thatfatkid posted:

Hahaha really? Comparing a self inflicted health issue to poverty? Wow, just wow...

hooman posted:

What is this mysterious link between being poor and being obese?

What is the strange synchonicity between lack of access to education and jail?

What ever bizarre thing could be drawing these factors together?

Nah mustn't be anything, every outcome can only possibly have one cause and that single cause is human agency.

EDIT: Sorry Recoombe didn't refresh before I hit post. This is seriously loving dumb though.

thatfatkid posted:

u r dumb

Recoome posted:

not everyone here is arguing in good faith so just shut the gently caress up

thatfatkid posted:

Hahaha really? Comparing a self inflicted health issue to poverty? Wow, just wow...

quote:

By any measure, Ms Carnell’s political career has been controversial

and checkered. On December 7, 1997, Carnell, then the Chief Minister of

the ACT government rolled her motor vehicle just outside the border of

the ACT while returning to Canberra from a social function at a winery.

Carnell left the scene of the accident. The New South Wales police

arrived at the scene shortly after Carnell had left it. A male friend

travelling behind her brought her back to her Canberra office.

Carnell was not breathalysed because having left the scene of the

accident and returned to Canberra, she was no longer within the

jurisdiction of the New South Wales police.

In a quaint irony, Ms Carnell was subsequently appointed to the Board

of the NRMA. In an election which was required for her further

membership of the Board, she was dumped from the Board. On the occasion

of a subsequent casual vacancy caused by the resignation of another

Board member who had been popularly elected, Carnell was again

appointed to the Board. She recently resigned ahead of an election in

which it was anticipated that she would again be defeated.

The male friend who was following Carnell from the winery and who drove

her to her office, was local real estate agent and land developer,

Derek Whitcombe. Crikey does not intend and nor is any inference to be

drawn that Whitcombe had a curious and potentially, very beneficial

relationship with the ACT Liberal government and Carnell in particular.

On 18 December 1997, Carnell signed a secret Cabinet submission

recommending an exclusive joint-venture land deal in which her

government would give Whitcombe rights to develop a large package of

land on the ACT-NSW border at Hall. Carnell was not the relevant

responsible Minister and officers of the local planning authority had

advised against developing the land.

The recommendation was considered at a Cabinet meeting on December 22.

The submission caused an acrimonious debate among the Ministers with

fierce objection to the submission from a number of Ministers.

In spite of the division that the proposal had created at Cabinet, on

13 January 1998, three days before going into official caretaker mode

for the February ACT elections, the ACT government signed a Preliminary

Agreement with Mr Whitcombe in his capacity as a director of a shelf

company he had set up on January 6.

The leaked Cabinet submission disclosed that Ms Carnell had committed

the government to an exclusive deal with Whitcombe even though he had

not lodged a formal application for development as required under the

ACT Land Act. This agreement was in direct conflict with previous

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katlington posted:

With carnel being given a position the wacky hijinks that got her tossed from the public side of politics the first time in the act should be national news maybe

Page 1 of 3 lol

http://www.crikey.com.au/2002/09/09/the-rare-highs-and-many-lows-of-kate-carnell/

quote:

He said a public health crisis was emerging, with online pornography so widely available that it was "impossible for children not to see it".

"You only have to put innocent words like 'love' into Google and it takes you three or four results to get to a porn site," Dr Tucci told the seminar.

"We will see a lot more adults emerging with sexually offending behaviour and sexually harmful behaviour towards others.

"I think the community would be shocked by the kinds of consequences we are seeing in a small group of children being exposed to this kind of pornography.

"This is a public health crisis. Like smoking or other public health issues, this will have long-term consequences."

quote:

Its all the transgender, homosexual, political correct rubbish they are bombarded with at school that's doing it.
They don't know whether they're Arthur or Martha for Gods sake.

quote:

Crikey does not intend and nor is any inference to be

drawn that Whitcombe had a curious and potentially, very beneficial

relationship with the ACT Liberal government and Carnell in particular

tithin posted:

Recoome rhymes with doom

Recoome posted:

Recoome posted:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-09/health-crisis-looming-over-accessibility-of-porn-for-children/7153016


I think this article is interesting because there's a couple of issues which are being conflated. Firstly, a google search of "love" does not actually bring a porn site in the first page, so that's hyperbole. Secondly, even if the statistic of reported sexual offenders is rising, this could be due to both a broadening of the definition of "sexually offending behaviour" and better detection methods.

Obviously children shouldn't be viewing pornography, but pornography itself is hardly a scourge upon society. What is a scourge, however, is societal views regarding the sexual objectification of women, and this is a problem which pervades the entirety of our society. It's difficult to disagree with Coralie Alison, the approach to change this will require intervention at multiple levels. Personally, I'd rate the sexualisation of women in ads, regardless of media, to be more of an issue because it normalises these values within consumerism.

e: Here's a brilliant quote from the ABC Facebook page


This particular line of argument is unfortunately the logical conclusion of attacking pornography in general. That is, societal values have now been weakened by the dreaded communists PC crowd and this is but a symptom to the underlying disease. I had to actually check up on who was saying what because it has a distinctly Christian/Family values vibe to it.

Milky Moor posted:

dehumanize yourself and face to determinism

Endman posted:

I prefer fatalism tbh

Birb Katter posted:

Google filters its results depending on who searched for it. So it may not show hard core pornography to you when you search for love because they know you're not capable of getting an erection or what ever. This person who only searches for 'love me some muff diving' and 'love to see naked women jumping on trampolines' will have the results skewed towards their interests.

Frogmanv2 posted:

Oh, cool, well, as long as your gut tells you something is right, then it must be.

Im not saying that diet doesnt play a part. It clearly does. What I am saying is that genetics can play a massive part in regulating how much food you eat.

Birb Katter posted:

Lambie got vined today


https://vine.co/v/i1txbrZhFXx

Birb Katter posted:

https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/696860571925217280

MysticalMachineGun posted:

I hope the rest of the answer was "No, senator, that's ridiculous"

gay picnic defence posted:

I just find it hard to accept that genetics somehow suddenly kicked in over the last 30 years or so, giving us an obesity epidemic while leaving developing countries untouched.

EvilElmo posted:

Turns out that is incorrect. What a shock, buzzfeed isn't a good source for political information.
edit: Is Mark even based in Canberra during sitting weeks? Did he go to the party room briefing held for journo's? Clearly that information wasn't from that briefing (cause you know, real journalists would have written about it). Quite a difference between 'nobody talked about it' to 'they talked about it, but didn't want to go on the record' (if you want to know why, look at party rules).


I feel sorry for the Hansard writers whenever Lambo speaks in the Senate, must be such hard work.

Serrath posted:

The most current models hold that you can genetically inherent the propensity to store larger amounts of fat in the presence of over abundant food, not the quality of being obese specifically

Laserface posted:

gently caress if only human beings had some kind of overriding free will they could engage to avoid unhealthy behaviour.

Laserface posted:

gently caress if only human beings had some kind of overriding free will they could engage to avoid unhealthy behaviour.

Frogmanv2 posted:

Free will is bollocks hth

Birb Katter posted:

Talking about it is not the same as speaking out about it and if 'party rules' are what stop you from treating humans with dignity then maybe you should change the name of them to 'party sucks'.

EvilElmo posted:

Cool.

Flick me a PM when the Greens form Government in their own right and we will compare policy positions.

Frogmanv2 posted:

It's going to take a lot longer when torture apologists like yourself are clogging up the wheels of change.

EvilElmo posted:

And you know, the fact they only appeal to a small section of the population.

Wow 8.6%.

Endman posted:

I think it's probably genetic, but more in terms of inherited behavioural characteristics. We've got an obesity epidemic because we live in an environment of overabundance that doesn't exist in the developing world.

Human behaviour is to consume based on your available means, eating more than necessary in times of abundance to make up for the times we lack the same resources. Only in the West we never have periods of going without certain crops and livestock.

If we sustained ourselves without importing foreign foodstuffs, we'd be forced into a season-based diet that our physiology is far better suited for because it was the norm only a century ago.

e: This is just my undergraduate opinion, of course. I am not a dietician.