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Majorian posted:Fair point, although I'm going to rescind that if it turns out this makes her the next Palin. Her entire goal here is pretty obviously to be the next Palin.
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Murderion posted:I spent all my money paying bodyguards to protect me from you, your honor Really this. Out of everyone Fry seems to have been drawn to this because he desperately wanted to belong to something because he has legitimate mental issues and was ostracized throughout his life for it. Of everyone I really hope he gets the least amount of jail time and the most amount of professional therapy, and the only hope that that might come true is how batshit his ranting has been throughout this whole thing. Majorian posted:Fair point, although I'm going to rescind that if it turns out this makes her the next Palin. By the polyester of the holy tarp, I completely agree.
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I found it strange that one of David Fry's examples of the "abuse" he had received was two dudes had told him he looked like a Ron Paul voter, and he'd told them that he was. They responded, "Yeah, well we voted for Obama." So, another person merely expressing to him that they have a different opinion to him verbally was so traumatizing that he needed to get if off of his chest while he considered suicide in a tent surrounded by FBI agents. I guess it's a small thing in a sea of other crazy poo poo, but I just found it jarring.
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Evil Fluffy posted:It doesn't matter how much you dare to dream, even if the government goes full RICO they will not consider going after the Koch family. You could have video evidence of them forming 501c orgs for the explicit purpose of rallying militias to the Bundy ranch for a violent confrontation with the Feds and the Koch brothers would still beat the charges or get a slap on the wrist. One of the most powerful families on the planet isn't going to go down for funding groups to push for policies to further enrich said family. Well, no, I'm not dreaming of that happening. What I'm dreaming of is exposing their money-tentacle backbone. Proof that the seditionists and, I don't know, their anti-climate-change funding come from the same place.
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After all the broadcasts my opinion of these guys has shifted from 'armed dangerous radical fringe elements' to 'armed dangerous bumblefucks'.
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idk telling someone "you look like a Ron Paul supporter" is p rude How crazy do you have to be to be a legal defence? I think the hours of screaming about Obama chemically mutating people could swing it for him.
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SynthOrange posted:After all the broadcasts my opinion of these guys has shifted from 'armed dangerous radical fringe elements' to 'armed dangerous bumblefucks'. That's probably even more dangerous though.
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Shalebridge Cradle posted:That's probably even more dangerous though. So we're back to Kylo Ren comparisons.
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Mr. Belding posted:I found it strange that one of David Fry's examples of the "abuse" he had received was two dudes had told him he looked like a Ron Paul voter, and he'd told them that he was. They responded, "Yeah, well we voted for Obama." https://twitter.com/JohnLGC/status/697854622262669312
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Polybius91 posted:I missed the bagpipes, please tell me I can still listen to them somewhere The bagpipes start in at around 1:53:35, but go back maybe another minute or so to get some context of what's going on.
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Things I am not ready to believe: Michelle Fiore is anything other than a self-aggrandizing scumbag who happened by accident to be temporarily useful to the FBI, and David Fry is mentally ill enough to avoid criminal responsibility, as opposed to just an unhinged shithead.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Things I am not ready to believe: Insanity plea is really hard, it means you don't know the difference between right and wrong. Not disagreeing about whether or not something in particular is right or wrong, but whether you can understand that, say, shooting a random person would be wrong.
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Can they bring up his state of mind during sentencing to try for the minimum, assuming he doesn't get the insanity plea?
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buttcoinbrony posted:Can they bring up his state of mind during sentencing to try for the minimum, assuming he doesn't get the insanity plea? His sentencing can include treatment, I'm pretty sure, and any probation or parole can have it as a condition, too. Edit: I should really stop talking 'cuz actually I know poo poo about the federal system, take what I said with a big grain of salt.
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Majorian posted:Amazing. I thought you were going to tell me to gently caress off and take the laughs where I can get it (and you would have been perfectly justified), and instead you made it even better. Well done. tbh, I'm kinda having fun with it now. Also I legit feel bad for him -- everyone else is in their 40s and being an aggressive fuckup, but he's a mentally ill idiot 27-year-old who got in with a bad crowd. Not to say that he's not old enough to face consequences for his actions, or that he didn't completely earn whatever jail time he sees, but it's kind of sad to think about how he pretty much threw the rest of his life away because someone, somewhere, was finally nice to him (and now that guy's dead because that guy was also a violent nutjob). I know that you've been scared before They've brought you in and they've locked the door But son, you'll see one day that it was done to save ya Now your father's shamed in the camera's lens And all you'll be is another trend You fought hard but all you got was Hallelujah
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Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should.
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Horking Delight posted:tbh, I'm kinda having fun with it now. Also I legit feel bad for him -- everyone else is in their 40s and being an aggressive fuckup, but he's a mentally ill idiot 27-year-old who got in with a bad crowd. Not to say that he's not old enough to face consequences for his actions, or that he didn't completely earn whatever jail time he sees, but it's kind of sad to think about how he pretty much threw the rest of his life away because someone, somewhere, was finally nice to him (and now that guy's dead because that guy was also a violent nutjob). He should hang out with that nice boy Mark. That's a kid with a good head on his shoulders.
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I swear there is some weird poo poo going on I'm constantly doubleposting. Clearing cache etc.
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L-Boned posted:Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should. Most of us don't actually think that the country is headed towards any sort of dictatorship (Trump/Cruz notwithstanding) and, if this incident has taught us anything, a bunch of untrained jackasses are no match for the most powerful military on Earth. Trying to decide who should or should not own weapons leads to many, many potential abuses that almost never manage to get sorted out legally. More importantly, the perpetual series of mass shootings that have received no response whatsoever has gotten us very disillusioned with firearms as freedom in general.
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L-Boned posted:Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should. Lmao. Yeah the United States federal government is super terrified of your tacticool AR and it's literally the only thing stopping us from a dictatorship.
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L-Boned posted:Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should. I am sure that small arms would protect you from BBBBBRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT if that comes. US soldiers would more likely side with the citizens they weren't armed.
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Stultus Maximus posted:So we're back to Kylo Ren comparisons. They are so apt though L-Boned posted:Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should. lol not falling for this easy poo poo. Up your game
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L-Boned posted:Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should. A list of first-world countries where this scenario has happened would include well known nations such as
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AlphaDog posted:A list of first-world countries where this scenario has happened would include well known nations such as Australia, where we are all now ruled by a brutal and megalomaniacal brush tail possum
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kangaroos arent stupid, they know their takeover plan wont work if the citizenry is armed but if they can challenge humans to fisticuffs...
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oohhboy posted:I am sure that small arms would protect you from BBBBBRRRRRRRRRTTTTTT if that comes. US soldiers would more likely side with the citizens they weren't armed. AlphaDog posted:A list of first-world countries where this scenario has happened would include well known nations such as
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Murderion posted:I hope Fry's video archives see as much use for his insanity defense as they do sending the other fuckers down. Based on his history of mental illness and actions at the refuge, it might actually be legit. The insanity defense standard is much too high for Fry to ever meet it. He would basically need to have spent the entire time thinking what he did was entirely legal, correct, and moral, and any one of his videos or statements would counter that instantly. It could be a sentencing consideration, but definitely not a defense.
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We already fought a war against emus and lost.
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SynthOrange posted:We already fought a war against emus and lost. Which would not have happened if the emus were first disarmed by the tyrannical government 
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L-Boned posted:Crazy rednecks or not, I am surprised how many of you think giving up private weapons to the government. That is like numero uno of how democracies transition to dictatorships. We should be more focused on going after people who shouldn't be allowed to own weapons instead of those who should. Well, the thing is when your world is bigger than anecdote your stupid uncle told you then you can have a more nuanced view of things. If you know that the Garda in Ireland doesn't carry firearms because the population also doesn't carry firearms, then you can say "well, this can exist without there being a dictatorship." But still guns going away when you had them is scary. So you could look at Australia where private ownership of firearms largely vanished in response to a mass shooting and this happened within the lifetime of virtually every poster in this thread. But yes, I'm sure you heard somewhere about Hitler confiscating firearms. The thing is. If your only data point is a stupid anecdote then the only things you can possibly say about that subject would stupid. Like what you just said. If you had a sense of history you could still be worried and bring up potential downsides, but you couldn't be as shrill or ignorant. Of course you wouldn't get to have a silly knee jerk reaction anymore. You'd have to consider lots of things instead of just one little thing. That would probably be hard.
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We're not even 24 hours out from this ending and we got trolls.
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Mark should just roll around the office tomorrow with a tape recorder that plays the Hallelujah chorus whenever he walks into a room.
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Queen Pickles makes us wait on her hand and claw, and bites us when we fail to obey.       if we have gun this never happen
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Trig Discipline posted:Queen Pickles makes us wait on her hand and claw, and bites us when we fail to obey. Hahaha. Wrong thread but leave it here. Better than "no gun = hitler".
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Trig Discipline posted:Queen Pickles makes us wait on her hand and claw, and bites us when we fail to obey. this should have been the last post and thread locked
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Crain posted:Hahaha. If we take away the gross (marsupial?) squirrelfats then only criminals will have gross squirrelfats. Seriously I don't know what that thing is, but I'm comforted that it's clearly herbivorous.
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