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Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

And on this date in 1937 the Flint Sit-Down Strike ended in a victory for the union.

Here, have a comic.

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WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

:wow:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/695384762249162753?ref_src=twsrc

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
huge, if true

quote:

Ali Shamkhani, chief of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, claimed today that U.S. Republican officials reached out to Tehran asking that the recent release of four American prisoners be delayed until after the upcoming presidential election. There are very good reasons to be skeptical of Shamkhani’s claim. If it is true, it is completely insane.

“In the course of the talks for exchanging prisoners, the Republican rivals of the current US administration who claim to be humanitarians and advocates of human rights sent a message telling us not to release these people (American prisoners) and continue this process (of talks) until the eve of US presidential elections...However, we acted upon our independent resolve and moved the process forward.” Shamkhani said at a rally yesterday, according to the Tasnim News Agency, a firmly pro-regime organization.

The implication is that these mystery Republicans wanted their own party to receive credit for freeing the Americans, and that they were willing to let their countrymen sit in an overseas jail for 11 more months to get it.

But the idea of GOP lawmakers reaching out directly to Iran to strike a backchannel deal seems pretty dubious. For one, they would have to contend with the likelihood that communications with such a volatile actor would be surveilled by the U.S. Intelligence Community. For another, the GOP party line advocates for all-out war against the country. What Republican in his right mind would think he had influence there?

Considering Shamkhani’s emphasis on Iran’s “independent resolve” to pursue the prisoner swap on-schedule, it’s possible he wanted to have his cake and eat it too: Iran gets back six Iranian-American prisoners by engaging the U.S. diplomatically, but manages to look like it’s resisting U.S. influence while doing it.

All in all, it seems pretty unlikely that Shamkhani’s claims are true. But it certainly wouldn’t be the first time American Republicans made a secret deal with Iran! So who knows.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006


Reaganesque....

JosefStalinator
Oct 9, 2007

Come Tbilisi if you want to live.




Grimey Drawer

Congrats Cruz on winning SC!

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
On the one hand, I'm skeptical. On the other, we live in insane times, and have been doing so ever since the Reagan administration.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Obama did what amounts to a eulogy/retrospective for his political career and his presidency for the Illinois General Assembly yesterday.

It's very well-written, and interesting in that Obama remains publicly committed to bipartisanship even as he makes clear that he plans to devote himself to "fixing politics" as a private citizen.

Raerlynn
Oct 28, 2007

Sorry I'm late, I'm afraid I got lost on the path of life.

DACK FAYDEN posted:

On the one hand, I'm skeptical. On the other, we live in insane times, and have been doing so ever since the Reagan administration.

I feel like this happened before.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007


Either they're telling the insane truth or they're trolling excellently

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011




I'm surprised more countries who aren't fans of the US haven't used Congressional gridlock to pull more of these little PR stunts.

There's virtually no chance this is true (a top Iranian official says something crazy and bombastic about the US at a rally and it's eagerly repeated by state media, don't be stupid) but its plausibility is extremely disturbing.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

My heart and my best intentions still tell me this is true, but the facts and evidence make me think 'Holy loving poo poo no way we live in a universe that god drat bizarre! Right? RIGHT!?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Either they're telling the insane truth or they're trolling excellently

Yeah fake or not, they're still gonna have to talk about it.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

zoux posted:

Yeah fake or not, they're still gonna have to talk about it.
If he really wanted to throw a political monkeywrench into the election he'd name names, that poo poo is illegal.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Combed Thunderclap posted:

Obama did what amounts to a eulogy/retrospective for his political career and his presidency for the Illinois General Assembly yesterday.

It's very well-written, and interesting in that Obama remains publicly committed to bipartisanship even as he makes clear that he plans to devote himself to "fixing politics" as a private citizen.

I want to know how Obama pronounces GIF

Ceiling fan
Dec 26, 2003

I really like ceilings.
Dead Man’s Band

DACK FAYDEN posted:

On the one hand, I'm skeptical. On the other, we live in insane times, and have been doing so ever since the Reagan administration.

Yep. It's good trolling. With Regan and Romney's Bengazi press conference establishing a track record, you don't dismiss it out of hand even though it's coming from the intelligence chief of a totalitarian regime.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

Saturday's debate is going to be a loving bloodbath

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Scrub-Niggurath posted:

I want to know how Obama pronounces GIF

This is super loving important and I am so on it (spoilers: it's the right way :smuggo:)

EDIT: For those of you who want to see the real deal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YyZkLyxMds&t=250s

God Obama is so cool, I really am going to miss him.

Oracle posted:

If he really wanted to throw a political monkeywrench into the election he'd name names, that poo poo is illegal.

Yeah, it's literally treason, forget it, let's not even pretend it's plausible.

I'm talking about four Congresspeople working together and keeping a secret, of course.

Combed Thunderclap fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 11, 2016

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
They did this once already by telling them not to agree to obama's nuclear deal.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!

If there is a god in heaven, please let them dump the proof of this out there and let this all come to light

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Fried Chicken posted:

If there is a god in heaven, please let them dump the proof of this out there and let this all come to light

You know nothing that good could ever possibly happen.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Combed Thunderclap posted:

Yeah, it's literally treason, forget it, let's not even pretend it's plausible.

Actually, it isn't literally treason.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Tune into the Oregon standoff now.

3 of the 4 have surrendered, the last is super worked up, says he is suicidal, and some sovcit lawyer is winding him up even more

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
I'm sure if it did happen, and it probably did, that the list of Repubs involved would include those who are vocally anti-Iran, making this even better.

Too bad we'll never get proof.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

DACK FAYDEN posted:

On the one hand, I'm skeptical. On the other, we live in insane times, and have been doing so ever since the Reagan administration.

Nixon did something similar with the South Vietnamese too.

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Nixon did something similar with the South Vietnamese too.
Yeah, but Reagan seemed a more topical reference.

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Fried Chicken posted:

Oligarchies construct ideologies to justify their continued existence comrade

I agree, let's smash the capitalist state together, comrade. :ussr:

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

zoux posted:

We're going to have to figure out what to do about the millions of jobs that selfdriving cars would obviate, which also goes towards the earlier conversation about how our work culture requires everyone to have full time employment. Eventually we're just going to have to admit that we don't have enough jobs to justify total full time employment and go to a 20 hour workweek or something.

Socialism, just add more socialism the more technology removes jobs to make up for it and keep the economy going. Just keep doing that and eventually it's socialism all the way down.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Trabisnikof posted:

Actually, it isn't literally treason.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

"Aid and comfort to our enemies" seems broad enough to work, but I'm sure a distinct set of precedents has developed so it's much more narrow. Either way I don't really care that much about adjudicating an imaginary situation to argue it out.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

His Divine Shadow posted:

Socialism, just add more socialism the more technology removes jobs to make up for it and keep the economy going. Just keep doing that and eventually it's socialism all the way down.

Oh I know how to fix it, I mean how to plausibly fix it in America.



*shakes skeleton by the shoulders* my man have you tried tax cuts for the rich



Arthur Laffer: Radical! Innovative!

zoux fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 11, 2016

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

"You can't fire me! I QUIT!" :argh:

zoux posted:

Here's Marco Rubio doing his best to combat the Robio meme.


"Beep boop, Marcobot 9000 calculating success ratio... Scanning... Bzzt! Inefficiency detected! Downloading political firmware update, version 1.376..."

:mitt:

Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Feb 11, 2016

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/697855816720850944

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
America couldn't get caught in the Webb!


Yeah I dunno, wish he'd been in longer to make a stronger anti-hawk case. But his time was 2007

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
Despite the best efforts of some sovcit-tea party types to gently caress this up, the last Oregon occupier has surrendered peacefully

Old James
Nov 20, 2003

Wait a sec. I don't know an Old James!

Oracle posted:

If he really wanted to throw a political monkeywrench into the election he'd name names, that poo poo is illegal.

Mystery Goomba
Jun 4, 2011

Fried Chicken posted:

Despite the best efforts of some sovcit-tea party types to gently caress this up, the last Oregon occupier has surrendered peacefully

So what happens to the dildos? Do they become property of the federal government and auctioned off?

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Mystery Goomba posted:

So what happens to the dildos? Do they become property of the federal government and auctioned off?

Kept as evidence!

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Mystery Goomba posted:

So what happens to the dildos? Do they become property of the federal government and auctioned off?

No they will probably just be jailed for a few weeks while they await trial


dohohoho

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Gravel Gravy posted:

No they will probably just be jailed for a few weeks while they await trial


dohohoho

Ok, lol.

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blackmongoose
Mar 31, 2011

DARK INFERNO ROOK!

Gravel Gravy posted:

No they will probably just be jailed for a few weeks while they await trial


dohohoho

This is meant as a joke, but given how civil forfeiture works it might actually be accurate!

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