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Cleretic posted:Because I remember someone around here correctly saying that Metroid: Other M should've ended with a shot of Samus watching the credits and going 'what the gently caress was THAT'. Poor Samus.  
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Other M was an okay game in a total vacuum - no cutscenes, pixel hunts, or comparisons to the much better gameplay of the series it claims to be a part of. Unfortunately for it, all those things do exist.  E: Basically VVV that. AlphaKretin has a new favorite as of 04:37 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Len posted:Other M wasn't that bad. I would still rather play that than Metroid 2. loving copy paste locations are goddamn impossible to navigate easily. I didn't mind Other M that much once I got into the mindset to enjoy the cutscenes as being 'so bad it's good' (the gameplay's genuinely pretty decent), but everything about the overall package fits as an in-universe lovely blockbuster action movie that's loosely based on a mission Samus actually did.
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Lord Lambeth posted:I don't think he looks younger than his dead space 1 counterpart. If anything I think he looks older. I thought I'd edited out the 'old' descriptor, but yeah, DS1 Clarke is some rando fuckin' schlub and you're never meant to see his actual face. From behind he looks like he could be in his late 50's. Which is how I took him to be because it was awesome to go through the entire game imagining him muttering "too old for this poo poo" every time he stomps a torso. DS2 they decided to put his face in front of the camera a lot so they needed to make that face pretty.
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Len posted:Other M wasn't that bad. I would still rather play that than Metroid 2. loving copy paste locations are goddamn impossible to navigate easily. I paid $5 for Other M and I still felt like I got ripped off. Enemies that attack from offscreen, lovely combat that has all the depth of a petri dish, and the unbelievable awkwardness of controlling a character in 3D space with a digital input is way worse than a game whose designer's reach exceeded their grasp. Metroid 2's flaws were a result of trying to accommodate the Game Boy's hardware, and would be great with a larger resolution, more tile sets, and a map. Other M's flaws are from being shittily designed.
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Inco posted:I paid $5 for Other M and I still felt like I got ripped off. Enemies that attack from offscreen, lovely combat that has all the depth of a petri dish, and the unbelievable awkwardness of controlling a character in 3D space with a digital input is way worse than a game whose designer's reach exceeded their grasp. Metroid 2's flaws were a result of trying to accommodate the Game Boy's hardware, and would be great with a larger resolution, more tile sets, and a map. Other M's flaws are from being shittily designed. Did Adam give you permission to post this? Any game ever that takes place in the future of today: The fetish for weaponry thats been outdated for centuries. See any FPS that has to have a mandatory crossbow weapon, or hell its good to see in 2035 a katana (loving seriously?) is a great weapon to use in a technologically advanced future. At least make it a laser katana, a laser crossbow, something that I wont find in my grandpa's basement.
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Half-Life 2's crossbow was some cool energy bolt launcher thing assembled from scrap if that counts.
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AlphaKretin posted:Half-Life 2's crossbow was some cool energy bolt launcher thing assembled from scrap if that counts. Didn't it shoot red-hot pieces of rebar?
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Leal posted:Did Adam give you permission to post this? Your grandpa has crossbows and swords in his basement? poo poo dude you've got a cool grandpa. But seriously, I think that style trumps substance 9 times out of 10 on this poo poo, and I can get behind any game that gives us fun poo poo to play with. Styling it after old-school weapons might be a bit awkward but, y'know, I'll take it if it means that I don't have to play another pistol-smg-assault rifle-weapons that I mostly won't use because I have the assault rifle progression chart.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Didn't it shoot red-hot pieces of rebar? Quite possibly, I last played it years ago on a lovely screen.  Still fits into the setting better if you justify it as whoever made it doing what they could while hiding from the Combine. 
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It's rebar heated by a battery with a rifle scope attached. Christ knows where they found the carbon fiber for the torsion bits though, not too many autoclaves lying around in the post-apocalypse I'd think. Also, it bugs me how you never see anybody else using one, like they were put in the world explicitly for Gordon Freeman's benefit.
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StandardVC10 posted:Also, it bugs me how you never see anybody else using one, like they were put in the world explicitly for Gordon Freeman's benefit. I figure they're incredibly loving dangerous to use, and nobody told Gordon. I mean, it's heating metal to bright-hot levels in the open air, and none of the resistance are wearing much in the way of protective gear. Gordon, at least, is in a protective suit that's probably designed to be able to handle stuff like that sometimes.
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I'm assuming that Prime 1, 2 and 3 are a single continuing story? Why do 2 and 3 look way more cartoony than 1? Like, without the labels I would assume that the first one was a totally different series (or at least a much later instalment).Somfin posted:Your grandpa has crossbows and swords in his basement? Young man with a basement full of swords and crossbows = loser.
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Tiggum posted:I'm assuming that Prime 1, 2 and 3 are a single continuing story? Why do 2 and 3 look way more cartoony than 1? Like, without the labels I would assume that the first one was a totally different series (or at least a much later instalment). Considering Zero Suit Samus' appearance in Smash Bros Brawl I would assume it was an ultimatum from Nintendo.
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Yea when Nintendo started focusing more on Samus outside of the suit the character really took a nose dive, which is surprising for someone that never had much of a personality beyond Other M.
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Alteisen posted:Yea when Nintendo started focusing more on Samus outside of the suit the character really took a nose dive, which is surprising for someone that never had much of a personality beyond Other M. She had a personality. It was just understated. She gave no fucks and killed entire planets for the sake of wiping out potential biological threats. She also didn't have panic attacks when Ridley showed up.
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She was a decent blank slate character earlier on, not very interesting but at least she was independent, and the fact that the character wasn't obtrusive helped the atmosphere of the prime trilogy. Then someone at nintendo thought it would be a good idea to hand metroid to Team Breast Physics.
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Digirat posted:She was a decent blank slate character earlier on, not very interesting but at least she was independent, and the fact that the character wasn't obtrusive helped the atmosphere of the prime trilogy. Then someone at nintendo thought it would be a good idea to hand metroid to Team Breast Physics. She was also 6'3" and nearly two hundred pounds of brute force muscle. Then someone at Nintendo decided that female characters need to be whip-thin and petite in order to sell.
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Digirat posted:She was a decent blank slate character earlier on, not very interesting but at least she was independent, and the fact that the character wasn't obtrusive helped the atmosphere of the prime trilogy. Then someone at nintendo thought it would be a good idea to hand metroid to Team Breast Physics. Team Ninja handled the gameplay and nothing more, blame Sakamato for how Samus turned out.
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Tiggum posted:I'm assuming that Prime 1, 2 and 3 are a single continuing story? Why do 2 and 3 look way more cartoony than 1? Like, without the labels I would assume that the first one was a totally different series (or at least a much later instalment). I can't look it up right now, but I'd assume it's to match up with Zero Mission's design for her, which I think came out after Prime 1 and started the whole skintight spacesuit thing that Other M went all in on.
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Digirat posted:She was a decent blank slate character earlier on, not very interesting but at least she was independent, and the fact that the character wasn't obtrusive helped the atmosphere of the prime trilogy. Then someone at nintendo thought it would be a good idea to hand metroid to Team Breast Physics. Yeah, as mentioned Sakamoto is entirely to blame for Other M Samus being the way she was. He actually took the reins for the game in an effort to give a big middle finger to the Prime trilogy, as it didn't fit his "vision" for Samus when he made the previous games. So he made Other M, his official new-canon backstory for Samus.
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death .cab for qt posted:Yeah, as mentioned Sakamoto is entirely to blame for Other M Samus being the way she was. He actually took the reins for the game in an effort to give a big middle finger to the Prime trilogy, as it didn't fit his "vision" for Samus when he made the previous games. So he made Other M, his official new-canon backstory for Samus. It's amazing how much worse his story was than the complete lack of a story she had before
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Somfin posted:Your grandpa has crossbows and swords in his basement? They're next to his m1garand because hey're the only things that Obama hasn't installed computers into so he can turn off the weaponry of the American people and steal them. My grandpa took the story of MGS4 seriously. Hey, Xcom! Enemies getting free moves upon being sighted is loving bullshit! I'm not even talking about aliens who run to cover, no I'm talking about loving chyrsalids getting free moves to get right into my rookie's face so they can kill him as soon as I hit end turn!
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Sic Semper Goon posted:Oh, Rosh. [snip] Oh, yes! Looking forward to that. WeaponGradeSadness posted:I've only ever played Academy so it's always weird to me when people talk about how great Kyle Katarn is and how he's the best part of the EU and etc etc etc because in that game all he does is go to the mission area with the new student, say "well, I've gotta take a poo poo, peace" and then the student takes down a small army of stormtroopers, criminals, Tusken raiders, and whatever else single-handedly, and then Katarn shows up afterwards and is all "wow I feel about ten pounds lighter-- Which makes it even funnier that Rosh complains that Katarn never lets him anything important on missions. I guess he just thinks that Rosh is an incapable tool and has to do everything, but he takes a power nap during your character's missions.
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what'd I miss????" every single mission. Come on, dude.
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Its a metaphor for (your) life
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Lara Croft, speaking to player in voiceover: What is... love? Baby... don't hurt me. Don't hurt me no more.
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oldpainless posted:I think Lara should have looked at the camera every 5 minutes or so and said "hey guys, keep me safe ok? I love you" and winked and then a branch could have gone through her throat. 
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oldpainless posted:I think Lara should have looked at the camera every 5 minutes or so and said "hey guys, keep me safe ok? I love you" and winked and then a branch could have gone through her throat. But enough about Alyx Vance.
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Sleeveless posted:But enough about Alyx Vance. lol
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death .cab for qt posted:Yeah, as mentioned Sakamoto is entirely to blame for Other M Samus being the way she was. He actually took the reins for the game in an effort to give a big middle finger to the Prime trilogy, as it didn't fit his "vision" for Samus when he made the previous games. So he made Other M, his official new-canon backstory for Samus. Yeah, that didn't happen. He just said that Other M and the Prime series were two completely separate stories, so there wouldn't be any callbacks to it in the game.
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I cheated like crazy during the final missions of The Witness because I hate being hosed with. Everything was splashed with paint or obscured by poo poo or had people standing on the puzzles. Solve the same puzzles as before, but gently caress you, was how I interpreted it. Holy god that ending was dumb. I would have to go out of my way to find out what he was going for and I'm pretty sure I'd still hate it. When people complain about john blow i thought it was some dumb bullshit like how the internet hates anyone for any reason, but now I get it. Now to go back to when people were complaining about the ending in huge blocks of spoilers to find out if they hated it the way I hated it. e: Weird. I thought I saw a huge brick of spoilers followed by an unspoiled reply saying "it's all a nuclear disarmament metaphor" and I didn't get that at all but I was constantly looking for signs it was true, and then the game was over and I still didn't get it, and I guess I was mistaken. I mean if a plot existed I missed it. I wanted to find those spoilers to find what the plot was. Just seemed like a pointless puzzle island with no denouement. Krinkle has a new favorite as of 23:09 on Feb 8, 2016 |
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Krinkle posted:I cheated like crazy during the final missions of The Witness because I hate being hosed with. Everything was splashed with paint or obscured by poo poo or had people standing on the puzzles. Solve the same puzzles as before, but gently caress you, was how I interpreted it. The people in the witness thread get really upset if you think the game has flaws and isn't the second coming
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Krinkle posted:e: Weird. I thought I saw a huge brick of spoilers followed by an unspoiled reply saying "it's all a nuclear disarmament metaphor" and I didn't get that at all but I was constantly looking for signs it was true, and then the game was over and I still didn't get it, and I guess I was mistaken. I mean if a plot existed I missed it. I wanted to find those spoilers to find what the plot was. Just seemed like a pointless puzzle island with no denouement. I haven't played any of these games but Braid is the one that's a metaphor about nukes, I think, hence the lack of spoilers
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Suitaru posted:I haven't played any of these games but Braid is the one that's a metaphor about nukes, I think, hence the lack of spoilers I get that even less I mean I spent the entire time on The Witness looking for bikini atoll references I mean it's at least an island and there's one loving sinister black cloud and maybe you can stand in a location and make them all look like a mushroom, I tried, kept trying, but what the gently caress did braid have to do with nukes? It was about creepy guys?
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rodbeard posted:I feel like braid started the trend of indie games putting more effort into being artistic than they do in to being fun. Before Braid the indie games market was basically nothing but Newgrounds trash, I'd take pretentiousness over dicks, farts, and anime porn any day.
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Sleeveless posted:and anime porn Thats still a thing, lemme tell you about steam greenlight...
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Leal posted:Thats still a thing, lemme tell you about steam greenlight... The crap on steam is anime porn with the porn taken out, which makes me wonder what the gently caress it is they're even selling.
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Krinkle posted:kept trying, but what the gently caress did braid have to do with nukes? It was about creepy guys? Braid basically said "nukes are bad. Scientists figured it out that it was bad well before they could split the atom, the science wasn't really cooperating and MANS HUBRIS in chasing nukes was bad, shoulda never done the science, drat you civilization, drat youuuuuuuuu"
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