying to stop a missile. And it wasn't so fun to play anymore.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


There's a lot going on with Jonah, but to me his motivation has always been essentially this.



He's lost sight of his principles, and Spider-man reminds him of that, and it hurts him more than anything else could.

Ugenesis
May 1, 2003
The super hero secret identity thing always reminds me of this skit from SNL.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clark-kent/2861360

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Lurdiak posted:

There's a lot going on with Jonah, but to me his motivation has always been essentially this.



He's lost sight of his principles, and Spider-man reminds him of that, and it hurts him more than anything else could.

While it's nice to have a bright clear picture of JJJ, that is some clunky comics writing. I won't exactly say it's bad, because it's a product of the time it was written, but wow it has not aged well at all.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


It's fine, it's just a soliloquy.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Ugenesis posted:

The super hero secret identity thing always reminds me of this skit from SNL.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clark-kent/2861360

This raises an interesting question, which is why was The Rock never cast as Superman in films :smith:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


You know the answer.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Whiteness Deficiency Syndrome :smith:

Iggles
Nov 24, 2004

By Jove! Commoners!

About as convincing as Clark Kent as Dean Cain was?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Too many people can smell what he's cooking?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Iggles posted:

About as convincing as Clark Kent as Dean Cain was?

Hey, he kept the Rock/Dwayne Johnson mystery going for years without even wearing a dumb pair of glasses.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Travis343 posted:

Hey, he kept the Rock/Dwayne Johnson mystery going for years without even wearing a dumb pair of glasses.

Wait wait wait. You're trying to tell me Dwayne Johnson is The Rock?!

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

I still have no idea what a jabroni is.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Norns posted:

I still have no idea what a jabroni is.

If you have to ask...

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Norns posted:

I still have no idea what a jabroni is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCV9254WaLQ&t=20s

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Feb 9, 2016

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Travis343 posted:

Hey, he kept the Rock/Dwayne Johnson mystery going for years without even wearing a dumb pair of glasses.

Yeah I could have sworn it was Vin Diesel. I mean, you never saw both of them in the same room at the same time right?

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Scaramouche posted:

Yeah I could have sworn it was Vin Diesel. I mean, you never saw both of them in the same room at the same time right?

If you haven't seen Vin Diesel and The Rock in the same room at the same time you haven't seen some of the best movies ever made.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Skwirl posted:

If you haven't seen Vin Diesel and The Rock in the same room at the same time you haven't seen some of the best movies ever made.

I sort of assumed it was like, special effects. Like how in The Parent Trap, Hayley Mills wasn't actually twins.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

So...the jabroni is the thing that smooths the ice in a hockey rink?

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

Travis343 posted:

I sort of assumed it was like, special effects. Like how in The Parent Trap, Hayley Mills wasn't actually twins.

Yeah see! This guy gets it. I thought it was all mirrors and composited split shots and the like. For me I figured it out when I met Vin Diesel in person and realized he was way too short.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Scaramouche posted:

Yeah see! This guy gets it. I thought it was all mirrors and composited split shots and the like. For me I figured it out when I met Vin Diesel in person and realized he was way too short.

Maybe the person you met was just Vin Diesel's sidekick and confidant* dressed up as him as part of an attempt to preserve his secret identity. Like how Batman sometimes gets Robin to dress up as Bruce Wayne.


* = In this case it was probably Dame Judy Dench dressed as Vin.

dordreff
Jul 16, 2013

Travis343 posted:

Hey, he kept the Rock/Dwayne Johnson mystery going for years without even wearing a dumb pair of glasses.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl


I don't see a dumb pair of glasses in that picture.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/dynamite3_bookbundle

Seems somewhat interesting, was the Django/Zorro crossover good?

smashpro1
Mar 1, 2009

Shirley, these things happen in video games. We can't get hung up on real-world morality.

Rincewinds posted:

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/dynamite3_bookbundle

Seems somewhat interesting, was the Django/Zorro crossover good?

The first issue was in the last Dynamite Humble Bundle and was pretty good.

edit: found a link to when I posted a few pages when it happened: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3611347&userid=147919#post438802984

smashpro1 fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Feb 10, 2016

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Rincewinds posted:

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/dynamite3_bookbundle

Seems somewhat interesting, was the Django/Zorro crossover good?

Yep. Tarantino's contribution seems to have been continuing Django's growth into a folk hero type. And Wagner's run on Zorro apparently plays into the aging version of the fox in the book. The art is very pretty and the colouring does a great job of maintaining the feel of the Django movie. The single issues also came with soundtrack listings for songs that would fit, kind of like David Walker included/s with his Shaft comics.

Shaft is also in that bundle and is great. Hell, it's almost worth it for the Cowan/Sienkiewicz covers, but Walker's script does a great job getting into Shaft's head, and Evely's art is excellent as well. She does a great job of making everyone seem stylish but real, like a better dressed version of the actual period in some ways.

Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Feb 12, 2016

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Lurdiak posted:

He's lost sight of his principles, and Spider-man reminds him of that, and it hurts him more than anything else could.

I feel that there's a lot of Ditko's philosophy in this.

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Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
I am torn between wanting to post all highlights of Dark Cybertron, but I worry that it would take way too much wall of text to explain the backstory.

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