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Holy poo poo I hate that 3D model art work. I honestly don't think I could pledge to it if that's what it will look like.
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The art is pretty ugly, but it still sounds significantly like my jam.
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Some of you might remember STAR PATROL from last August. The dude previously had a solid rep of turning games around and out in short time. Over the last six months he's been in printer hell getting hosed over again and again. He's basically leading a master class on how to handle a Kickstarter that goes wrong: continued updates with details, tracking numbers for the delayed components as they ship, and pictures when they arrive. He's been through frustration, anger, and resignation; now he's settled in a sort of grim determination to put this game out no matter who says otherwise.
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In the comments for The Walking Dead game, Mantic said that there's gonna be another expansion added to the base pledge. Presumably the Hershel's Farm one. That thing is gonna end up being a really good value
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Prefect Six posted:It's called Ares Project. I saw this in a shop like four or five years ago and vaguely considered it. Thank you for reminding me of it's existence!
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7th Sea second edition is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...mpaign=audience What's the betting it'll be out before Far West?
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Flavivirus posted:What's the betting it'll be out before Far West? What's the betting that the Sun will still rise tomorrow, that gravity won't randomly stop working in the next 60 seconds, and that water is in fact wet?
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Flavivirus posted:7th Sea second edition is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...mpaign=audience Not that I'm giving Wick money regardless; I'm just wondering.
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Evil Mastermind posted:Wasn't 7th Sea dumb? I seem to remember something about a stupid metaplot twist or two. ALIENS
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Evil Mastermind posted:Wasn't 7th Sea dumb? I seem to remember something about a stupid metaplot twist or two. Having a stupid metaplot twist or two is John Wick as gently caress. (I think it actually happened after he stopped writing for it, jokes aside)
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Feb 9, 2016 15:53
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Flavivirus posted:7th Sea second edition is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...mpaign=audience Well, apparently there's already a backer preview up, so that's a step ahead of Far West already! Evil Mastermind posted:Wasn't 7th Sea dumb? I seem to remember something about a stupid metaplot twist or two. Being fair, the metaplot stuff was almost all after Wick wasn't working on the line, but it was very...Wickian, in that there was a whole thing with "Almost every form of magic used by PCs is slowly destroying the world and letting in cthulhoid horrors. Who knows if that's staying given that he's already promised to fix other dumb bits, like "Our game advertising pirates and swashbuckling has no Africa or New World and almost no reason to travel by sea."
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7th Sea is the one with the incredibly transparent real-world-analogue nations, and eventually the alien metaplot that actually didn't really change anything about the game because no one gave a poo poo about it. I'm glad that he's still making zero efforts to make his fictional countries anything more than obvious pastiches. No prizes for guessing what the Sarnation Commonwealth is going to be. unseenlibrarian posted:Who knows if that's staying given that he's already promised to fix other dumb bits, like "Our game advertising pirates and swashbuckling has no Africa or New World and almost no reason to travel by sea." The Americas supplement is even part of the KS. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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7th Sea had a lot of flaws but the setting worked because of the pastiches, it made for a pretty rich and pulpy world and frankly the original system was the best representation of swashbuckling action (and even actual swordfighting) that I've ever seen. I admit, despite my 7th Sea avatar, that I haven't played it in ages and never actually got to play it much but I'm pretty excited about the notion if only because there's just no other game like it.
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rantmo posted:7th Sea had a lot of flaws but the setting worked because of the pastiches You can certainly do a swashbuckling setting without lazily transposing 15-17th century European nations into your game with zero effort made to make them interesting (and zero effort to make sure you're spelling foreign words correctly), though.
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Hey, be fair. It also lazily transposed 11th century European nations, given the not-Vikings.
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unseenlibrarian posted:Being fair, the metaplot stuff was almost all after Wick wasn't working on the line, but it was very...Wickian, in that there was a whole thing with "Almost every form of magic used by PCs is slowly destroying the world and letting in cthulhoid horrors.  .In other news, Fate More has less than 48 hours left, but sadly it doesn't look like it's going to hit the $60k mark. Still, it's unlocked goals to make the content of the Atomic Robo RPG and Venture City OGL, so it'll be interesting to see if other games start picking that stuff up.
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Flavivirus posted:7th Sea second edition is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...mpaign=audience So the book is 60 bones and the stretch goals will be paid addons? Bleh
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alg posted:So the book is 60 bones and the stretch goals will be paid addons? Doesn't look like it. It's $40 for the core book and New World supplement as PDFs, PDFs of all stretch goals, and PDFs of all the first edition books. The $60 gets you the core book only in print, but all the same PDFs as the $40 tier.
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Though the $40 for PDFs of everything in the KS and every 1st edition book isn't a terrible value.
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I did a quick back to get the quickstart because I want to see if the system is unbearably wicky
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Lemon Curdistan posted:You can certainly do a swashbuckling setting without lazily transposing 15-17th century European nations into your game with zero effort made to make them interesting (and zero effort to make sure you're spelling foreign words correctly), though. That's Wick for ya.
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Feb 9, 2016 16:39
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Flavivirus posted:7th Sea second edition is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...mpaign=audience Wick posted:In most roleplaying games, you start off as a 1st-level loser who’s terrified of the goblin with a broken knife. Most roleplaying games? Most?  I've backed I think two Wick projects and I can tell you two things - (1) you will get constant WickSpam, and (2) he's actually very professional, and there should be pretty much no problems with fulfillment. Both of those projects (Wicked Fantasy and that weird one where you're a magic item) shipped without any significant hiccups that I can remember.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Doesn't look like it. It's $40 for the core book and New World supplement as PDFs, PDFs of all stretch goals, and PDFs of all the first edition books. The $60 gets you the core book only in print, but all the same PDFs as the $40 tier. Yeah PDFs aren't much use to me. I'm not familiar with Wick so it's not much of a let down anyway.
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dwarf74 posted:Most roleplaying games? Most? Oh man, is he going to tell us all about how he's not including alignments next?
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I have to say, I'm almost tempted to back this at the $40 level for the 1e PDFs, even though I'm loathe to give Wick any money.  dwarf74 posted:Most roleplaying games? Most? Let's be fair, most people think that most roleplaying games are D&D. 
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What is it about Wick that everyone hates? I thought the original was fairly well liked overall. And I think the whole "gets stronger the more injured you are" thing is super fun and genre savy.
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unseenlibrarian posted:Oh man, is he going to tell us all about how he's not including alignments next?
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Hiro Protagonist posted:What is it about Wick that everyone hates? I thought the original was fairly well liked overall. And I think the whole "gets stronger the more injured you are" thing is super fun and genre savy. He's the platonic ideal of a condescending semi-literate douche GM.
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My god this is one the fastest kickstarters I've seen. 7th Sea looks cool despite the Wickisms.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:What is it about Wick that everyone hates? I thought the original was fairly well liked overall. And I think the whole "gets stronger the more injured you are" thing is super fun and genre savy. The problem is that he has this whole...persona he dubs "The Wick" that is a total "I'm telling the TRUTH and being REAL sorry you can't handle that" thing. He wrote two books of the douchiest, killer-DM-est, get-your-players-to-lynch-you confrontational GM bullshit with that tone. http://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-and-friends/alien-rope-burn/john-wicks-play-dirty/ http://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-and-friends/alien-rope-burn/john-wicks-play-dirty-2-even-dirtier/ e: there was also that whole "I can't believe people cared more about the premiere of Third Edition D&D than my game that released the same weekend" rant.
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My friend made a cute little card game https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/115666883/vampsylvania-a-card-and-dice-game-of-cute-cartoon It's fun has cute art with some funny ways to be a dick to your friends. For 7 bucks you can make your own deck or buy it for 20-25.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:What is it about Wick that everyone hates? I thought the original was fairly well liked overall. And I think the whole "gets stronger the more injured you are" thing is super fun and genre savy. You know. Like everything else in the 90's. e: But yeah, he has been a decent enough designer and, like I said before, he's more professional than most independent designers in the industry. He'll finish what he promises. dwarf74 fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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dwarf74 posted:e: But yeah, he has been a decent enough designer and, like I said before, he's more professional than most independent designers in the industry. He'll finish what he promises. Whether it's any good is another matter entirely: http://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-and-friends/tk31/the-aegis-project/
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I hope one of the stretch goals is a rerelease of the card game in LCG format.
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Mantic has posted the Walking Dead rules https://www.manticdigital.com/product/the-walking-dead-all-out-war-playtest-rules/
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If you're like me and enjoy Sentinels of the Multiverse, they just launched the KS for the final expansion. Add-ons include packs of all the hero variants and a specially designed case that will hold all the cards. They made $120k in about 45 minutes. 
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dwarf74 posted:Most roleplaying games? Most? The real issue, at least, it that the original 7th Sea chargen is full of trap options and is pretty badly balanced. So the exultation of "you're a hero!" needs to be more like "you're a hero!... as long as you know Panache owns bones and that the swordsman schools aren't worth the cost." Maybe the new edition fixes all that, but given Wick's general disdain for rigorous design, I wouldn't expect it. The setting is neat enough, tho, and $40 for everything is a sweetheart deal.
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Evil Mastermind posted:If you're like me and enjoy Sentinels of the Multiverse, they just launched the KS for the final expansion. Add-ons include packs of all the hero variants and a specially designed case that will hold all the cards. Can't wait to see the mass dump of every stretch goal they announced.
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Wick also plagiarized, and badly, huge chunks of encyclopedia text for the first (and second?) editions of Legend of the Five Rings.
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