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Talmonis posted:They are not protesters. This needs to be driven home. They are an armed force that broke into a Federal facility and threatened force on anyone who tried to remove them. Of course they're protestors. They're people who took public action to demonstrate their objection to a thing. That's a protest. It's a protest even if people are doing illegal stuff (see: Whiskey Rebellion, Boston Tea Party), or if we think the people protesting are huge, crazy assholes with a worthless cause (WBC)
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Abner Cadaver II posted:Fuckin Grant County man. Wait, is he trying to aggressively dissuade Ammon from calling him (since the FBI have his balls in a vice) or has he escaped from/forgotten about the vice and is complaining about a reporter's call?
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SubponticatePoster posted:I believe that's properly referred to as "a bag of cash" in most circles Confusion Level: SovCit 4 Components: V, M (hard currency) Range: Touch Target: One humanoid of lawful/neutral alignment Duration: 1 min/level + 5 min per $100,000 worth of gold Saving Throw: Will negates Spell Resistance: Yes
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The text reportedly said "need commissary credit for snacks"
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falcon2424 posted:Of course they're protestors. Timothy McVeigh, protester
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Feb 10, 2016 22:34
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The presiding judge should get a custom made US flag with like, half a foot of fringe on all sides.
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Feb 10, 2016 22:35
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Kilo147 posted:The presiding judge should get a custom made US flag with like, half a foot of fringe on all sides. Judge should get a flag that only has fringe on parts of it but they're hidden by the folds and occasionally he should touch the flag to expose the fringes. It would probably drive their SovCit brains bonkers.
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Rick_Hunter posted:Judge should get a flag that only has fringe on parts of it but they're hidden by the folds and occasionally he should touch the flag to expose the fringes. It would probably drive their SovCit brains bonkers. Have no fringe on the flag, but hold the trial on a ship.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:02
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Actually try them under admiralty law.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:05
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Or just get an actual navy flag. Like the red and white one with don't tread on me.
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Discendo Vox posted:Actually try them under admiralty law. 
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Discendo Vox posted:Actually try them under admiralty law. Sentence them to walking the plank.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:11
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I was thinking sentence them to <a quantity> of lashes with the cat o' nine tails, but that works too.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:14
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Seats, judges robe, bailiff's uniform, prosecution's suitcase all have gold fringes. Flags do not. All chairs are marked "joinder", "This court's authority" written across the ceiling. Model ships on all tables.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:16
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Just have a bottle full of rum and plate of hardtack on the judge's desk.
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Feb 10, 2016 23:17
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Confiscate their computers and electronic devices and search them. There's bound to be some form of pirated software or video somewhere. Charge them with piracy. I'm pretty sure the punishment for piracy in an admiralty court is death.
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OAquinas posted:Wait, is he trying to aggressively dissuade Ammon from calling him (since the FBI have his balls in a vice) or has he escaped from/forgotten about the vice and is complaining about a reporter's call? The latter. He's still openly supporting the Bundys and occupation iirc.
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GyroNinja posted:Sentence them to walking the plank. Look at this soft on crime democRAT. They should sentence him to Scaphism.
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StandardVC10 posted:I was thinking sentence them to <a quantity> of lashes with the cat o' nine tails, but that works too. "I hereby sentence you to six years in bed with the captain's daughter."
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falcon2424 posted:Adding on to this, the procedure for looking at past comments matters. No, that's not how any of this works, bail is not a right and it is up to the judge's judgement as long as he doesn't trip the 8th amendment. There is no bright line rule like you're making up here. These aren't magic words, if you could convince a judge that Morello's words did indicate a danger to the community then that judge would be absolutely right to deny bail. And for the love of god how many times does this have to be posted before people stop repeating the ACLU's bullshit: Discendo Vox posted:It'd be fine- if it were accurate. The judge was explicit that past, hyperbolic threats (the Clinton one particularly) weren't why Santilli was being held, but rather specific statements about how he would kill federal officers who approached his door, coupled with his direct involvement in the occupation. ACLU likes to play fast and loose with facts to make their argument. Discendo Vox posted:The ACLU are attacking his indictment. The basis of his bail denial wasn't the random earlier threats, but his explicit threats against federal employees during the Malheur events - the judge was very clear about that.
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GyroNinja posted:Sentence them to walking the plank. Only if it goes like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNaQS3vDQc4&t=30s
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An adjunct professor from George Mason U on the overview of the federal response to malheur: http://theconversation.com/the-federal-response-in-malheur-and-far-right-extremism-54222
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Intel&Sebastian posted:An adjunct professor from George Mason U on the overview of the federal response to malheur: People joke about Trump but if he or someone like him became president and decided "hey I want to round up the brown people and send them back to Mexico, I need your help" we'd have a Trumpstaffel full of far right assholes in no time.
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SocketWrench posted:I DO NOT CONSENT Lieutenant Cocker or whatever was still the best. He gave the guy plenty of patience and when that failed, he pulled the fuckin window out 
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Intel&Sebastian posted:An adjunct professor from George Mason U on the overview of the federal response to malheur: He does point out the very obvious problem that these kind of right wing lunatics are fed into by Republican candidates who have grown more and more extremist, but very little about what could possibly be done to help stem the growing tide.
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SocketWrench posted:Only if it goes like this Kelsey Grammer  Shame about his attempts to start conserva-comedy network.
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Thump! posted:Kelsey Grammer Never forget about this piece of garbage when shaming any of a plethora of Hollywood conservatives, including Kelsey Grammer.
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Talmonis posted:They are not protesters. This needs to be driven home. They are an armed force that broke into a Federal facility and threatened force on anyone who tried to remove them.
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Kro-Bar posted:Never forget about this piece of garbage when shaming any of a plethora of Hollywood conservatives, including Kelsey Grammer. Leslie... David Alan Grier... 
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Contrary to popular liberal belief, the possession of firearms does not really add any extra legal ramifications to the situation outside of the felons who were present. Liberal protesters should try to carry guns, it would probably help their causes in most situations. Not only is this a really dumb and dangerous opinion that everyone should laugh at, it's factually wrong: "(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both." 18 U.S.C. 930(b)
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NathanScottPhillips posted:Liberal protesters should try to carry guns, it would probably help their causes in most situations. How?
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I mean, to be fair, if BLM protesters started packing, I'm sure we'd see a lot more Republicans reaching across the aisle to pass gun control legislation. We'd probably have a lot of dead protesters though.
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Well for one thing being shot by cops will mean that their grievances will be accurately portrayed in the media? Or the media will make it a point to mention that the police force in the US is a bit too trigger happy? Oh I know, the police just won't strait up bomb them?
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A Winner is Jew posted:Well for one thing being shot by cops will mean that their grievances will be accurately portrayed in the media? All that it'll end up doing is making the cops mow them down for 'fear of their lives', and the media will portray them as scary gang members. If you want proof of that, check here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvW_zBvJlsA
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Geostomp posted:He does point out the very obvious problem that these kind of right wing lunatics are fed into by Republican candidates who have grown more and more extremist, but very little about what could possibly be done to help stem the growing tide. I'm not sure anything can be effective while the GOP keeps goosing them and the nation keeps doing poo poo that pisses them off. This whole thing and their current primaries should make it pretty clear that there's a large portion of our country that has a hate boner on and can't articulate why. They said "eh good enough" when a presidential candidate finally took the dog out of dogwhistle even though just about everything else about him is something they claim to hate. Someone over there needs to self police, and not just when they get calls from the FBI telling them they're close to catching a charge.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Well for one thing being shot by cops will mean that their grievances will be accurately portrayed in the media? Unless you Were No Angel.
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Ted Nugent called himself a war hero who fought in Fallujah in 04 on facebook today I guess....odd. Wrong thread but I think ill leave it anyway.
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back story: FBI is talking to the terorists via a bullhorn, instructing them to leave. yallquaida are brandishing guns. fbi sniper in firetower
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