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Cigar Aficionado posted:CNN reporting that this guy may be Obama's pick: That would be perfect for the Dems if he got unanimous approval just a few years ago. quote:His nomination was reported to the floor of the Senate on May 16, 2013, by a unanimous vote of 18 ayes to 0 nays. A final vote on his nomination took place on May 23, 2013, where he was confirmed 97-0.
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the gop holding up a supreme court nominee makes the election about abortion and gay marriage. obama should nominate someone as soon as humanly possible.
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Feb 13, 2016 23:38
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Does this mean that all wannabe GOP Presidents who're senators get to suspend their campaign to constantly try to block nominations? Nah. McConnell would do that anyway.
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UV_Catastrophe posted:What are the odds that Republicans, even after losing the presidency, might still refuse to confirm any nominee whatsoever? Pretty low, I'd wager.
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Mitt Romney posted:If Scalia died before midnight last night then it was on the 10th anniversary of Cheney hunting incident
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UV_Catastrophe posted:What are the odds that Republicans, even after losing the presidency, might still refuse to confirm any nominee whatsoever? Is there anything stopping them from dragging their feet for 4 years and try to wait for another election?
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the real lovely thing is he stuck around long enough to block Obama's climate change initiative from being enacted. good news is that it now stands better odds of moving forward
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Feb 13, 2016 23:39
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Joementum posted:Fun fact: the precedent in the Senate for not confirming new judges in a Presidential election year is called the Thurmond Rule. They are going to have a harder time citing this because Obama has 11 months left
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Feb 13, 2016 23:40
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Mitt Romney posted:If Scalia died before midnight last night then it was on the 10th anniversary of Cheney hunting incident on the other hand if he died today that means he dropped dead the day before the first Valentine's day for all the gay couples now legally wed across the country.
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spoon daddy posted:They are going to have a harder time citing this because Obama has 11 months left precedent for it just emerged when scalia died
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Feb 13, 2016 23:41
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Business Gorillas posted:Is there anything stopping them from dragging their feet for 4 years and try to wait for another election? The fact that they'll probably lose the Senate if they lose the Presidency.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:CNN reporting that this guy may be Obama's pick: Yeah, he's been on the list for basically Obama's whole Presidency. Here are other possibilities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Supreme_Court_candidates#Names_mentioned Interesting that Claire McCaskill and Kamala Harris are both on the list. I wonder what would happen if a Democratic Senate candidate was nominated in the middle of their campaign. Won't happen, but would be fun to watch.
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I hope Trollbama shows up to start nominating the most outrageous picks for Supreme Court Justice; like not even actual judge nominees
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Feb 13, 2016 23:42
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computer parts posted:The fact that they'll probably lose the Senate if they lose the Presidency. You and Joementum both say this, are there enough swing seats in play for real?
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Hey Joementum, are we in Recess? When the Senate is in recess, a president may make temporary appointments to fill vacancies. Recess appointees hold office only until the end of the next Senate session (less than two years). The Senate must confirm the nominee for them to continue serving; of the two chief justices and six associate justices who have received recess appointments, only Chief Justice John Rutledge was not subsequently confirmed. Pretty sure this means Obama can in fact appoint a Justice without Senate Approval.
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Feb 13, 2016 23:42
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New York Times just updated Justice Antonin Scalia, Who Led a Conservative Renaissance on the Supreme Court, Is Dead at 79
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Feb 13, 2016 23:43
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Joementum posted:Yeah, he's been on the list for basically Obama's whole Presidency. Here are other possibilities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Supreme_Court_candidates#Names_mentioned Christ, not McCaskill. I mean, I know they'd never do it now that they need every seat in the Senate, but she would be a trainwreck as a justice.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:I hope Trollbama shows up to start nominating the most outrageous picks for Supreme Court Justice; like not even actual judge nominees Plenty of precedent with GWB's lovely picks.
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Stultus Maximus posted:You and Joementum both say this, are there enough swing seats in play for real? Everyone who was elected in 2010 is up for grabs now. You might remember that as being a productive Republican class.
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USPOL February: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q
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Hollismason posted:Hey Joementum, are we in Recess? Yes! Congress went into recess on Thursday.
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UrbicaMortis posted:The supreme court is a pretty weird thing. Was it always meant to be this incredibly important political institution? I mean, obviously a supreme court is going to be important but to the extent it now is? From outside the US it seems odd. The German Federal Constitutional Court can even declare amendments to the German constitution null and void if they conflict with the core principles of said constitution. And they don't have any limiting principles like standing or only judging already implemented law, they can even invalidate laws that haven't gone into effect yet.
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I'm pretty sure Obama can appoint a Justice right now in fact because the Senate is in Recess and it would last to end of the next Senate Session.
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Do supreme court justices get state funerals, or is that only for presidents?
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Stultus Maximus posted:You and Joementum both say this, are there enough swing seats in play for real? The whole Tea Party wave is up for re-election, so the Republicans have to defend seats in Illinois and Pennsylvania. You can check out the full list in the Senate election thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3680204
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Joementum posted:Yes! Congress went into recess on Thursday. Oh Glorious loving day. When do they reconvene?
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The best news about this is that ultimately it's going to help democrats on election day.
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Feb 13, 2016 23:46
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Joementum posted:Yes! Congress went into recess on Thursday. So is McConnell in the air back to DC yet? I mean it has to be a race now, the white house to put an appointee in, the senate to reopen
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Joementum posted:Yeah, he's been on the list for basically Obama's whole Presidency. Here are other possibilities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Supreme_Court_candidates#Names_mentioned Why on earth is McCaskill being considered for the court?
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I wonder if this means we might see a billion+ injected into the Senate races this year.
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Hollismason posted:I'm pretty sure Obama can appoint a Justice right now in fact because the Senate is in Recess and it would last to end of the next Senate Session.
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Cigar Aficionado posted:The best news about this is that ultimately it's going to help democrats on election day. Man, if you don't think this is going to kick the afterburners on the GOP's GOTV drive I don't know what to tell you. At best it is a wash
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Joementum posted:The whole Tea Party wave is up for re-election, so the Republicans have to defend seats in Illinois and Pennsylvania. You can check out the full list in the Senate election thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3680204 I swear to god, if the Dems gently caress up Illinois again
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Fried Chicken posted:Man, if you don't think this is going to kick the afterburners on the GOP's GOTV drive I don't know what to tell you. At best it is a wash The GOP can only turnout so many people though. Romney's turnout in 2012 was great but it was still 332 EV for Obama. The dem ceiling on turnout is much higher.
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Northjayhawk posted:There is not a chance in hell the Senate lets Obama pick Scalia's replacement unless he inexplicably nominates a conservative judge. This is the exact opposite of my read on it. The obvious obstructionism leaps into permanently delaying a lot of the cases they are seriously concerned with furthering their agenda. Not to mention the horrible optics with anyone even mildly politically aware going into the election. Cigar Aficionado posted:The best news about this is that ultimately it's going to help democrats on election day. This this is!
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FlamingLiberal posted:So until the next Congress? It's a maximum appointment of 2 years , so like if he appointed him now it'd be at the end of the NEXT session so like next year. I think I am right on that Joementum can confirm.
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Mitt Romney posted:The GOP can only turnout so many people though. Romney's turnout in 2012 was great but it was still 332 EV for Obama. Weird of you to talk in third person
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What's the eta on McConnell announcing they will not bring up a SC nominee for consideration this year? Less than a couple hours?
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Fried Chicken posted:Man, if you don't think this is going to kick the afterburners on the GOP's GOTV drive I don't know what to tell you. At best it is a wash There are more Democrats than Republicans, and there are more casual/seldom voting democrats than conservatives. And if Republicans try to run out the clock, they look like obstructionist nongoverning assholes in as high profile a light as possible leading into the election.
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