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Imagine your career ending with this public bitterness. Oh well I'm sure her fabulous wealth will buffer her feelings.
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xPanda posted:Am I forgetting something, or is Steve Ciobo's only action of note that he threatened an innocent australian to deportation on live TV? If you buy into the media narrative he's part of the 'new breed' here to revitalise the Liberal party.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 01:13 |
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open24hours posted:If you buy into the media narrative he's part of the 'new breed' here to revitalise the Liberal party. Looking at the ABC's "highlights" from last night's QandA, his answers were all of the form "this is something and isn't something", so the new breed doesn't seem like much of an improvement. Also he thinks that calling Alan Jones senile has something to do with the racial discrimination act?
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 01:18 |
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Aha the sensational Steve Ciobo - quote:In mid-2013, Ciobo used the ABC's Lateline program in a desperate attempt for national recognition. During a televised debate with Labor backbencher Nick Champion, Ciobo implied that Prime Minister Julia Gillard's throat should be slit.[37] I think he's done a few more notable terrible things but I admit it is hard to keep up with the galloping buffoons. And now to the tune of classic Oz Rocker 'the Nips are Getting Bigger'. Ohh ohh the poo poo is getting deeper. Ohh yeah it's getting deeper! http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-15/mark-dreyfus-refers-stuart-robert-china-trip-to-afp/7167086 quote:Shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus has referred Stuart Robert's China trip to the Australian Federal Police, asking them to launch an investigation into whether the former minister intended to benefit from the visit. Like Cunneen and Co. this will be fascinating to watch. WITHOUT PREJUDICE On the face of the facts as known to the public, guys are guilty as gently caress and should do real jail time. But wait there's more! Arsetralian I click so you don't have to! http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...7af2857cf45780b quote:Stuart Robert’s $1600 bill despite gold mine link THE AUSTRALIAN FEBRUARY 16, 2016 12:00AM Hedley Thomas National Chief Correspondent Brisbane Sack MT promises and gas LNP Party room.™
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Ministers should be forced to put all investments in blind trusts when taking office and then be executed when leaving office.
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Glad I missed Q&A: http://www.theguardian.com/australi...ers?CMP=soc_567 quote:Asked by host Tony Jones if there was an “end in sight” for detainees, new trade minister Steven Ciobo said the government “give people options to resettle in a third country” Some crazy Canadian right-wing guy dropped the economic migrant line but then apparently criticized offshore detention: quote:Canadian author Mark Steyn, after saying he would “play the token rightwing madman”, upbraided the government for failing to “own the problem” of detention centres or honour its responsibility to deal “expeditiously” with refugee claims.
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Cunneen has been effectively undermined by ICAC leaking the tapes that they had her on corruption in the first place with her explicitly saying she told her sons girlfriend to fake chest pains to avoid a breath tyest because she'd been drinking. While the high court found the actions didn't constitute corruption in the true sense governed by the legislation (the dissent notwithstanding) the tapes don't pass the sniff test and pretty much Cunneen is trying to find a way to unring the bell. I will say it's been an open secret that the ICAC had Cunneen on tape because they would never ever have stuck their neck this far out without something this ironclad, so them being released is a massive "gently caress you" to Cunneen. quote:Lawyers for Crown prosecutor Margaret Cunneen want members of a parliamentary inquiry and corruption chief Megan Latham to give written guarantees they did not leak controversial transcripts of Australian Crime Commission phone taps involving her to Fairfax Media and other news outlets.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 01:39 |
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A year after the greyhound live baiting scandal shocked the nation, some of the 'life bans' handed out by the industry have been reduced to as little as two to five years.
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Some crazy Canadian right-wing guy dropped the economic migrant line but then apparently criticized offshore detention: That dude also interjected on the "we need a new stolen genetation" thing with "I don't know anything about indiginous history, but brave ideas like that are why freedom of speech is so important" That's how blatantly lovely detention policy is
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 02:30 |
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without freeze peach brave ideas go uncelebrated such as 'actually, genocide is good'
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:12 |
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What's more likely to be suppressed, the idea that genocide is good or that genocide is bad?
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:14 |
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Honestly the best way to get to zero road deaths is to imprison anyone who drives a car. We've got to make it so nobody wants to drive cars in order to save lives. Or, if you see someone driving a car, drag that car back to their house and cut the fuel line. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that any death by car is unnacceptable and we must send a strong message.
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open24hours posted:What's more likely to be suppressed, the idea that genocide is good or that genocide is bad? Only if it's multiculturalism.
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redweird posted:Honestly the best way to get to zero road deaths is to imprison anyone who drives a car. We've got to make it so nobody wants to drive cars in order to save lives. Or, if you see someone driving a car, drag that car back to their house and cut the fuel line. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that any death by car is unnacceptable and we must send a strong message. More people die on the road than they do in the ocean. Maybe we should mull over culling cars instead of sharks?
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redweird posted:Honestly the best way to get to zero road deaths is to imprison anyone who drives a car. We've got to make it so nobody wants to drive cars in order to save lives. Or, if you see someone driving a car, drag that car back to their house and cut the fuel line. I don't think I'm alone in thinking that any death by car is unnacceptable and we must send a strong message. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_Australia_by_year http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/thebordercrossingobservatory/publications/australian-border-deaths-database/ We don't care as much about our own road deaths as we do about mere foreign economic migrant scum.
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 03:38 |
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An article published by a Liberal Party-aligned think tank that advocates killing off the poorest 20 per cent of Australians as a way to get the budget back on track has been described as a ''disgraceful rant'' by Treasurer Wayne Swan. A ''modest cull of the enormously poor'' has been suggested by right-wing business lobbyist Toby Ralph in a tongue-in-cheek opinion piece written in reaction to the federal government's attack on the ''fabulously wealthy'' through superannuation taxes. "A modest cull would strike at the root of our fiscal dilemma." ''In contrast to the fabulously rich, the enormously poor make little useful contribution to society,'' wrote Mr Ralph, a long-time Liberal Party campaign strategist. ''They consume more than they contribute, putting tremendous strain on the national budget. ''A modest cull would strike at the root of our fiscal dilemma. If the least productive 20 per cent of citizens were decommissioned it would directly release a recurrent $25 billion, which would almost cover overspending by the Gillard government between now and September 14th, assuming Mr Swan maintains his long-term average rate of profligacy. ''This bold initiative would rid us of indolent students, hapless single mums, lower-order drug dealers, social workers, performance artists, Greenpeace supporters and the remaining processing personnel in our collapsing yet heavily subsidised manufacturing industries.'' Mr Ralph's bloody prescription for national economic recovery was written strictly as satire, he told Fairfax Media, saying ''some people want to be offended''. The article ends with a suggestion that the government could recoup the $900 million it will gouge from the rich in super taxes by simply spending within its means for six days - but ''that's clearly just daft'', he wrote. That has not stopped critics, including Mr Swan, questioning the wisdom of Menzies House publishing the article. Menzies House was founded by Liberal senator Cory Bernardi, recently sent to the backbench over his comments on same-sex marriage leading to legalised bestiality. Menzies House stemmed from Senator Bernardi's Conservative Leadership Foundation but he has since insisted he has no active role or editorial influence over it. Chris Browne, a long-time employee of Senator Bernardi, resigned as editor-in-chief of Menzies House after an anonymous article was posted describing Joe Hockey as incompetent and a stain on the Coalition's reputation as a good economic manager. Mr Browne was replaced by Tim Andrews, executive director of the Australian Taxpayers' Alliance and a former vice-president of the NSW Young Liberals. Mr Andrews said of the article: ''It's a satire in the tradition of Jonathan Swift's 'A Modest Proposal' and, as such, I do not see any cause for persons to be offended.'' The 1729 essay suggested the impoverished Irish could ease their economic troubles by selling their children as food for the rich. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owI7DOeO_yg
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Solemn Sloth posted:More people die on the road than they do in the ocean. Maybe we should mull over culling cars instead of sharks? Or lock them up in parks so we can go and view them. if you can't see me I can't see you
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Anidav why are you posting poo poo that happened in 2013?
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 04:13 |
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Because nothing has changed
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Nothing has ever changed. In our time did a pretty good thing on Jonathan Swift http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00h3650 open24hours fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Feb 16, 2016 |
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Liberals publishing their deepest darkest thoughts on poor people and then claiming its satire will never stop being a bookmark into the mind of a Tory.
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The Peccadillo posted:That dude also interjected on the "we need a new stolen genetation" thing with "I don't know anything about indiginous history, but brave ideas like that are why freedom of speech is so important" Catallaxy Q&A Trip Report: The catallaxy crowd have an "interruption bingo" to count how many times lefties interrupt rightys to Stop Them Saying Righty Things (the winner had 55). We have a new category of conservative too, there's Conservative and Malcolm Conservative. Ciobo is a Malcolm Conservative. They were very much for Steyn: quote:Steyn’s class is wasted on this hive of scum. but if you think any of his comments gave them pause, think again. quote:Steyn was probably not aware that those reffos are rorting the system and hanging out in camps for eternity by using the legal system to prevent us loving them off. This was a more interesting comment: quote:Ciobo accidentally says “In a democracy you gotta limit the choices of the people” Oh there's more jargon: Ciobo is a LINO = Liberal In Name Only. They're really sorting out whats what over there. I'll spare you all Sinclair Davidson's ridiculous graphs trying to prove that negative gearing is good for low and middle income earners and not "the rich". It's a laugh though. Remember, they're libertarian AND centre-right
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# ? Feb 16, 2016 05:07 |
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So do they admit that they ripped off LINO wholesale from the yanks with RINOs (Republican In Name Only)? Re: helmet chat, better city planning is definitely needed. I look at the five minute car ride I have to work, and when walking it becomes a 20 minute + endeavour because I can't loving make it in a straight line. Plus the lack of sidewalks makes me worry for when my daughter is old enough to start riding a bike - the sidewalks end randomly and don't always have a corresponding start on the opposite side of the road. Also no bike lanes.
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ewe2 posted:Catallaxy Q&A Trip Report: what do you call a party room of malcolm conservatives
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Re: helmet chat Also re: helmest chat, I have a question for cyclists. Once bicycle infrastructure has been built, why do so many cyclists still choose to ride on the street? (Maybe this is a Perth thing only).
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ewe2 posted:Catallaxy Q&A Trip Report:
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Malcolmtents
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MonoAus posted:Also re: helmest chat, I have a question for cyclists. Once bicycle infrastructure has been built, why do so many cyclists still choose to ride on the street? (Maybe this is a Perth thing only). Because the bicycle infrastructure isn't very good? Canberra has an excellent network of bike paths for recreational cycling, but they're much too circuitous if you're riding for transport.
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quote:http://www.canberratimes.com.au/nsw/bob-carr-calls-for-australian-immigration-to-be-cut-by-onethird-20160216-gmv37n.html
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I knew it was the immigants! Even when it was the bears i knew it was them!
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MonoAus posted:Also re: helmest chat, I have a question for cyclists. Once bicycle infrastructure has been built, why do so many cyclists still choose to ride on the street? (Maybe this is a Perth thing only). because they're loving assholes
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/what-positive-gear#.jbvqW2yWzG Buzzfeed doing better reporting than the AFR, even if they are just facebook stalking:
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MonoAus posted:Also re: helmest chat, I have a question for cyclists. Once bicycle infrastructure has been built, why do so many cyclists still choose to ride on the street? (Maybe this is a Perth thing only). open24hours posted:Because the bicycle infrastructure isn't very good? Canberra has an excellent network of bike paths for recreational cycling, but they're much too circuitous if you're riding for transport. Exactly, cars get freeways and overpasses so they can go from point a to point b in the shortest time possible, cyclists and buses get circuitous routes that make their travel time even longer. I have to catch a bus to training in town on Thursday and Friday and since my suburb doesn't connect to an OBahn route it's going to take soooo long
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I was riding on the purpose built bike track that runs along side the M7 in Sydney and I looked down to see some tosser riding on the road itself. The bike track is huge - like 40km. Dunno why he was special enough to be there.
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Back to ACL chat, if they can't have a discussion without violating, for example, the NSW Anti-Discrimination Act s49ZT, then they probably shouldn't be entering into the debate seriously anyway. It states: 49ZT Homosexual vilification unlawful (1) It is unlawful for a person, by a public act, to incite hatred towards, serious contempt for, or severe ridicule of, a person or group of persons on the ground of the homosexuality of the person or members of the group. (2) Nothing in this section renders unlawful: (a) a fair report of a public act referred to in subsection (1), or (b) a communication or the distribution or dissemination of any matter on an occasion that would be subject to a defence of absolute privilege (whether under the Defamation Act 2005 or otherwise) in proceedings for defamation, or (c) a public act, done reasonably and in good faith, for academic, artistic, religious instruction, scientific or research purposes or for other purposes in the public interest, including discussion or debate about and expositions of any act or matter. Note the references to "good faith" and "reasonably". Personally I don't see that as a "ridiculously low threshold" or whatever the ACL were using as their reasoning. Leave the legislation alone and let people have a reasoned discussion. As I said before, I expect the plebiscite to pass. Whether the politicians are willing to honor that is another question.
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I only ask because I often see cyclists on the road riding parallel to purpose built bike paths. Not really an attack, was just wondering why.
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jonathan swift is my spirit guide
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MonoAus posted:I only ask because I often see cyclists on the road riding parallel to purpose built bike paths. Not really an attack, was just wondering why. In breaking news, people of all stripes are idiots sometimes.
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MonoAus posted:I only ask because I often see cyclists on the road riding parallel to purpose built bike paths. Not really an attack, was just wondering why. I cant speak for everyone else, but on my ride to work most of the bike lanes are dual-purpose bike lane/street parking. I consider it less dangerous to just ride in the car lane than weaving in and out of the bike lane into the car lane and back every time I need to avoid a parked car.
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open24hours posted:Because the bicycle infrastructure isn't very good? Canberra has an excellent network of bike paths for recreational cycling, but they're much too circuitous if you're riding for transport. I don't know, I often see cyclists on the road over Commonwealth Avenue Bridge, even though there is a path both sides of the bridge and signage directs cyclists to use the path across the bridge. Sure, most cyclists use the path, but a noticeable minority don't.
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