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Syjefroi posted:Oh my god that old lady, she went from a fan to heartbroken in an instant. Yeah, Kasich essentially communicated "I don't care that you supported me and are disappointed now, get hosed!". It's sad. No loyalty or dedication at all. 
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Gonna quote myself to ask a follow-up question: It's projecting. Up until the New Deal, more or less, folks had to work until they died, and it sucked. Even though things got better, there was still a new bar that was set for how much you had to work. So with each new generation, there's this idea of "well drat, I had to work really hard, it's not fair that you don't have to work as hard, my brain doesn't have the emotional intelligence to allow myself to experience pain so I will instead try to make this other person feel it for me." And the reason why we don't have that emotional intelligence in America is because of a history of "go out and make your own success" that most other countries don't, and that creates so many folk heroes and success stories and then we get into this issue of people wanting it, shaming others, oh and then combine that with our habit of not taking care of our mental health, etc etc. So a guy like that who thinks young people should have to go through what he went through, dude is just experiencing a lot of pain from his life and literally his brain isn't wired to accept that, so it's easier to be outspoken about free college, because it also makes it easier to blend in with the rest of society (or the micro-society he lives in, his neighborhood, etc) that says that only hippie socialists want free college. Your Dunkle Sans posted:Yeah, Kasich essentially communicated "I don't care that you supported me and are disappointed now, get hosed!". It's hilarious that Kasich is the 2016 "he's the least worst of the bunch!" guy for Democrats. I don't even see how that's a statement worth making. When you have a dozen rotten apples, you don't bother pointing to the one with a little patch of red on it and say "hey, this one still has some amount of edible flesh on it!", you throw them all the gently caress out.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Gonna quote myself to ask a follow-up question:
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Zombie Samurai posted:Explain how operating an illegal super PAC is equivalent to a democratically-elected public official attempting to legislate. I don't acknowledge or respect someone (or voters) attempting to keep people from hitching a ride in order to protect an industry. Some industries go extinct sometimes and that's how it works. That the riders happen to use their phones to set it all up is incidental to me. It's glorified hitchhiking with tipping. Ask them to pay the taxes everyone else does, sure. Prohibit it, good luck enforcing it and get hosed. tl;dr Uber is good at loving over fuckers, do what you're good at. DeusExMachinima fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 02:45
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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the moose posted:Pragmatism does not matter when the goal of work is to work. The ultimate sin to a lot of older people I've talked to is not working, even if you don't have to. Like even your hobbies should be productive and require hard work. Its very strange. Oh also, being a workaholic is a defense mechanism, an avoidant technique to repress a foundational emotional pain. Older people had no choice but to work, and even though we consider them heroes or whatever, they loving hated it and took out their anger on everyone else, so the next oldest generation was hardwired to both work and to correlate hard work with having an identity. Work hard = American Hero. So when you suggest to someone like that that maybe you don't have to work so much to be happy, you're actually puncturing their identity, and that's a much more terrible pain to deal with.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Loretta Lynch has apparently had enough of Missouri's poo poo. well they hosed now. good job dipshits, you had an out and you didnt take it. Tobermory posted:In other Cleveland news, white people continue to be horrible: wait, are they seriously charging the family money for their time waiting around while the kid bled out?. jesus. Samurai Sanders posted:what possessed the Ferguson police department to look at Lynch, look at the political situation right now, and think she was bluffing? Because the feds dont sue unless they are sure they can win. so they dont act on it often. usualy the mere mention of the feds bring the hammer down would get people inline. they honestly probably did think it was a bluff. RevKrule posted:The town is too poor to implement the changes but not poor enough to withstand a lawsuit from the federal loving government. Yup, that seems to track. the fed is going to use this as an example for small poo poo towns to clean up their act.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:
And then sued them for it. America!
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RevKrule posted:The town is too poor to implement the changes but not poor enough to withstand a lawsuit from the federal loving government. Yup, that seems to track. Although, it's hard to make the case that the town is too poor considering how many tickets they handed out to black citizens, as documented in the DoJ report last year. This is really just Yonkers all over again.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Because the feds dont sue unless they are sure they can win. so they dont act on it often. usualy the mere mention of the feds bring the hammer down would get people inline. they honestly probably did think it was a bluff.
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DeusExMachinima posted:I don't acknowledge or respect someone (or voters) attempting to keep people from hitching a ride in order to protect an industry. Some industries go extinct sometimes and that's how it works. That the riders happen to use their phones to set it all up is incidental to me. It's glorified hitchhiking with tipping. Ask them to pay the taxes everyone else does, sure. Prohibit it, good luck enforcing it and get hosed. TLDR. Its fine when my side is evil.
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Feb 11, 2016 03:22
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Red Suit posted:I'm mad about superdelegates Welcome to the Party for Socialism and Liberation.
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Fun little tool to play with the President's Proposed Budget: https://budget2017.whitehouse.gov/#!/year/2017/operating/0/agency_name
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the moose posted:Pragmatism does not matter when the goal of work is to work. The ultimate sin to a lot of older people I've talked to is not working, even if you don't have to. Like even your hobbies should be productive and require hard work. Its very strange. Yeah, it's pretty distressing of how foundational and rockbed these beliefs are. It really underlies everything else and can't really be (easily) broken through, it's practically woven into the American cultural DNA. Unfortunately, I see it as a huge avenue that politically active companies/1-percenters can exploit and space to wedge in to continue to destroy worker protections/the welfare state/benefits since the general belief of "work yourself out of poverty"/"BOOTSTRAPS!" is so strong and so pervasive.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlrSain0lk Posted elsewhere but behold: the real-time thinking of the remaining militia in Oregon.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Most tech companies we take for granted post losses more often than not. Eventually Uber and Lyft will come to equilibrium either way. Some locations they may not be profitable in and decide to cut out of eventually. They'll stay in areas in which they are profitable. Smaller companies like them with lower operating costs will take their place in those areas and that's great because competition is the greatest, despite what taxi unions might think. Don't get me wrong, I loving hate the gig economy, but Uber seems like it's impossible to be not profitable. Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Feb 11, 2016 04:26
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Hard to make money constantly fighting back regulations in typical libertarian fashion of pants making GBS threads.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Why do Americans seem to throw efficiency/pragmatism under the bus with public policy in place of "working hard for the sake of working hard"? It's probably a rhetorical question at this point, but is there a similar sentiment outside of America of punishing ourselves and others who don't seem to meet an arbitrary bar of what it means to have hard work ethic and stripping benefits for those deemed to have not paid their dues to society? No why. Seriously, you can write books on how we got here, but American work culture is fundamentally illogical and self-defeating. People buy into it because it's what their parents taught them and because it's what society rewards (although not in any monetary sense, for the most part). There's no way to confront this attitude in a reasonable way because it's not actually grounded in reality.
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Paradoxish posted:No why. Toughness and grit and perseverance and Rocky and
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Everblight posted:I struggle to understand how Uber can lose money, at all. They have zero risk, zero assets and need to pay a few coders to make an app that sends push notifications and mapping software. I understand good coders are expensive, but they aren't $700m expensive, and it's not like Uber needs to maintain a fleet of vehicles or pay the vast majority of their The prices they charge are too low. They have been operating on investor-storytime funds for ages and thats not a sustainable way to run a business (its sure as hell a sustainable way to retire rich though)
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Everblight posted:I struggle to understand how Uber can lose money, at all. They have zero risk, zero assets and need to pay a few coders to make an app that sends push notifications and mapping software. I understand good coders are expensive, but they aren't $700m expensive, and it's not like Uber needs to maintain a fleet of vehicles or pay the vast majority of their I think at some point the poo poo is going to hit the fan and either the drivers are going to realize that it is ultimately a losing bargain or their vehicles will begin to break down, or some heinous poo poo will happen and government is going to step in. I do like Uber and Lyft, but I would be perfectly be willing to pay more for the convenience of the services it provides, but I think a lot of the people who currently use it, would not.
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Crowsbeak posted:TLDR. Its fine when my side is evil. If it's a valid criticism of Uber, it's a valid criticism of anyone nominally defending a (rapidly crumbling) state of regulatory capture by taxis. The difference is the latter sinner is a) worse and b) started it. Fortunately, after Uber and Lyft are done crushing whiny bitches who spent six or seven figures on taxi medallions, the rideshare PACs won't be necessary any longer. A big flaming stink posted:The prices they charge are too low. They're still relatively young and still have to dedicate a disproportionate amount of funds to making sure it's legal for people to commit the revolting crime of share their cars with each other if they so wish. Over time as they win legal battles and have to dedicate fewer resources to lawyers or as they pull out of less profitable areas long-term, you'll see a better picture of their future, succeed or fail.
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Everblight posted:I struggle to understand how Uber can lose money, at all. They have zero risk, zero assets and need to pay a few coders to make an app that sends push notifications and mapping software. I understand good coders are expensive, but they aren't $700m expensive, and it's not like Uber needs to maintain a fleet of vehicles or pay the vast majority of their The way you do it is you charge $1 and pay the drivers $2. And then you have 10 million drivers and 70 rides from each of them in three months (made up numbers).
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Everblight posted:I struggle to understand how Uber can lose money, at all. They have zero risk, zero assets and need to pay a few coders to make an app that sends push notifications and mapping software. I understand good coders are expensive, but they aren't $700m expensive, and it's not like Uber needs to maintain a fleet of vehicles or pay the vast majority of their
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Not as big of news as the Ferguson news, but in other Missouri news the UM board of curators have determined that graduate instructors are not employees (despite the fact that we all have to fill out W-2s like employees, are considered mandatory reports like employees of a public institution, and had the uni threaten to take away our health insurance subsidy because the federal government considers us employees) so they have no constitutional right to organization. The Missouri NEA is almost certainly going to file suit. So if labor disputes interest you keep an eye on that I guess.
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They're trying to talk down the remaining idiots up in Oregon. Michele Fiore (state rep from loving Nevada) decided she's the only one who can play negotiator (or more likely, she's looking to raise her profile for larger office) so she's injected herself into the poo poo sandwich. You can listen live. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlrSain0lk
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Yeah, it's pretty distressing of how foundational and rockbed these beliefs are. It really underlies everything else and can't really be (easily) broken through, it's practically woven into the American cultural DNA. Oligarchies construct ideologies to justify their continued existence comrade
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alpha_destroy posted:Not as big of news as the Ferguson news, but in other Missouri news the UM board of curators have determined that graduate instructors are not employees (despite the fact that we all have to fill out W-2s like employees, are considered mandatory reports like employees of a public institution, and had the uni threaten to take away our health insurance subsidy because the federal government considers us employees) so they have no constitutional right to organization. The Missouri NEA is almost certainly going to file suit. So if labor disputes interest you keep an eye on that I guess. Does that mean you don't pay taxes? Or are you a poo poo contractor?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Does that mean you don't pay taxes? Or are you a poo poo contractor? It is amazing but it appears that the definition of employee magically shifts around so I am only an employee when it benefits my overlords. Amazing how that works. Edit: Some people are tempted to make a public display of shredding (dummy) W2's though because of this.
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Seriously could you make an uproar through that channel to gain public eye?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Does that mean you don't pay taxes? Or are you a poo poo contractor? lol It gets better — certain classes of fellowship income are considered taxable income, but not earned income. That makes me ineligible to contribute to tax-sheltered retirement accounts at age 30. Yay!
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DeusExMachinima posted:If it's a valid criticism of Uber, it's a valid criticism of anyone nominally defending a (rapidly crumbling) state of regulatory capture by taxis. quote:The difference is the latter sinner is a) worse and b) started it. quote:Fortunately, after Uber and Lyft are done crushing whiny bitches who spent six or seven figures on taxi medallions, quote:the rideshare PACs won't be necessary any longer. quote:They're still relatively young and still have to dedicate a disproportionate amount of funds to making sure it's legal for people to commit the revolting crime of share their cars with each other if they so wish. quote:Over time as they win legal battles and have to dedicate fewer resources to lawyers or as they pull out of less profitable areas long-term, you'll see a better picture of their future, succeed or fail.
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RevKrule posted:They're trying to talk down the remaining idiots up in Oregon. Michele Fiore (state rep from loving Nevada) decided she's the only one who can play negotiator (or more likely, she's looking to raise her profile for larger office) so she's injected herself into the poo poo sandwich. You can listen live. Cliven Bundy is heading out there. Doesn't he still have active warrants for his arrest?
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Democrats may get an easy pickup in the Senate in a seat that seemed otherwise secure. http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article59529686.html quote:Sen. Roy Blunt’s claims about his Vietnam-era draft record emerged Wednesday as an issue in his re-election campaign against Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat.
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RevKrule posted:They're trying to talk down the remaining idiots up in Oregon. Michele Fiore (state rep from loving Nevada) decided she's the only one who can play negotiator (or more likely, she's looking to raise her profile for larger office) so she's injected herself into the poo poo sandwich. You can listen live. I like her promise she won't let them die there and she's 3 hours away by car. Way to gamble 4 lives for an election stunt Also their list of grievances is still like listening to a Freep thread being read aloud
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RevKrule posted:Democrats may get an easy pickup in the Senate in a seat that seemed otherwise secure. Missouri is such a weird place in 2016. poo poo, remember that guy that killed himself last year because perceived antisemitism? Missouri is a weird place in the 2010's.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Gonna quote myself to ask a follow-up question: puritans were jerks e: google "puritan work ethic". to be clear, these were folks that had the slogan "God put you on this earth as a work horse, not a play horse." and those humorless fun bashing assholes had a big impact on the American psyche, unfortunately enough. Tiler Kiwi fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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Tiler Kiwi posted:puritans were jerks Yep, this one is Plymouth's fault. You can blame Jamestown for slavery. Between the two it pretty much explains all our lingering social ills.
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