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Damo
Nov 8, 2002

The second-generation Pontiac Sunbird, introduced by the automaker for the 1982 model year as the J2000, was built to be an inexpensive and fuel-efficient front-wheel-drive commuter car capable of seating five.

Offensive Clock
Anyone else get a pretty much nothing but female soldiers at the start?

It's pretty awesome, my A-Team is a bunch of hard rear end scarred women. I'm enjoying it.

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quad2408
Aug 1, 2009
If I have a mission to secure a VIP who is not a Scientist or Engineer, what do I lose if I just kill them?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

quad2408 posted:

If I have a mission to secure a VIP who is not a Scientist or Engineer, what do I lose if I just kill them?

Intel.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Is it just me, or is Bradford a little cross-eyed?

Radio
Jul 25, 2003

Oh no, trash bear!
For not having second wave options, there is a lot of replay value between randomized continent bonus, Advanced Warfare Center, and the general flexibility you have when picking from multiple mission sites. It's no longer "go here or lose an entire continent and probably the game"; instead you choose which two body parts you want to get punched in.

oswald ownenstein
Jan 30, 2011

KING FAGGOT OF THE SHITPOST KINGDOM

Staltran posted:

Why did Beagle start a new campaign? Also, why did Gatecrasher take him 58 turns?

His last campaign was started with like 3-4 maybe more missions of pre-release difficulty - ie. 8 hp sectoids instead of 10, stuff like that, so he wants to take on the challenge of post nerf and maybe use some mods

Btw, I can't express enough how much I love the bleed out timers mod. Best quote I saw on the review comments was "way to figure out how to make the game easier without making the game easier"

I wanted to install the critical chance mod that reverts it to EU/EWs system but thought better of it when I realized it would just make the aliens basically never crit ever.

And anyone else wish scientists had a little more depth to them like engineers do?

oswald ownenstein fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Feb 16, 2016

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
In my attempt at the Exquisite Timing achievement (beat the game by July 1), it was June 29th and I had one day to go on the Avatar Autopsy research project. I was actually just about ready to write up my strategy for you guys once it finished. While I was passing the last few hours until the research finished, one last council mission popped up—pretty sweet, right? I was getting a shitload of free intel right before I'd spend it all on the penultimate mission.

So I complete the VIP capture mission, return to the Avenger… and find that a bug has reset the progress on the Avatar Autopsy. Now it'll finish on July 4th. gently caress that poo poo right to hell.


e: givetech AutopsyAdventPsiWitch

Zoran fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Feb 16, 2016

Trast
Oct 20, 2010

Three games, thousands of playthroughs. 90% of the players don't know I exist. Still a redhead saving the galaxy with a [Right Hook].

:edi:

Fintilgin posted:

Barack Obama's shotgun was named "Socialism", after he died I passed it to Kim Jong Il.

I'm probably going to hell for this but your post just made me think of naming a gun "Black Powder Matters."

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

Trast posted:

I would really like labs to be worthwhile. The workshops have a value in the gremlins but nothing so nice for the labs. How about letting labs give your a scanning bonus or further bonus on soldiers healing? A constant stipend of intel from a lab would be nice too.

There really ought to be a repeatable research option that gives you a small amount of intel. Something like "ADVENT Network Analysis", where your eggheads knuckle down and analyze communication intercepts. That way, you could A. have a reliable if inefficient way to get intel in an emergency, and B. give your scientists something to do once you've unlocked everything.

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Trast posted:

I'm probably going to hell for this but your post just made me think of naming a gun "Black Powder Matters."

On that note, the maximum length of a gun name is way too drat short.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Vengarr posted:

There really ought to be a repeatable research option that gives you a small amount of intel. Something like "ADVENT Network Analysis", where your eggheads knuckle down and analyze communication intercepts. That way, you could A. have a reliable if inefficient way to get intel in an emergency, and B. give your scientists something to do once you've unlocked everything.

They're limited by loot, but that's what the ADVENT Datapad and ADVENT Data Cache techs do.

Segmentation Fault
Jun 7, 2012

Fintilgin posted:

Barack Obama's shotgun was named "Socialism", after he died I passed it to Kim Jong Il.

B-Rock "Superallah" Obama's weapon is "The Islamic Shock"

Vengarr
Jun 17, 2010

Smashed before noon

oswald ownenstein posted:

And anyone else wish scientists had a little more depth to them like engineers do?

I'd like to see a mod that adds Scientist slots to most buildings.

Zoran posted:

They're limited by loot, but that's what the ADVENT Datapad and ADVENT Data Cache techs do.

No poo poo, but they're...limited by loot. And not all that common. They're not infinitely repeatable.

Something like a 10-15 day research project unmodified that gives you 20-30ish intel would be good. That way, with lots of scientists (end-game) it'd only be 7ish days, and it would still make datapads attractive for their greater gains. It's just annoying to have the labs completely idle.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
in addition to other ini tweaks, bumping the games CPU priority had a huge impact.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Intel is limited probably because its an unlimited resource via hq

oswald ownenstein
Jan 30, 2011

KING FAGGOT OF THE SHITPOST KINGDOM

ShineDog posted:

in addition to other ini tweaks, bumping the games CPU priority had a huge impact.

Still run Witcher 3 on 8k where I can see the pores and veins and pubes in full 3d color and Hair FX ++ @ 60 fps while this game runs 30-40 with medium settings

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

ShineDog posted:

in addition to other ini tweaks, bumping the games CPU priority had a huge impact.

How and in what way

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe

RBA Starblade posted:

I went with Destiny exotic weapons for my guns. My snipers have Icebreaker, No Land Beyond, and Black Spindle. My ranger has Invective. My specialists have Red Death, Suros Regime, and my Psi-Op has Bad Juju. I named my cannons Answerer and Retaliator though because I'm a nerd but I could have gone with Thunderlord and Super Good Advice.

Invective and Retaliator are pretty nice, I might take those.

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

My specialists always seem to be a rank higher at equal missions/kills to my other troops. Do they level up faster?

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Holy loving poo poo the last room of the last mission was something else. My entire team of Colonels was wiped out on the little bridge leading to the room, and I had to do the entire room with just my Commander Avatar and whatever he could mind control. No idea how the gently caress I scraped through. It came down to guessing where the last Avatar had teleported to and getting a lucky shot with a Null Beam or whatever it's called. Great, great game.

That room also destroyed my otherwise good PC, and the game crashed to desktop when three Gatekeepers exploded at once.

Also I heard that the ending massively hinted at the next game/expansion. Was the purple pulsing on the bottom of the ocean meant to be that? If so, what's that meant to mean? Terror From The Deep?

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

toasterwarrior posted:

Steady Hands is always the better choice, IMO. Even if you're running your Gunslinger up close, you should never find yourself Hunkering Down because dead/stunned enemies are a better defense.
One exception: My gunslinger got the "automatically hunker down if you didn't attack" ability from AWC, so I was like "well fuckin' okay then" and gave her Aim.

So I built a Wraith suit for my sniper, and how exactly do you control grappling? If I activate it it shows me a bunch of squares in orange, but if there's a way to pick between those squares I can't find it. Are you supposed to be locked into the one square it auto-selects for you? Also, it apparently doesn't have the same HEY IDIOT THIS WILL BREAK CONCEALMENT warning that movement does, which I learned when I grappled up and went through a window the game didn't tell me was there.

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

CapnAndy posted:

One exception: My gunslinger got the "automatically hunker down if you didn't attack" ability from AWC, so I was like "well fuckin' okay then" and gave her Aim.

So I built a Wraith suit for my sniper, and how exactly do you control grappling? If I activate it it shows me a bunch of squares in orange, but if there's a way to pick between those squares I can't find it. Are you supposed to be locked into the one square it auto-selects for you? Also, it apparently doesn't have the same HEY IDIOT THIS WILL BREAK CONCEALMENT warning that movement does, which I learned when I grappled up and went through a window the game didn't tell me was there.

It can be a bit finnicky but simply mousing over the other tiles should move the line around. A reload should fix it being completely stuck.

Captain Gordon
Jul 22, 2004

:10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux::10bux:
Any tips and tricks to beating legendary? I am getting my poo poo kicked in pretty hard.

I am using the pro EU strats of hunkering and overwatch trapping, but I am having a hard time by either pulling to many pods or underestimating the advent trooper's mobility. The biggest offender so far is flanking, as moving to flank an enemy with a ranger very often results in another pod's activation, which usually means game over.

I am 60+ games deep and have yet to get out of month 3. I got to magnetic weapons exactly once due to 50% off on tech hack, but had no supplies to build them. I usually rush the GTC first and AWC second, am I doing this wrong?

Also, I am having a horrible time with "hack x" missions due to absurd pod placements. The worst thing so far are the stun lancers, those fuckers never miss and always KO my dudes on a crit. My squad usually doesn't have enough firepower to mow both lancers down, especially because my dudes very frequently miss 80% shots. I am considering a 4 grenadier squad but I have yet to have that happen.

I still cannot decide if overwatching and ambushing is better out of concealment, or if taking a shot and then moving in response to the pod scattering is better. Which one do you folks prefer?

Is there something fundamental that I am missing? In terms of promotions, phantom rangers seem like a godsend but I haven't seen anything overwhelming on the first 2 levels in other classes. Long Watch is ok I guess and the specialist upgrades kind of suck so far.

Captain Gordon fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Feb 17, 2016

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Does anyone know if the Avatar Project is inspired by this crazy poo poo? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2045_Initiative

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Trast posted:

I would really like labs to be worthwhile. The workshops have a value in the gremlins but nothing so nice for the labs. How about letting labs give your a scanning bonus or further bonus on soldiers healing? A constant stipend of intel from a lab would be nice too.

Yeah passive intel generation would be great.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Steve2911 posted:

Also I heard that the ending massively hinted at the next game/expansion. Was the purple pulsing on the bottom of the ocean meant to be that? If so, what's that meant to mean? Terror From The Deep?

XCOM 3: Pacific Rim

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Captain Gordon posted:

Also, I am having a horrible time with "hack x" missions due to absurd pod placements. The worst thing so far are the stun lancers, those fuckers never miss and always KO my dudes on a crit. My squad usually doesn't have enough firepower to mow both lancers down, especially because my dudes very frequently miss 80% shots. I am considering a 4 grenadier squad but I have yet to have that happen.

Hacking missions are best accomplished with a grenade (or two) to blow up walls and having the specialist remote hack it with the gremlin. Lancers are severely hampered by flashbangs

Away all Goats fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Feb 16, 2016

Insert name here
Nov 10, 2009

Oh.
Oh Dear.
:ohdear:

Kenshin posted:

Needle grenades maybe. It might be easier to simply roll hits against enemies in cover instead.
Isn't the flashbang in this game limited by LoS? Maybe take a peek at that to see if you can do the same for the Needle Grenade.

Vib Rib posted:

Also which of the 2-3 "use any armor/weapon visuals" mods is the one to go with?
And I guess as long as I'm asking I'd like to know if anyone's tried this one. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=622266966

Basically I'm just hoping to hear some endorsements of what's safe.
For weapons the only thing I can really recommend is my own mod here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=621229846
I don't know if there are any other mods that allow you to "pick" your weapon model and, if they exist, if they do it in a more elegant way than this.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Morzhovyye
Mar 2, 2013

Jesus christ my Avenger crash landed in a loving cardboard forest. When I get a rookie to throw a 3x3 standard hand grenade at a stump near a creek, five different trees implode a full 12 tiles away.

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

Oh god I have so many mods

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
So is there any reason to not roll with full plasma grenades and bluescreen ammo in the endgame? They just seem so strong compared to literally anything else I could pack except a mimic beacon or two.

Also the worst that can happen if I flat-out skip a retaliation mission is losing that country and having to get it back right? No permanent downside?

Pierson fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Feb 17, 2016

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

Pierson posted:

So is there any reason to not roll with full plasma grenades and bluescreen ammo in the endgame? They just seem so strong compared to literally anything else I could pack except a mimic beacon or two.

Also the worst that can happen if I flat-out skip a retaliation mission is losing that country and having to get it back right? No permanent downside?

An ap round gunslinger can oneshot a sectopod

A burning round gunslinger can apply burning on literally everyone in visual range and get repeater procs

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)
Where do you report bugs? I just had two rookies complete psi training while the Avenger was moving to a mission. When we arrived they were at 4 days remaining.

**Actually, I got a -50% scan time bonus and it might only have procced once I started scanning something.

Shoenin
May 29, 2013

Everynight I wake up Screaming.
(and beating the dragon)
Fun fact, if debris falls on the Communications device you're supposed to protect, It despawns and it counts as being destroyed.

Thats bullshit Fraxis.

Sykic
Feb 9, 2004

Resist! Humanity demands it! Resist!
If anyone's playing on (preferably unmodded) Legend difficulty right now, could you do me a favour and post how much it costs (in supplies, elerium, etc) to build a facility upgrade. Any facility, any upgrade, it doesn't matter which. I'm starting to think my game is broken and this might help.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Fighting an Andromedon for the first time was a bad time to learn Return Fire is bugged and only occasionally feels like shooting back!

e: I also learned Mind Controlled Mutons can't counterattack. Why? gently caress you!

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Shoenin posted:

Fun fact, if debris falls on the Communications device you're supposed to protect, It despawns and it counts as being destroyed.

Thats bullshit Fraxis.

I accidentally shredded the console I was supposed to hack one mission, bit the game was gracious enough to let me hack the empty square it was in instead.

DMW45
Oct 29, 2011

Come into my parlor~
Said the spider to the fly~

ZenVulgarity posted:

An ap round gunslinger can oneshot a sectopod

A burning round gunslinger can apply burning on literally everyone in visual range and get repeater procs

You can't get repeater procs on the pistol, though?

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Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007

Insert name here posted:

Isn't the flashbang in this game limited by LoS? Maybe take a peek at that to see if you can do the same for the Needle Grenade.
Hah, you're right.

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