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That's been one of the most frustrating aspects of this whole standoff. The militia and their supporters continue to talk about how they haven't done any harm during their occupation choosing to be willfully ignorant of thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of damage they have done. Further afield the economy of Burns has been affected by this as well, a significant number of firms have only been doing half days during the occupation and schools have been closed for long stretches. This is going to take a not insignificant amount of time for the area to recover, but the occupiers don't give two shits.
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Skinty McEdger posted:The militia and their supporters continue to talk about how they haven't done any harm during their occupation choosing to be willfully ignorant of thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of damage they have done. ... Look, you can't
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Feb 9, 2016 10:55
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Skinty McEdger posted:Further afield the economy of Burns has been affected by this as well, a significant number of firms have only been doing half days during the occupation and schools have been closed for long stretches. The refuge headquarters is a diaaster. But I bet that all in all, the town of Burns hasn't seen this kind of money pour in in a long time. All these protesters, press, and law enforcement buying food and fuel and renting hotel rooms. I'm sure the locals would be happier if all this "tourism" money was from a county fair or a rodeo, and not from the spectacle of gun toting scofflaws. But when all is said and done, the feds will be footing the bill to clean up the refuge, and the local businesses are setting records for hotel occupancy and snack sale.
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Feb 9, 2016 10:59
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I really hope a lot of these "protesters" or co-conspirators get their property taken from them to help foot the Burns bill. It'll probably be the first taxes any of them have payed in a long while if not ever.
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Feb 9, 2016 11:12
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:The refuge headquarters is a diaaster. But I bet that all in all, the town of Burns hasn't seen this kind of money pour in in a long time. All these protesters, press, and law enforcement buying food and fuel and renting hotel rooms. The local press have had a few articles up talking about the effects on the local economy. You're right in so much as they haven't had this number of people in the town in forever, but the actual industries and businesses that support the town aren't tourist driven and have been hit by the lost man hours and the disruption to the town. The tourism aspect is great for the hotels and diners, but wider afield iits had negative knock on effects.
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Feb 9, 2016 11:17
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Crabtree posted:I really hope a lot of these "protesters" or co-conspirators get their property taken from them to help foot the Burns bill. It'll probably be the first taxes any of them have payed in a long while if not ever. Supposedly a lot of loose guns were left behind at the refuge for some reason. They can have an auction!
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Obligatory joke about a dildo-tarp-and-gun gift shop, insert here. I can understand Fry, though. Just like for the people who joined ISIS, he's having the time of his life right now. The minute of fame, more or less. Even if he did not go to prison (won't happen, but assuming a hypothetical), what awaits him in his life outside the refuge? Being a complete no one. It's also like all those people suiciding themselves because they see no future except debt, chronic pain, and more of the same.
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Feb 9, 2016 11:33
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Space Skeleton posted:Supposedly a lot of loose guns were left behind at the refuge for some reason. They can have an auction! They probably will. With any luck the guns will show up at the next crazy militant take over, much like the auctioned bitcoins that still keep giving.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Imagine what the toilets are like Yeah that septic tank is probably gonna need to be dug up.
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Does the refuge have showers?
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Space Skeleton posted:Supposedly a lot of loose guns were left behind at the refuge for some reason. They can have an auction! Eh, they'll likely be taken as evidence. then held in storage for a while till everything settles, then destroyed. Doubly so if there's any illegal modifications made
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Skinty McEdger posted:Does the refuge have showers? Yeah, they mentioned it once back before it was camp bluetarp
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SocketWrench posted:Eh, they'll likely be taken as evidence. then held in storage for a while till everything settles, then destroyed. Doubly so if there's any illegal modifications made Good thing santilli was videotaping everything, they might be able to pick out who owns some of the illegally-modified guns and possibly charge them.
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meristem posted:Obligatory joke about a dildo-tarp-and-gun gift shop, insert here. BRB, putting in an NEA grant request.
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FAUXTON posted:Their episode on the Fenian Brotherhood is magical. their irish voices are the best. "aint it a thirst" their iraq war one is great and depressing, because you could see that everything could have gone alright if the bush admin had actualy listened to the cia/anyone and not hired retards and shills. meristem posted:Obligatory joke about a dildo-tarp-and-gun gift shop, insert here. pretty much. he is the dumb disenfranchised 20 somthing year old who terrorists/cults/whoever like to pick up.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:their irish voices are the best. "aint it a thirst" Cloauuevers.
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Skinty McEdger posted:That's been one of the most frustrating aspects of this whole standoff. The militia and their supporters continue to talk about how they haven't done any harm during their occupation choosing to be willfully ignorant of thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of damage they have done. Further afield the economy of Burns has been affected by this as well, a significant number of firms have only been doing half days during the occupation and schools have been closed for long stretches. Their whole philosophy is just an excuse for them to act like selfish jackasses while getting to feel self-righteous. At no point has caring about outsiders as anything other than potential supporters ever entered their minds. They just don't want to be introspective enough to become self aware and lose the empowered thrill by realizing how terrible they are. For all their ridiculous "non-violent" gun-toting approach, I'm sure that they'd have some way to justify themselves as innocent even if they had gotten around to shooting someone.
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Crabtree posted:I really hope a lot of these "protesters" or co-conspirators get their property taken from them to help foot the Burns bill. It'll probably be the first taxes any of them have payed in a long while if not ever. I truly hope that this cost is spread across every single person that participated in this insurrectionist bullshit; http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/01/12/3738570/the-true-victim-of-the-bundy-occupation-is-taxpayers/
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https://twitter.com/Patztense/status/696855971386302468 But how can you fit more unemployed sovcits in a trailer park?
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Knight posted:https://twitter.com/Patztense/status/696855971386302468 No hotheads but they want to make a stand against the federal government? Does not compute.
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Talmonis posted:The Rube had me laughing so hard my coworkers had to investigate to see if I was ok. My favorite dollops are the ones that basically prove that rules are the only reasons we don't behave like insane animals and when rules cease to be enforced, the inevitable happens Basically 10 cent beer night and the ford pinto are the best ones
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I think that's just how SovCits offer to split a rental? 
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Okay I take it back, the people of Burns just need to make sure they have a handful of people walking round every day in jackets that say "FBI" and get those sweet sweet Sov Cit tourist dollars.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:their irish voices are the best. "aint I got a thirst"
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Skinty McEdger posted:This is going to take a not insignificant amount of time for the area to recover, but the occupiers don't give two shits.
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Kro-Bar posted:No hotheads but they want to make a stand against the federal government? Does not compute. Makes perfect sense. They want to be able to claim making stand and bluster it all up like before, but not have the one or two psychos that's ready to actually follow through. These people just have a cowardly spoiled child mentality.
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There are several organizations in and around Burns that have been supporting the Refuge. Friends of Malheur is one: http://www.malheurfriends.org/ This is an all around non-profit that assists Refuge projects, and gathers volunteers to help with the big projects that just need manpower. It's referenced directly on the fed website about Malheur, so is probably the best choice. Malheur Field Station: http://www.malheurfieldstation.com/ This is a group that runs a bunch of buildings down the way from the actual Refuge HQ, where they bunk researchers and students who come out during the summers. Supporting either of those will get money directly where it needs to go, I think.
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meristem posted:Obligatory joke about a dildo-tarp-and-gun gift shop, insert here. While I get your assessment of Fry, I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection between 'doesn't want to give up their internet attention' and 'can't see a way to continue living that isn't full of one sort of intolerable pain or another'.
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Knight posted:https://twitter.com/Patztense/status/696855971386302468 Is an RV park different than a trailer park?
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Armyman25 posted:Is an RV park different than a trailer park? RV parks are more like campgrounds for RVs. So its a trailer park but the trailers actually move sometimes.
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Kro-Bar posted:No hotheads but they want to make a stand against the federal government? Does not compute. Maybe they should picket the RV park for not billing itself as the Gateway to the Harney County Resource Center.
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kartikeya posted:While I get your assessment of Fry, I'm not sure I'm seeing the connection between 'doesn't want to give up their internet attention' and 'can't see a way to continue living that isn't full of one sort of intolerable pain or another'. Because the moment he stops living the sovcit dream, he's going to prison for a long time, and he knows it. Even if he doesn't, by all accounts his life was (self-sabotaged) kinda lovely and aimless, and for probably the first time in his life he's someone that matters, albeit in a pretty hosed-up way. For someone with that kind of validation issue, going back is like taking a deep breath and then being forced back onto a ventilator.
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InterFaced posted:RV parks are more like campgrounds for RVs. So its a trailer park but the trailers actually move sometimes.
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No Butt Stuff posted:so wait is Cliven heading north now? Apparently. And bringing these with him  While grabbing that image I discovered that she believes cancer is a fungus
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SocketWrench posted:Eh, they'll likely be taken as evidence. then held in storage for a while till everything settles, then destroyed. Doubly so if there's any illegal modifications made I know you meant guns, but now I'm trying to imagine dildos with illegal modifications.
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SocketWrench posted:Eh, they'll likely be taken as evidence. then held in storage for a while till everything settles, then destroyed. Doubly so if there's any illegal modifications made I'd be highly surprised if one of the ex-occupiers doesn't come forward asking for his gun back. "Yes, mr. FBI agent, that one. The desert camo one with the folding stock and illegal full-auto modification. You can tell it's mine because it has 'this machine kills niggers' engraved on the side. Can I have it back...? why are you handcuffing me?"
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As a Millennial I posted:Apparently. And bringing these with him Other choice quote from the article, "If these young, hot little girls on campus have a firearm, I wonder how many men will want to assault them." 
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