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Fiend posted:No Peg. 
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Fiend posted:First Ted. http://i.imgur.com/hJ7SCG9.gifv
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Feb 12, 2016 15:07
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I think now would be a good time for a prayer and song.
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I'm not a biblesperg can someone tell me why psalms is worthy of ire
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Feb 12, 2016 15:20
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Rock Daddy posted:The best thing about this event... I can't imagine any booby traps would be expertly made by the honorary marine masterminds, maybe a bucket of water over a door frame and I doubt they could pull that off.
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Feb 12, 2016 15:22
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm not a biblesperg can someone tell me why psalms is worthy of ire It's the Dane Cook of bible books. True bible fans read Acts.
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Alan Smithee posted:I'm not a biblesperg can someone tell me why psalms is worthy of ire The reason it's being mocked in this thread is just because Gavin Seim was desperately begging people to read psalms with him on the live stream of the standoff between the four holdouts and the fbi. Every time there was a lull in the action he would ask if anyone wanted to read psalms and they all basically ignored him. Literally, nobody even said "no, we'll pass on the psalms Gavin," they just changed the subject or let the awkward silence stand. The Psalms are mostly boring poetry attributed to the possibly fictional king of an insular polygamist religion. It's like the ramblings of one of those crazy mormons who lives on a compound. Weird poo poo about god and semen and the like.
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Feb 12, 2016 15:55
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Ninkobei posted:fools, Cliven has the feds right where he wants them. putting him in prison will only give him access to the world's most deadliest army: hard convicted criminals. once he has a chance to show them the constitution ... TBH, these guys ate probably going to end up in a Supermax prison. They'll be lucky to have any contact with anyone outside a prison guard or administration ever again.
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Feb 12, 2016 17:13
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Young Freud posted:TBH, these guys ate probably going to end up in a Supermax prison. They'll be lucky to have any contact with anyone outside a prison guard or administration ever again. Supermax prisons tend to be run by the fed's instead of private companies right?
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yep and it's where the terrorists disappear to you don't wanna go to Supermax
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VikingSkull posted:yep and it's where the terrorists disappear to I think I would rather go to a supermax than a typical state prison because I'm likely to be treated better.
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cheesetriangles posted:I think I would rather go to a supermax than a typical state prison because I'm likely to be treated better. it's a different kind of nightmare sure, you might not get shanked, but enjoy that 23 hours of solitude a day with nothing but books to read
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cheesetriangles posted:I think I would rather go to a supermax than a typical state prison because I'm likely to be treated better. Supermax is just a short step up from solitary confinement. You have a TV that plays religious programming, a shitter and a bed, and escorted to showers and yard exercise but you're under constant observation and isolation from other prisoners. The whole deal is that you're either too violent to be in gen pop or a risk to coordinate and educate other prisoners.
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Now I understand what Fry meant by the Government should stop mutating people.
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VikingSkull posted:it's a different kind of nightmare I really like books.
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VikingSkull posted:it's a different kind of nightmare If you could play video games in a supermax it wouldn't be much different than the basement most goons live in.
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I dunno. They obviously should be punished for what they did and should serve a bunch of time but these bumbling idiots are not what I think of when I think of a supermax prison. It just seems like a waste of space. I feel like these guys are dumb and misguided. But I just can't feel like they're "evil". The Bundys? Sure. They did a lot of horrible poo poo and added fuel to the fire. They're the real bad guys in all of this. These last four could probably learn a lot spending a good amount of time in gen. pop. and having to deal with the people they fear most. Fry's just nuts. He needs some deep mental help. I suppose in the end the charges and sentences decide where they end up but no one's going to break them out, they're not smart enough to escape, and, for all their rhetoric they don't even seem that dangerous. Hell, 41 days 'camping out' broke them down a good bit ('cept Fry who was already broken) and that was probably pretty cushy compared to where they'll end up.
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VikingSkull posted:it's a different kind of nightmare Something tells me the books are gonna be a worse punishment than the solitary confinement for these guys
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Well one good thing has come out of this, none of these assholes will be legally allowed to carry a gun anymore.
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Mad Monk posted:Well one good thing has come out of this, none of these assholes will be legally allowed to carry a gun anymore. I am sure that will stop em
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Mad Monk posted:Well one good thing has come out of this, none of these assholes will be legally allowed to carry a gun anymore. Lots of them weren't legally allowed to carry but they still were anyway. If anything, this just shows how easy it is for felons to get weapons.
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Feb 12, 2016 18:03
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The Ape of Naples posted:I dunno. They obviously should be punished for what they did and should serve a bunch of time but these bumbling idiots are not what I think of when I think of a supermax prison. It just seems like a waste of space. I feel like these guys are dumb and misguided. But I just can't feel like they're "evil". The Bundys? Sure. They did a lot of horrible poo poo and added fuel to the fire. They're the real bad guys in all of this. These last four could probably learn a lot spending a good amount of time in gen. pop. and having to deal with the people they fear most. Fry's just nuts. He needs some deep mental help. Of the last four, two are likely going to get some sort of probation and fines with maybe a small jail sentence. The guy that had a felony warrant is going to prison for an extended stay. It won't be at supermax. David Fry will go to a gentler correctional facility where he can receive adequate medical care because that boy ain't right. The bundys and other leaders are proper hosed and will spend time in federal prison. I doubt they end up in supermax, but they'll probably receive more than just the conspiracy charges currently levied at them.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Of the last four, two are likely going to get some sort of probation and fines with maybe a small jail sentence. The guy that had a felony warrant is going to prison for an extended stay. It won't be at supermax. David Fry will go to a gentler correctional facility where he can receive adequate medical care because that boy ain't right. I don't think anybody is going to get off that easily. Even if prison time is limited, there's going to be an ungodly amount of fines from illegally inhabiting a federal office. The damages and fines alone will probably bankrupt a lot of these people, especially since the dumb motherfuckers filmed it. Plus, didn't they make a big show of wanting to use the files and computers in the office to access federal employee information? This hasn't even begun, and these people have made mistakes that could financially destroy themselves. That said, the way the FBI handled this was masterful. They got a lot of grief for 'going easy' on Y'All Qaeda, but this thing was such a honeypot for every freaking lunatic out there and that had to be one of the reasons why this wasn't shut down immediately. It was the anti-Waco: very few deaths, no overreaction, and everything was filmed in some manner. Not only can this be spun, there's footage that negates it all. Tarp Man's death was captured, and shows that most of the people bellowing and lying about the story are quickly shown to be in the wrong. Not only did this whole thing showcase the lessons learned from the '90s, it's shown that all of these militia assholes are really just enormous pussies who playact what they seen on TV. Nothing has done more damage to their brand than this whole incident, and it was fueled by pure arrogance. It's delicious schadenfreude across the board. The Bundys are going to jail, the only one killed was because he was a loving moron, and the rest have made asses out of themselves on a national stage and showed just how lacking and awful they are. You couldn't have gotten a better outcome.
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The Ape of Naples posted:I dunno. They obviously should be punished for what they did and should serve a bunch of time but these bumbling idiots are not what I think of when I think of a supermax prison. It just seems like a waste of space. I feel like these guys are dumb and misguided. But I just can't feel like they're "evil". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKetJB4W00M They are dumb as gently caress sure, but Dylan Roof and James Holmes dumb. Just because they didn't shoot anyone first doesn't mean their evil intent wasn't there. gently caress, in some bizzaro universe right now where 10000 Navy Seals parachuted in and they overthrew the government, they would be having kangaroo courts right now for 'traitors'. loving throw the book at them, teaches others not to be as idiotic in future.
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Minimalist Program posted:Im glad nobody died but I am sad that more people will end their lives in jail. It must be a terrible death. Prison Terminal is on HBO on demand right now and really, really good, dying of old age in prison is pretty horrific even in the best of circumstances. But gently caress Cliven, the guy deserves everything coming to him.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I don't think anybody is going to get off that easily. Even if prison time is limited, there's going to be an ungodly amount of fines from illegally inhabiting a federal office. The damages and fines alone will probably bankrupt a lot of these people, especially since the dumb motherfuckers filmed it. Plus, didn't they make a big show of wanting to use the files and computers in the office to access federal employee information? This hasn't even begun, and these people have made mistakes that could financially destroy themselves. Yea I was initially pissed as hell that they weren't raiding the compound on day one but as things went on and I saw just how crazy stupid these guys were I slowly started to realize what the FBI was doing and it was a good thing. I think the FBI really handled this well
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Cubey posted:I mean we had one of these guys blow up a federal building in the mid-90's. Alan Smithee posted:You know how you people love to go on about how crazy americans are? It's because there's two americas and you can never seem to pin it down. Welcome to the other half. 
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I'm excited for the eventual movie about a fictionalized version of this where the US does rise up and defend the Founding Fathers of Revolution 2.0, mom. Produced by the money marks who made the Atlas Shrugged thrillogy.
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The sale of all Clivens assets will go some way to paying for this shitshow. I hope they tape the auction and show it to the Bundy crew on those tiny, crappy prison TVs.
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happyhippy posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKetJB4W00M the one thing we absolutely should still hang people for is sedition
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:Not only did this whole thing showcase the lessons learned from the '90s, it's shown that all of these militia assholes are really just enormous pussies who playact what they seen on TV. cosplaytriots
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tardwrangler posted:The sale of all Clivens assets will go some way to paying for this shitshow. No doubt. The Bundys are so hosed that, even if they get a minimum sentence, they will have lost their whole livelihoods. I doubt whoever's left in the family will be able to keep the ranch running for the 4-6 years the bare minimum of charges they could get. I find it funny that the thread's attitude to Fry has changed from " kill the doof  " to "  ". I do hope that a federal prosecutor reminds him that Lavoy and the Bundys treated him like poo poo and planned to betray him, that Fry's now in charge of their fate, and that he can get a good deal by going Fed witness vs. the Bundys and, if he cooperates with improving his mental health with a stay in a sanitarium, he can go into witness protection and get a new life.  I'd bet the Bundy brothers are wishing again that they took him with them in their trucks.
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Young Freud posted:I find it funny that the thread's attitude to Fry has changed from " kill the doof Nah, I'm still pretty disappointed that they didn't snipe him on the live stream.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Hearing him break down live over the internet was harrowing and made me feel terrible for wanting him to get shot before its almost as if we are all brothers~~~
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